On March 05 2013 12:03 holy_war wrote: Huh? They're not reimbursing for anyone's non-refundable airfare. Hotels and passes are small change compared to that.
They are trying to for teams and players. As for reimbursing non-refundable airfares for fans, has any organization in the history of ever actually done that?
I understand that, and it wasn't my point. The person I quoted was specifically talking about how IGN was helping trying to help the fans, not the players/teams.
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for that reason, it's all profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
Do you know a thing about what happened? Apparently not but you're definitely willing to pass judgment anyway. Sad state of affairs that we have such a destructive community.
Really sucks that we wont be seeing IPL6 in March. I've been a fan of IPL since season 1 and will continue to support them in the future! I just hope we'll hear some good news from them soon!
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for that reason, it's all profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
Do you know a thing about what happened? Apparently not but you're definitely willing to pass judgment anyway. Sad state of affairs that we have such a destructive community.
Care to elaborate on what this "what happened" thing is??
What is this sudden influx of SC2 hate? I thought this sort of behavior was burning out? Is it if your not first then you are ostracized leper in bowels of hell?
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
Dude, it's understandable that you're upset, but you're making a few too many assumptions there. If IPL where banking any serious money off of interest, they wouldn't have canceled. And if they were rolling in piles of e-sports money, they wouldn't be trying to sell off IPL.
And you have no idea whether it was an issue of 'enough profit'. Maybe they had cash flow issues. Maybe they realized they could only continue at a massive loss and that there was a lot of esports competition that weekend.
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
Ever heard of PR?
I don't see how you raging and lashing back at them helps the situation at all. Just because they had to cancel one event doesn't undo all IPL has done for esports till now.
If that one event getting cancelled means you won't buy HotS doesn't really show me what kind of passionate feelings you have for esports either.
New owners have different goals. Sucks the event has to get cancelled.
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
You sound like you're young and don't know much about the real world. What interest are you talking about? What leads you to believe they don't care at all about esports? And what business is not motivated by profits? You expect IPL to invest millions just for their passion?
On March 05 2013 12:26 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: What is this sudden influx of SC2 hate? I thought this sort of behavior was burning out? Is it if your not first then you are ostracized leper in bowels of hell?
Too many people being overly optimistic about esport and we all thought sc2 would be the next "bw".
Lets not hate on them for this dying business.You can't expect an organization to throw countless money into something that just doesn't pay off. I can understand if you're upset if about non-reimbursable flight costs...IPL definitely should have announced this earlier.
At this point, I am already finding new things to do with my free time. 2011 was awesome. 2012 was even a bit much for me. An event every other weekend. It was crazy. The only thing I am disappointed about is how much harder Riot seem to care about its community compared to Blizzard.
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
Dude, it's understandable that you're upset, but you're making a few too many assumptions there. If IPL where banking any serious money off of interest, they wouldn't have canceled. And if they were rolling in piles of e-sports money, they wouldn't be trying to sell off IPL.
And you have no idea whether it was an issue of 'enough profit'. Maybe they had cash flow issues. Maybe they realized they could only continue at a massive loss and that there was a lot of esports competition that weekend.
All viable explanations. But that justifies abusing your customers?
Also, the fact of keeping any money from interest, a penny to thousands of dollars, is irrelevant. It comes down to morality. I understand that it would be very complicated and expensive for the owners/directors to figure out the interest for everyone and be able to pay it back. A substitute, like a free shirt, free tickets, free something, would be a lot better than; sorry about that, better luck next time.
And that brings up another good point... Why don't we have an idea? The official announcement is :
On March 05 2013 09:52 IGNProLeague wrote:When we launched IPL two years ago, the eSports landscape was very different with far fewer events than we have now. Today, game publishers are holding their own tournaments, which is why we are not ready to commit the resources at this time to run another major independent event.
If they don't want us to assume certain things, like what you said, cash flow issues, or what I said, not enough profits to be worth it, then they should have explained to their consumers a little better. How big of a slap in the face would it be if say, Apple just canceled their next iPhone launch and all they said was : A couple years ago it was a different scene. Other companies are selling their own phones now, so, we aren't ready to really commit to our new one. Sorry.
It would be outrageous, just like how this is.
I'm really not as upset as my tone is making me seem, but I'm just really at awe by how poorly managed this cancellation is. Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware and understand that businesses need to cut corners and make the correct move every single time, or else the ship sinks, which is what they did, but don't fib to us. Don't give us some half ass answer, and nothing in return but a, sorry about that.
On March 05 2013 12:15 MrRicewife wrote: Unbelievable.
Why can't business owners just be honest?
What you should have said: We don't think we will get enough profit out of this event. So, we are canceling it. Sorry about that. Oh, the refund will come, you know, sometime within 10 days or whatever. Oh ya, all the interest we made off of your money, we're going to keep so... You know, thanks.
I will NOT be purchasing anything in the future that has ANYTHING to do with you guys. Also, way to show us what you really think about Esports. As if you are there for any other reason but profit. For shame.
Again, you've lost a customer for Hots. I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.
You sound like you're young and don't know much about the real world. What interest are you talking about? What leads you to believe they don't care at all about esports? And what business is not motivated by profits? You expect IPL to invest millions just for their passion?
Lol... you are getting personal, why?? You don't know anything about me, yet you make the presumption I am younger than you? That's childish..
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