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IPL 6 is Cancelled - Official Statement - Page 8

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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 05 2013 02:12 GMT
#141
Riot makes enough $ to support the tournaments themselves. I don't think Tencents needs to put even ten cents in.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
March 05 2013 02:13 GMT
#142
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


Tencent is the 3rd largest internet company in the world behind Google and Amazon, not the 3rd overall. They also own Epic Games, by the way.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 05 2013 02:13 GMT
#143
I hope we hear what will happen with IPTL finals soon.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 05 2013 02:13 GMT
#144
On March 05 2013 11:13 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


Tencent is the 3rd largest internet company in the world behind Google and Amazon, not the 3rd overall. They also own Epic Games, by the way.


Correct. The third biggest company in the world is Walmart.
ihOpe
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
192 Posts
March 05 2013 02:15 GMT
#145
On March 05 2013 11:13 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 11:13 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


Tencent is the 3rd largest internet company in the world behind Google and Amazon, not the 3rd overall. They also own Epic Games, by the way.


Correct. The third biggest company in the world is Walmart.

haha i looked it up too :D

Also38billion market cap does not come close to the big car makers Daimler and volkswagen in germany. Largest companies in the world ar the oil lords :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 05 2013 02:16 GMT
#146
I guess after those jabs ipl made about hots open bracket at mlg, mlg gets to have the last laugh
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#147
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


I remember Destiny bringing up this issue ages ago. The e-sports scene for other games is heavily, heavily subsized by the actual publishers of those games. It's a marketing expense that extends the long-tail of their gaming sales and bolsters the value of their IP.

Blizzard has been terrible at growing their scene. They were/are so arrogant based on WoW's and Broodwar's success, they thought simply making a great game would guarantee it would have a long shelf life. Even though they announced two expansions, it doesn't seem like they saw the development of e-sports as an ongoing, active investment.
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
March 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#148
I am genuinely sad about this. IPL events were great. Even when you had the internet issues, that random phone camera stream was terrific and entertaining.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 05 2013 02:18 GMT
#149
sad
i want more Kevin Knocke live events
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#150
Wasn't IPL going to have an $8000 showmatch? Is that still going on or what (I think it was between Byun and someone)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#151
On March 05 2013 11:13 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


Tencent is the 3rd largest internet company in the world behind Google and Amazon, not the 3rd overall. They also own Epic Games, by the way.


Yah, that's what I meant. Forgot to specify it =(
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
March 05 2013 02:20 GMT
#152
thats so damn sad : ( I loved having IPL events..
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Redfish
Profile Joined April 2010
United States142 Posts
March 05 2013 02:21 GMT
#153
Handled incredibly unprofessionally by Ziff Davis - if this was a decision that was going to be made it should have been done a whole lot sooner, because they had to know how many people in the eSports scene, teams and players and fans alike, they were screwing over with having to eat plane tickets and other costs. I'll still go to Vegas because I can still have a good time there, but it puts a huge damper on the trip.

As far as the whole NA SC2 scene goes, I think this spells a lot of trouble. I've been to two live tournaments, IPL3 and MLG Providence 2011. What I remember from IPL3 was amazing venues, a great atmosphere (sitting three feet from Stephano and Thorzain watching them dork around with offraces in the practice room), a great stage, comfortable seats for everyone.

What I remember from MLG was a super crowded huge room, jostling for space on a concrete floor to sit on for hours at a time (people held seats for hours since they were so precious), very restrictive areas, inability to bring concessions inside the convention hall, and poor service at the shop. It was still enjoyable Starcraft but it was much less relaxing to be a spectator there.

Hopefully the tournament scene continues to grow and be more competitive, but I have my doubts, and after the way this was handled, ZD/IGN is going to have to work a lot harder to get my money again.
Peacecrafts
Profile Joined October 2012
45 Posts
March 05 2013 02:22 GMT
#154
On March 05 2013 11:19 nomyx wrote:
Wasn't IPL going to have an $8000 showmatch? Is that still going on or what (I think it was between Byun and someone)


go back a page(page 7)

On March 05 2013 11:05 IGNProLeague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:45 Fionn wrote:
Is Polt vs. Hyun still on for $8,000 at SXSW?


Yes, our friends at Alienware will be hosting our event with us at SXSW. All our staff is already there and setting up the production assets we had prepared for IPL6. Our goal was to match the mark GOM made at IPL5. We are putting our all into this event, and please tune in for the Ultimate Fight Club.

p.s. my man Paul made this bittersweet promo:


p.p.s. my man Paul wrote Austin Convention Center when it should be Palmer Events Center.

Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 05 2013 02:22 GMT
#155
Sundance is poppin champagne bottles right now. haha
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 02:28:17
March 05 2013 02:26 GMT
#156
On March 05 2013 11:17 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:19 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:18 Noocta wrote:
Thank you IPL.
The ref to Riot LCS somewhat make me bitter. Riot and their Chinese overminds are creating a bubble from whom I fear the explosion.


I don't get it. What do you mean?


Riot is owned by the 3rd richest compagny in the world, Tengcent or something.
That's where the money come from for big things like the LCS, which is basically Riot setting up their own teamhouses for everyone, their own studio, their own leagues, and bringing all the teams at one place, and everything is paid by Riot.

Just try to compete against that...


I remember Destiny bringing up this issue ages ago. The e-sports scene for other games is heavily, heavily subsized by the actual publishers of those games. It's a marketing expense that extends the long-tail of their gaming sales and bolsters the value of their IP.

Blizzard has been terrible at growing their scene. They were/are so arrogant based on WoW's and Broodwar's success, they thought simply making a great game would guarantee it would have a long shelf life. Even though they announced two expansions, it doesn't seem like they saw the development of e-sports as an ongoing, active investment.


I am not sure a direct comparison can be made due to the differences in the business model. The revenue from games like SC2 is from game (box/download) sales while LoL is free but with things like champs and skins.

So I think the pro scene has different affects on the revenue. For example, BW was still going strong as a e-sports until 2011 in Korea. But do you think Blizzard made a lot of BW sales in 2011? But for something like LoL, as long as pros are using new champs, they can always generate revenue.

Again, I am not saying which way is better. They are just different. Like someone pointed out above, things like the LCS are part of the marketing budget for LoL. And marketing will always be about ROI. The Riot game payment model simply generates more revenue from hosting tournaments in the pro scene compare to Blizzard games.
modesttoss
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
March 05 2013 02:29 GMT
#157
Luckily I was able to get my hotel refunded and my flight credited as soon as the rumors started flying. Surely hope others can have the same done for them. Was extremely excited to go back to Vegas for IPL6 after having attended IPL5 as my first live event last year. Sucks how this all ended though. :/
MF_Icy
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden99 Posts
March 05 2013 02:29 GMT
#158
I am personally not too surprised by this; I don't want to say I am glad, but having a tournament with any WoL component (assuming they would have had a segregated WoL/HotS tournament) way past HotS release would really have messed with their numbers/success. Unfortunate, but I understand their reasoning and hope they can continue surviving in the space.

It has been a long time (I believe) since a SC2 tournament was cancelled; really annoying and frustrating for those who planned to go. I guess that is the cost of cancellation.
"Playing Bloons is not going to make you a pro gamer." -pannloob
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
March 05 2013 02:32 GMT
#159
Yep IGN as a website has gotten rid of like half it's expenditure since being sold.

Guess them publishers don't pay like they used to.
blastyblast21
Profile Joined January 2013
United States61 Posts
March 05 2013 02:33 GMT
#160
this is really sad that gaming tournament companies in north america are closing down. I hope you guys find a place soon I really loved your team leagues it was really fun. GL in the future ipl
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