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Prize money summary of WoL: Races,KoreaVSWorld etc

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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 09:09:51
February 23 2013 14:39 GMT
#1
Here is a summary of prize money data from SC2earnings.com I did yesterday. Prize money results from SC2 WoL to be specific. I made a program (my first ever!) that read through their data and summarized it in different manners.

I figured I might as well use it for something and as WoL is coming to an end I thought people might find it interesting to have an overview of the prize money results of SC2 WoL. The different races, years, Korea VS foreigners and total prize money. I realize that the amount of information here is starting to get a little staggering, if so you can circumvent all the year data and go directly to 2010-2012 WoL to view the summary result.


2010
Terran prize money $308,340 - 39.3% <- percentage of the total prize money that year

Korean Terran $159,735 - 51.8% <<- percentage of that race's prize pool that year
Foreign Terran $149,130 - 48.3%

Zerg prize money $263,460 - 33.6%

Korean Zerg $213,320 - 81.0%
Foreign Zerg $49,915 - 19.0%

Protoss prize money $212,735 - 27.1%

Korean Protoss $157,875 - 74.2%
Foreign Protoss $54,860 - 25.8%

Total prize money: $784,535

Korean prize money $530,630 - 67.6%
Foreign prize money $253,905 - 32.4%


2011
Terran prize money $1,348,340 - 45.3%

Korean Terran $1,107,795 - 82.1%
Foreign Terran $240,340 - 17.8%

Zerg prize money $896,855 - 30.2%

Korean Zerg $479,450 - 53.5%
Foreign Zerg $417,405 - 46.5%

Protoss prize money $729,400 - 24.5%

Korean Protoss 386,070 - 52.9%
Foreign Protoss 343,330 - 47.1%

Total prize money: $2,974,595

Korean priz emoney $1,987,640 - 66.9%
Foreign prize money $1,012,440 - 34.1%


2012
Terran prize money $871,514 - 25.1%

Korean Terran $663,838 - 76.1%
Foreign Terran $207,401 - 23.8%

Zerg prize money $1,359,140 - 39.1%

Korean Zerg $724,371 - 53.3%
Foreign Zerg $635,224 - 46.7%

Protoss prize money $1,248,203 - 35.9%

Korean Protoss $868,561 - 69.5%
Foreign Protoss $386,122 - 30.6%

Total prize money: $3,478,857

Korean prize money $2,242,894 - 64.5%
Foreign prize money $1,298,849 - 37.3%



2010-2012 WoL
Global Terran WoL 2010-2012:
$2,528,144 - 34.93% *

Korean Terran $1,913,136 - 75.9%
Foreign Terran $596,871 - 23.9%

Global Zerg WoL 2010-2012
$2,519,455 - 34.81% *

Korean Zerg $1,418,141 - 56.1%
Foreign Zerg $1,107,544 - 43.9%

Global Protoss WoL 2010-2012
$2,190,338 - 30.26%

Korean Protoss $1,412,506 - 64.4%
Foreign Protoss $784,312 - 35.8%


Total prize money in WoL 2010-2012: $7,237,937

Korean Total prize money in WoL 2010-2012
$4,761,164 - 65.6%
Foreign Total prize money in WoL 2010-2012
$2,565,194 - 35.4%


SC2 2010-2013
Total prize money SC2 (~99% WoL) ~$7,850,000 **







Ideas and conclusions on the data

2010-2012
I think for the difference between the races is the data representing the balance at the top level good in most cases. Amusingly you might however note that the year where the three races are most balanced in the split of prize money is in 2010. I think that this particular result however does not representative balance well, because 2010 results are heavily influenced by the large and top heavy prize pools of three GSLs (with prize pools of ~180,000$ each).

The three winners of GSL grabbed ~270,000$ (equal to about 33-35% of the total prize money in 2010) and none of the winners were Terrans. To put it plain is the fact that no Terran won any of these GSLs influencing the results a lot. Despite this was Terran the race with highest earnings in 2010. This probably reflects an unbalance present in the game at this time point, which becomes more evident as we move over to 2011.

In 2011 Terran took 45.3% of the prize money. This is with a good margin the most significant unbalanced in prize money earnings in WoL and probably a reflection of that Terran was slightly OP at this time. This was however also the time when the term “Korean Terran” was coined and the data shows that the term is not coming from thin air. Out of the prize money won by the terrans in 2011 did only 17.8% get won by foreign terrans (and a big chunk of the 17.8% = Thorzain and Sjow).

Meanwhile protoss was lacking behind with only 24.5% of the prize pool winnings, for the opposite reason as terran. Few Korean Protoss were doing well, especially by the late 2011, and out of the 10 most “successful” protoss players were 6 foreigners.

Moving to 2012 we can see that balance flaming is not pointless after all ^.^ Terran went from being by the far most successful race in 2011 to become the race with least wins in 2012. Going from 45.3% to 25.1% of total earnings. As most might have guessed was 2012 the year of Zerg, taking 39.1% of the total prize pool.

Looking at the total prize pool split of WoL 2010-2012 is the most notable for me how shockingly close Terran and Zerg was in the end. After having tournaments all over the globe for 2,5 years are the two races ending up with a difference of about 5000$ or 0.08% (!). Protoss however have been slightly behind seen over the entirety of WoL, winning about $300,000 less than the two other races.

To put some words to what the data suggest is it that WoL have been unbalanced at different time points. But, when you included all the results from the release until the end of 2012 has the game been decently balanced at a pro level.

Korea VS foreigners
As for Korea vs foreigner the data looks interestingly constant over the three years: ~ 66% Korea ~34% foreigners. The reasons for this being constant are however changing over the years imo.

For 2010 I think that the GSL price pool was simply so large compared to everything else, being about 66% of the total prize pool 2010 (470,000/784,535). A very simple analysis would be that players were flying around less in 2010 and as seen was the prize pool split roughly 67% Korean tournaments and 33% foreign tournaments. I think this might be a little too simple but I go with it for now.

So for 2011 the results stay similar. However in 2011 is the GSL prize pool got cut in half (per season) while the foreign tournament prize pool grew a lot. Meaning that the prize pool in Korea got a lot smaller compared the rest of the world in 2011. This however also caused the Korean players to attend more foreign tournaments and thus counteracting this change.

Finally for 2012 the results looked to have changed a little bit, 64.5% Korea/37.3%. I don’t think this change is indicating a shift in skill level though. I am pretty sure that this is because WCS put a lot of money into SC2 scene in 2012 and a big chunk of that money was going to different regional tournaments. Thus there was simply a smaller part of the total prize sum to take for Koreans.

Update
Did calculations for all races all 2010-2012 with foreigners and Koreans separated. Must say that the results was really interesting. I think the data confirms that the 4th race exist in SC2, Korean terrans x)

While foreign and Korean zergs were relatively close together ~44% foreign ~56% Korea were the gap between foreign and Korean terran huge ~24% foreign ~76% Korean. The difference between the two races are quite staggering. I interpret the data as if you Terran, not Korean and are going to continue to play WoL you should probably consider to switch race ^.^

On a serious note, something that has a part in this is that of the none Korean Asians is there almost literary 0 results from terrans. Looner took one tournament in 2010 but after that their is nothing, I guess the none Korean Asians hate terran ^



EDIT: Were a lot of numbers going in here, If you found something that looks weird tell me and I fix it.

* You might note also that Terran has manage to barely snatch the throne from Zerg in total earnings 2010-2012 that occupied it yesterday. Why is that you might wonder.

Well I had this weird problem making the Terran figures add up, seemed like there was always about 10.000$ missing. Then it hit me! Morrow that f***** switched race after taking several tournaments as terran in 2010! As he switched race so did all the records of his victories, meaning that his victories as Terran was recorded as Zerg. So turns it out that Morrow single handily was able to make Terran the most successful race in WoL 2010-2012! :D


** Added the total prize money 2010-2013 in case anyone was curious. But I am not going to do all the calculations on it, feel free to though ^.^ First it would take hours, then there is some HotS data in their making for larger error, it adds less then 10% to the total sum, and finally do I doubt that anything groundbreaking has occurred in the metagame the last two months. AK it would be a lot of work to in the end get very similar results
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
February 23 2013 15:04 GMT
#2
this is really cool, thanks!
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dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
February 23 2013 15:06 GMT
#3
cool article, thanks!
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Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
February 23 2013 15:16 GMT
#4
This is awesome, you really did your research on this one I hate to be 'that guy' and start a balance whine, but it shows how Protoss overall has been the weakest race, although the margin is very small
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 23 2013 15:19 GMT
#5
Thanks a lot for this. It would be really interesting to do a separate korean and foreign statistics for 2011 and 2012 but I suppose a lot of work went down on your research. Korean race OP as usual, David Kim is bias and no fix :[
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 15:21:25
February 23 2013 15:21 GMT
#6
On February 24 2013 00:19 aTnClouD wrote:
Thanks a lot for this. It would be really interesting to do a separate korean and foreign statistics for 2011 and 2012 but I suppose a lot of work went down on your research. Korean race OP as usual, David Kim is bias and no fix :[


Thx, well I thought about doing that.

If SC2earnings goes up again I will add it tomorrow, got enough of numbers for one day now ^.^
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
February 23 2013 15:21 GMT
#7
2011 of terran and 2012 of terran really spark the contrast eh?
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
February 23 2013 15:32 GMT
#8
On February 24 2013 00:16 Skiblet wrote:
This is awesome, you really did your research on this one I hate to be 'that guy' and start a balance whine, but it shows how Protoss overall has been the weakest race, although the margin is very small


Percentage of money earned isn't sufficient proof of which race is stronger. Though it might be true that all underpowered races will earn a small percentage of the prize pool, that doesn't mean that all races that earn a percentage of the prize pool are underpowered. It may be an indicator, but there are way too many factors to make such a sweeping statement based on a single piece of data.
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Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 15:38:39
February 23 2013 15:37 GMT
#9
And people said that 5range queen is not a big deal

Btw, is there anyway you could make a chart of the progression of those pricemoneys by month or quarter years.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 15:40:31
February 23 2013 15:40 GMT
#10
You should put some separation between numbers, like a comma or full stop, makes it much more readable.

Quite interesting to see the korea/non krea breakdown hasn't changed much. Presumably that's winner nationality?

Would also be interesting to see what % of total prizemoney the top 5/10/20 players overall have won, and what % of Protoss prize money MC has won.
Some sorts of numbers (if possible) to see how concentrated or otherwise winnings are in each year.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
February 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#11
On February 24 2013 00:40 Lonyo wrote:
You should put some separation between numbers, like a comma or full stop, makes it much more readable.

Quite interesting to see the korea/non krea breakdown hasn't changed much. Presumably that's winner nationality?

Would also be interesting to see what % of total prizemoney the top 5/10/20 players overall have won, and what % of Protoss prize money MC has won.
Some sorts of numbers (if possible) to see how concentrated or otherwise winnings are in each year.


Check SC2earnings.com, you should be able to get all the info you're looking for there.
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Baozer
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden159 Posts
February 23 2013 15:48 GMT
#12
Nice writeup.
But yea please fix the commas for correct grammar
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 15:53:12
February 23 2013 15:50 GMT
#13
On February 24 2013 00:40 Lonyo wrote:
You should put some separation between numbers, like a comma or full stop, makes it much more readable.

Quite interesting to see the korea/non krea breakdown hasn't changed much. Presumably that's winner nationality?

Would also be interesting to see what % of total prizemoney the top 5/10/20 players overall have won, and what % of Protoss prize money MC has won.
Some sorts of numbers (if possible) to see how concentrated or otherwise winnings are in each year.


I changed the comma thing. Anyway as the previous posted said you can check SC2earnings, but from the top of my head I can tell you that SC2 in general is very top result heavy.

I know that at the beginning of 2012 had the top 10 earning Koreans gathered more than the top 100 EU/ NA players had combined for instance.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 23 2013 15:50 GMT
#14
Wow, 45% -> 25% in a year

also interesting to note that of all time prize earnings zerg just barely edges out of terran
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 23 2013 15:54 GMT
#15
On February 24 2013 00:50 nomyx wrote:
Wow, 45% -> 25% in a year

also interesting to note that of all time prize earnings zerg just barely edges out of terran

That's probably only due to Fruitdealer managing to win in early Terran OP WoL.
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Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
February 23 2013 15:58 GMT
#16
On February 24 2013 00:16 Skiblet wrote:
This is awesome, you really did your research on this one I hate to be 'that guy' and start a balance whine, but it shows how Protoss overall has been the weakest race, although the margin is very small


You can't use earnings as a measure of balance at all. There's too many factors that affect it. One of the most obvious ones is where the OP points out 6 of the most successful protoss are foreigners, then you factor in those foreign protoss would more than likely lose a best of three against a korean terran/zerg in a participating tournament.

JazzNL
Profile Joined March 2012
182 Posts
February 23 2013 16:01 GMT
#17
Awesome writeup! Moral of the story: Terran easymode, Zerg OP (has been ever since roachbuff, not to mention queenbuff, disgrace), Protoss underpowered since launchday!
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
February 23 2013 16:15 GMT
#18
Not surprising. Protoss has always been the weakest race since BW days. T_T
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 23 2013 16:15 GMT
#19
On February 24 2013 00:54 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 00:50 nomyx wrote:
Wow, 45% -> 25% in a year

also interesting to note that of all time prize earnings zerg just barely edges out of terran

That's probably only due to Fruitdealer managing to win in early Terran OP WoL.


That and stephano winning pretty much all the whities tournaments.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 23 2013 16:25 GMT
#20
On February 24 2013 00:54 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 00:50 nomyx wrote:
Wow, 45% -> 25% in a year

also interesting to note that of all time prize earnings zerg just barely edges out of terran

That's probably only due to Fruitdealer managing to win in early Terran OP WoL.

Or due to on sc2earning, we have rank 1 a Protoss, rank 2 a Terran, and next 3,4,5,6 are Zerg...
FancyCaTSC2
Profile Joined February 2013
56 Posts
February 23 2013 16:26 GMT
#21
Really nice, today at work I was just asking myself what exactly these numbers would look like and now I find them here

Can you mention which tournaments were included?
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
February 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#22
On February 24 2013 01:26 FancyCaTSC2 wrote:
Really nice, today at work I was just asking myself what exactly these numbers would look like and now I find them here

Can you mention which tournaments were included?


Happy you liked it

Well SC2earnings have some players with as little as 15$ earnings in their list so they cover most stuff. I guess some of the minor online tournaments (~sub 100$) might be excluded but everything else is in their.

Or well I excluded WoL tournaments of 2013. I did this because an increasing amount of the prize money is going to HotS and then I need to manually check if it is has been a HotS or WoL tournament.

If someone named me the largest HotS tournaments I could check them and excluded them from 2013 and then add the 2013 data as well.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 16:39:05
February 23 2013 16:38 GMT
#23
If you care about the prize number itself,

Terran prize money increase 447% in 2011, and decrease 36% in 2012
Zerg prize money increase 331% in 2011, and increase 152% in 2012.
Protoss prize money increase 343% in 2011, and increase 171% in 2012.


BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
February 23 2013 20:02 GMT
#24
As a natural cynic, I'm curious how the numbers break down in 6 month intervals because of this observation:

2010: SC2 released in the middle of the year, few tournaments set up or planned for 2011
2011: Growth in viewership and number of tournaments
2012 January - June: Growth continuing from last year, increasing popularity of League of Legends
2012 July - December: Stagnation

I wouldn't be so concerned if 2012 July - December period has the same or similar rate of growth as it was in the same period of last year.

4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 20:42:06
February 23 2013 20:41 GMT
#25
On February 24 2013 05:02 BirdKiller wrote:
As a natural cynic, I'm curious how the numbers break down in 6 month intervals because of this observation:

2010: SC2 released in the middle of the year, few tournaments set up or planned for 2011
2011: Growth in viewership and number of tournaments
2012 January - June: Growth continuing from last year, increasing popularity of League of Legends
2012 July - December: Stagnation

I wouldn't be so concerned if 2012 July - December period has the same or similar rate of growth as it was in the same period of last year.



I got the natural cynic part, but the rest not so much ^.^

Not really sure how or why you thought it related to the topic but anyway man, it is chill. SC2 aint going anywhere for at least 5 years. But no SC2 aint going to get to LoL numbers, not that it matters. There will be some growth connected to HotS release however, you don´t even need to be optimistic to believe that, it just make sense!

And if I would be worried for any games longevity it would be LoL ^.^

Except from Riot dumping money on it doesn't LOL have anything going against DOTA2. If the money flow would stop for whatever reason LoL would have as much chance as the average roadkill to keep going.
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 23 2013 20:59 GMT
#26
On February 24 2013 01:37 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 01:26 FancyCaTSC2 wrote:
Really nice, today at work I was just asking myself what exactly these numbers would look like and now I find them here

Can you mention which tournaments were included?


Happy you liked it

Well SC2earnings have some players with as little as 15$ earnings in their list so they cover most stuff. I guess some of the minor online tournaments (~sub 100$) might be excluded but everything else is in their.

Or well I excluded WoL tournaments of 2013. I did this because an increasing amount of the prize money is going to HotS and then I need to manually check if it is has been a HotS or WoL tournament.

If someone named me the largest HotS tournaments I could check them and excluded them from 2013 and then add the 2013 data as well.


Off the top of my head, it excludes many of the Playhems dailies (Hyun/Revival, being a sleep-hating online champion would have the longest list of wins ever, but they don't) and never counted Leenock's fight club win against Hyun a large sum. There are other pieces of information missing, but I'd say it'll just add a negligible percent error to the numbers.

On February 24 2013 05:41 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 05:02 BirdKiller wrote:
As a natural cynic, I'm curious how the numbers break down in 6 month intervals because of this observation:

2010: SC2 released in the middle of the year, few tournaments set up or planned for 2011
2011: Growth in viewership and number of tournaments
2012 January - June: Growth continuing from last year, increasing popularity of League of Legends
2012 July - December: Stagnation

I wouldn't be so concerned if 2012 July - December period has the same or similar rate of growth as it was in the same period of last year.



I got the natural cynic part, but the rest not so much ^.^

Not really sure how or why you thought it related to the topic but anyway man, it is chill. SC2 aint going anywhere for at least 5 years. But no SC2 aint going to get to LoL numbers, not that it matters. There will be some growth connected to HotS release however, you don´t even need to be optimistic to believe that, it just make sense!

And if I would be worried for any games longevity it would be LoL ^.^

Except from Riot dumping money on it doesn't LOL have anything going against DOTA2. If the money flow would stop for whatever reason LoL would have as much chance as the average roadkill to keep going.


I can't speak much for the scene in NA or EU, but that's completely false in KR. Example, Olympus (large Japanese company and previously sponsored an OSL) sponsored the latest Champions. And OGN Club Masters that just finished up is sponsored by a pair of Taiwanese electronic manufacturers.

Perhaps more importantly, the most financially stable KESPA teams are getting into it with CJ buying out Blaze and Frost. KT's teams are sick nowadays.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
February 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#27
On February 24 2013 05:02 BirdKiller wrote:
As a natural cynic, I'm curious how the numbers break down in 6 month intervals because of this observation:

2010: SC2 released in the middle of the year, few tournaments set up or planned for 2011
2011: Growth in viewership and number of tournaments
2012 January - June: Growth continuing from last year, increasing popularity of League of Legends
2012 July - December: Stagnation

I wouldn't be so concerned if 2012 July - December period has the same or similar rate of growth as it was in the same period of last year.



You dont plan big tournaments 2-3 months in advance.
So your July-Dec stagnation should not affect the price money in the tourneys of the same period.
It's effects might be seen in 2013 now.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
February 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#28
The price money distribution really shows the skill gap between the races.
Terran has been nerfed almost every patch after release and only the best of the best Terrans stay on top and win.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2013 21:49 GMT
#29
Damn 7.5 million price money. So nice.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#30
early season of GSL with 100 000$ wins really help terran here.
Evene if FD and MC won a season each during that time.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 23 2013 21:57 GMT
#31
Terran got fucked in 2012 =( But overall I guess WoL was balanced after all!. I am just happy that MC, MVP, and Nestea are top 3 =]
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hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
February 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#32
Really good post, it really summarizes a lot about tournament winnings for each race.
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 23 2013 22:13 GMT
#33
Oh and 1 last thing, I didn't want to mention it until I looked up some facts to be sure, but got lazy until now.

Finally for 2012 the results looked to have changed a little bit, 64.5% Korea/37.3%. I don’t think this change is indicating a shift in skill level though. I am pretty sure that this is because WCS put a lot of money into SC2 scene in 2012 and a big chunk of that money was going to different regional tournaments. Thus there was simply a smaller part of the total prize sum to take for Koreans


A larger reason for this change in winnings distribution is that the 2012 prize pool is lower in the GSL than 2011's GSL. Code A got more money and it was an overall ~28 million won increase per season; still the amount doesn't cover going from 7 GSL + 1 super tournament + 1 world tournament + Blizz Cup into 2012's 5 seasons + Blizzard Cup.

A lot of that money was redirected since Gom also decided to put a greater emphasis on teamleagues and each tournament suddenly got 63 million won instead of the 15 or so million in 2011 per tournament (50 million for the last one though). However, teamleagues don't factor into individual player earnings so the redirection of funds isn't accounted for.
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synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:16:32
February 23 2013 22:58 GMT
#34
On February 24 2013 06:46 TurboMaN wrote:
The price money distribution really shows the skill gap between the races.
Terran has been nerfed almost every patch after release and only the best of the best Terrans stay on top and win.

Good old times

The best joke I ever heard.
It's even funnier considering the fact how Raxes didn't need a supply depot, EMP's radius was enough to fuck up all your HTs, Siege tanks and Reapers were ridiculously strong.
And so on, and so on.
Definitely there was skill but not that much as there was race imbalance.

Edit:
Forgot also the good old days of GomTvT.
Where only the top players played and by some 'surprise' all the 'top' players were terrans that have reached the finals.
It was like nowdays with patchzerg.
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
February 23 2013 23:07 GMT
#35
Really neat post Zake, thanks for using our numbers from the website! Sorry for the downtime the past while, we were in the process of switching web hosts last evening and our SQL database had a slight problem when moving over. Everything should be up and running smooth now.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:18:02
February 23 2013 23:17 GMT
#36
On February 24 2013 05:41 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 05:02 BirdKiller wrote:
As a natural cynic, I'm curious how the numbers break down in 6 month intervals because of this observation:

2010: SC2 released in the middle of the year, few tournaments set up or planned for 2011
2011: Growth in viewership and number of tournaments
2012 January - June: Growth continuing from last year, increasing popularity of League of Legends
2012 July - December: Stagnation

I wouldn't be so concerned if 2012 July - December period has the same or similar rate of growth as it was in the same period of last year.



I got the natural cynic part, but the rest not so much ^.^

Not really sure how or why you thought it related to the topic but anyway man, it is chill. SC2 aint going anywhere for at least 5 years. But no SC2 aint going to get to LoL numbers, not that it matters. There will be some growth connected to HotS release however, you don´t even need to be optimistic to believe that, it just make sense!

And if I would be worried for any games longevity it would be LoL ^.^

Except from Riot dumping money on it doesn't LOL have anything going against DOTA2. If the money flow would stop for whatever reason LoL would have as much chance as the average roadkill to keep going.

What Riot does is completely a good strategy. Instead of spending money on advertisement and stuff, they spend money on organizing tournament and establish competitive scene. Riot is not sponsoring every tournaments by itself. There're plenty of other sponsors all over the world. We don't like the way Riot does thing, but in the end of the day, if there're a crowd there will be a sponsor. The sponsors don't care where and how the crowd is made.

On the other hand, if you think about it, Valve doesn't really spend money on anything significant except TI. Valve is trying to let the scene building itself. They make tournament feature and tickets and stuff to let people organize tournament themselves. But the result is that it's too easy to make online tournaments, we end up having a bunch of very similar tournaments (same participating team, same casters, all online invitational). DotA2 tournaments relies too much on ticket and streaming revenue, as the result, all we see are invitational tournaments where the same teams play against each other the same way (the only way to have highest ticket and viewer sale is to have famous teams to play for the tournnament).

As much as I love Dota, from business standpoint, Riot is better than Valve right now. They execute a harder plan (selling champion, skin, runes....) and got away with it. Riot's product itself is more attractive than Valve's (skin is much better than some generic body part, I know a lot of people who pay for LoL and HoN's skins, but don't spend a dime on DotA2's body part). If worst comes to worst, Riot can start to develop stream and ticket system like in Dota2 easily and can be very successful with it, while DotA2 just can't go back to Riot way because people are gonna riot their ass.

OT: I hope Blizzard starts to be more active in HotS. The number shows that sponsors are not afraid to spend money on title SC2 (which is a blessing), now Blizzard to need find away to make SC2 more accessible to mass population (*cough* free), and adapt to the real world.
TiCHEN
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands152 Posts
February 23 2013 23:27 GMT
#37
some interesting facts, i didn't expect to have such an even race distribution,prize money wise. Expected terran to have like 45%
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
February 23 2013 23:31 GMT
#38
2012
Terran prize money $871,514 - 25.1%


T.T

If the Nerfs continue its 2013: Protoss prize money -100.0%
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:50:43
February 23 2013 23:49 GMT
#39
On February 24 2013 08:07 PrimeTimey wrote:
Really neat post Zake, thanks for using our numbers from the website! Sorry for the downtime the past while, we were in the process of switching web hosts last evening and our SQL database had a slight problem when moving over. Everything should be up and running smooth now.


TY, well it is a great site for SC2 stat nerds so =) Looking at the rising pile of suggestion for updates to the OP does it look like I will have to put it to use tomorrow again.
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RParks42
Profile Joined December 2012
United States77 Posts
February 24 2013 03:24 GMT
#40
Premier Tournament Championship Contenders
2011
Terran: Mvp, MKP, Bomber, Polt, Puma, MMA, Jjakji (debatable)
Zerg: Nestea, July, Losira, Leenock, DRG
Protoss: MC, Huk, Naniwa, Inca, Puzzle, Oz, Hero

1st half of 2012
Terran: Mvp, Gumiho, MKP, aLive, MMA, Polt
Zerg: DRG, Violet, Symbol, Nestea, Stephano
Protoss: MC, Genius, Squirtle, PartinG, Seed, Hero

2nd half of 2012
Terran: TaeJa, Mvp, Polt, MKP
Zerg: Life, Leenock, DRG, Stephano, Sniper, Violet, Symbol, HyuN (debatable)
Protoss: Alicia, MC, Creator, Squirtle, PartinG, Rain, HerO

Balance may play a part in it, but to me it looks like the change in percentages was mostly because of the players who became legitimate threats to win titles. 2011 Looks like an all-star team of Terrans, Nestea plus the start of a few current succesful Zergs, along with a group of Protoss that is pretty uninspiring other than MC. 2012 then started out much the same way, with the Terrans having not gone through a slump/injury yet, while Zerg starts to look very solid and the Protoss looks unbeatable (anybody remember the 5 Protoss Ro8 Season 2?). Then came Polt getting burned out, Gumiho having problems in individual leagues, aLive coming back down to earth, MMA and the Slayers thing, Mvp's injuries. Protoss then had their own problems with MC not having a team house, Squirtle slumping, Genius falling off, Seed losing desire. Rain also wasn't in the scene for that long, and for all of Alicia's success outside of Korea, if all you watched was GSL you wouldn't even know who he was in 2012. This combined with Life joining a real team, DRG keeping his skill level and results high even though he was "slumping", Symbol maintaining skill level, Sniper finally getting the results his skills warranted, and Leenock returning to top form, isn't it obvious why Zerg has more winnings in 2012? Especially with more of the premier tournaments being held in the latter half of the year, about 65% of the years winnings
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
February 24 2013 03:41 GMT
#41
Pretty cool info. Thanks!
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
February 24 2013 03:50 GMT
#42
Would be curious to what the results would be if only first place prizes were considered. Aka who actually won, and perhaps also everyone except for first place as well aka which race had the most runner ups who received prize money.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
February 24 2013 03:53 GMT
#43
2012's poor performance of terran can be partially due to more money into foreign only tournaments (specially on-line european tournaments, where lag is a big barrier for Koreans), and these tours being ZvP fests
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 24 2013 03:57 GMT
#44
Nice compilation of info you have there, much appreciated

Really interesting to see some of the variations there.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 24 2013 03:58 GMT
#45
On February 24 2013 12:24 RParks42 wrote:
Premier Tournament Championship Contenders
2011
Terran: Mvp, MKP, Bomber, Polt, Puma, MMA, Jjakji (debatable)
Zerg: Nestea, July, Losira, Leenock, DRG
Protoss: MC, Huk, Naniwa, Inca, Puzzle, Oz, Hero

1st half of 2012
Terran: Mvp, Gumiho, MKP, aLive, MMA, Polt
Zerg: DRG, Violet, Symbol, Nestea, Stephano
Protoss: MC, Genius, Squirtle, PartinG, Seed, Hero

2nd half of 2012
Terran: TaeJa, Mvp, Polt, MKP
Zerg: Life, Leenock, DRG, Stephano, Sniper, Violet, Symbol, HyuN (debatable)
Protoss: Alicia, MC, Creator, Squirtle, PartinG, Rain, HerO

Balance may play a part in it, but to me it looks like the change in percentages was mostly because of the players who became legitimate threats to win titles. 2011 Looks like an all-star team of Terrans, Nestea plus the start of a few current succesful Zergs, along with a group of Protoss that is pretty uninspiring other than MC. 2012 then started out much the same way, with the Terrans having not gone through a slump/injury yet, while Zerg starts to look very solid and the Protoss looks unbeatable (anybody remember the 5 Protoss Ro8 Season 2?). Then came Polt getting burned out, Gumiho having problems in individual leagues, aLive coming back down to earth, MMA and the Slayers thing, Mvp's injuries. Protoss then had their own problems with MC not having a team house, Squirtle slumping, Genius falling off, Seed losing desire. Rain also wasn't in the scene for that long, and for all of Alicia's success outside of Korea, if all you watched was GSL you wouldn't even know who he was in 2012. This combined with Life joining a real team, DRG keeping his skill level and results high even though he was "slumping", Symbol maintaining skill level, Sniper finally getting the results his skills warranted, and Leenock returning to top form, isn't it obvious why Zerg has more winnings in 2012? Especially with more of the premier tournaments being held in the latter half of the year, about 65% of the years winnings


Well, it is impossible to accurately separate the two. Was MMA's caused by Slayers situation or Ryu Won leaving? Probably. Did his TvZ drop off because balance of patch changes? Likely as well. or maybe the zergs got enter at multitasking?
RParks42
Profile Joined December 2012
United States77 Posts
February 24 2013 04:07 GMT
#46
On February 24 2013 12:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 12:24 RParks42 wrote:
Premier Tournament Championship Contenders
2011
Terran: Mvp, MKP, Bomber, Polt, Puma, MMA, Jjakji (debatable)
Zerg: Nestea, July, Losira, Leenock, DRG
Protoss: MC, Huk, Naniwa, Inca, Puzzle, Oz, Hero

1st half of 2012
Terran: Mvp, Gumiho, MKP, aLive, MMA, Polt
Zerg: DRG, Violet, Symbol, Nestea, Stephano
Protoss: MC, Genius, Squirtle, PartinG, Seed, Hero

2nd half of 2012
Terran: TaeJa, Mvp, Polt, MKP
Zerg: Life, Leenock, DRG, Stephano, Sniper, Violet, Symbol, HyuN (debatable)
Protoss: Alicia, MC, Creator, Squirtle, PartinG, Rain, HerO

Balance may play a part in it, but to me it looks like the change in percentages was mostly because of the players who became legitimate threats to win titles. 2011 Looks like an all-star team of Terrans, Nestea plus the start of a few current succesful Zergs, along with a group of Protoss that is pretty uninspiring other than MC. 2012 then started out much the same way, with the Terrans having not gone through a slump/injury yet, while Zerg starts to look very solid and the Protoss looks unbeatable (anybody remember the 5 Protoss Ro8 Season 2?). Then came Polt getting burned out, Gumiho having problems in individual leagues, aLive coming back down to earth, MMA and the Slayers thing, Mvp's injuries. Protoss then had their own problems with MC not having a team house, Squirtle slumping, Genius falling off, Seed losing desire. Rain also wasn't in the scene for that long, and for all of Alicia's success outside of Korea, if all you watched was GSL you wouldn't even know who he was in 2012. This combined with Life joining a real team, DRG keeping his skill level and results high even though he was "slumping", Symbol maintaining skill level, Sniper finally getting the results his skills warranted, and Leenock returning to top form, isn't it obvious why Zerg has more winnings in 2012? Especially with more of the premier tournaments being held in the latter half of the year, about 65% of the years winnings


Well, it is impossible to accurately separate the two. Was MMA's caused by Slayers situation or Ryu Won leaving? Probably. Did his TvZ drop off because balance of patch changes? Likely as well. or maybe the zergs got enter at multitasking?

I agree with both of your points, that many different factors caused players to either get better or struggle. And that's, in my opinion the biggest reason why racial balance changed. Players and their skills changed for numerous reasons, sometimes due to a patch, other times due to outside factors. I don't know about the multi tasking thing (I do think that's true), I think a bigger factor is just that Zerg's figured out how to react to almost everything properly
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Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
February 24 2013 06:23 GMT
#47
poor protoss always earns the least out of all the races
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
February 24 2013 07:05 GMT
#48
This numbers look good, more money is put into Sc2 each year, and koreans win a little less each year.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 24 2013 07:15 GMT
#49
This is an amazing article thanks a ton for putting this together!
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 12:16:20
February 24 2013 12:15 GMT
#50
Made a big update now. With some quite interesting results I would say ^.^

Now I am definitely done with this however. The amount of figures is starting to become crazy, and for every calculation I add it becomes more likely that I make an error. I have double checked almost all calculations however, a few times there was around 1000$ missing but what the hell. Like 0.05% in the context, probably I missed this one Chinese guy from the Asian list somewhere (I have to manually remove all the none Koreans from the Asian list)
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Babru
Profile Joined September 2010
196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 13:17:43
February 24 2013 13:15 GMT
#51
On February 24 2013 00:19 aTnClouD wrote:
Thanks a lot for this. It would be really interesting to do a separate korean and foreign statistics for 2011 and 2012 but I suppose a lot of work went down on your research. Korean race OP as usual, David Kim is bias and no fix :[


I dont get the argument that goes; "foreigner terrans are doing so bad compared to foreigner zergs, therefor blizzard must address balance", thats like saying; "look blizzard, terrans are having trouble in masters league (as opposed to GM), do something blizzard!". The highest level is what matters when it comes to balance.

So during the entire history of WoL zerg wasnt even the race making the most money, it was terran. Bad news for certain rage kids on NA/EU who never gg vs a zerg and always flame (just to be clear, im not referring to ClouD).
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 24 2013 13:28 GMT
#52
On February 24 2013 16:05 jcroisdale wrote:
This numbers look good, more money is put into Sc2 each year, and koreans win a little less each year.


Actually, I think koreans winning less is misleading. It is mainly due to less payout from GSL in 2012 (since there are only 5 per year) and several big payouts from regional locked tournaments (mainly the WCS series with countries and continentals). I think if you look at the true 'international' tournaments(IPL, MLG, DH, NASL, etc), koreans have taken more of the money compare to 2011.
wammyz
Profile Joined January 2013
90 Posts
March 02 2013 05:11 GMT
#53
Holy shit Terran was SCARY in 2011. Hope we never see a race dominate like that again.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 02 2013 05:17 GMT
#54
On February 24 2013 22:28 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 16:05 jcroisdale wrote:
This numbers look good, more money is put into Sc2 each year, and koreans win a little less each year.


Actually, I think koreans winning less is misleading. It is mainly due to less payout from GSL in 2012 (since there are only 5 per year) and several big payouts from regional locked tournaments (mainly the WCS series with countries and continentals). I think if you look at the true 'international' tournaments(IPL, MLG, DH, NASL, etc), koreans have taken more of the money compare to 2011.

Indeed, GSL had a crazy amount of tournaments in 2011.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League
Just look at the change between 2011 and 2012
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 02 2013 05:26 GMT
#55
2011 was truly the golden age.
zw1er
Profile Joined February 2012
Poland81 Posts
March 02 2013 08:25 GMT
#56
Protoss the weakest
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 02 2013 08:40 GMT
#57
On March 02 2013 14:26 ZenithM wrote:
2011 was truly the golden age.


of imbalance.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
March 02 2013 09:01 GMT
#58
Nice OP! I appreciate research like this this a lot. Seems like MC has kept Protoss earnings in good shape ^^

On a related note has anyone ever compiled statistics of raceswitches of foreigners coming from BW to SC2. I think a possible reason for the korean terran > foreign terran relation comes from the simple fact that there are much more korean terran than there are foreign terrans. It would be very interesting to see whether more foreigners than koreans switched away from terran in BW -> SC2 transition. Also quite few foreigners come from other games, mainly WC3, and attraction to "badass aliens" protoss and zerg might be a relevant factor for players who never played BW.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 02 2013 13:08 GMT
#59
On March 02 2013 17:25 KingOfPain wrote:
Protoss the weakest


Same way in brood war. Back then protoss could only win in the fall, none of the other months
wammyz
Profile Joined January 2013
90 Posts
March 02 2013 16:48 GMT
#60
On March 02 2013 14:26 ZenithM wrote:
2011 was truly the golden age.

Of Terran...
An Extremely Proud Bear Fanboy
TerranTechie
Profile Joined August 2012
24 Posts
March 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#61
On March 02 2013 14:11 wammyz wrote:
Holy shit Terran was SCARY in 2011. Hope we never see a race dominate like that again.


We are right now....
Mothership Core. Good idea Blizz. Kappa
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 02 2013 17:18 GMT
#62
On March 03 2013 02:07 TerranTechie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 14:11 wammyz wrote:
Holy shit Terran was SCARY in 2011. Hope we never see a race dominate like that again.


We are right now....

Actually no.
Yes it is bad now but don't forget this is the first season ever Zerg is having more code S then Terran.
Now compare that to the 20 code S Terrans....
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#63
On March 03 2013 02:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 02:07 TerranTechie wrote:
On March 02 2013 14:11 wammyz wrote:
Holy shit Terran was SCARY in 2011. Hope we never see a race dominate like that again.


We are right now....

Actually no.
Yes it is bad now but don't forget this is the first season ever Zerg is having more code S then Terran.
Now compare that to the 20 code S Terrans....


It's not only about code S, zergs are winning everywhere, just look at the korean/foreigner prize distribution for Z in 2012.
Terran & Potato Salad.
TerranTechie
Profile Joined August 2012
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 18:04:35
March 02 2013 18:03 GMT
#64
On March 03 2013 02:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 02:07 TerranTechie wrote:
On March 02 2013 14:11 wammyz wrote:
Holy shit Terran was SCARY in 2011. Hope we never see a race dominate like that again.


We are right now....

Actually no.
Yes it is bad now but don't forget this is the first season ever Zerg is having more code S then Terran.
Now compare that to the 20 code S Terrans....


Now compare that to the fact that zergs didn't know how to play the game (by this I mean defending certain attacks and timings and walking razor's edge in production which is part of zerg mechanics) and the NUMEROUS BALANCE and MAP changes every season. Now zergs are happy and will begin the whining in HotS until they win every tournament as well.

Prediction is that terran nerfs and map changes happen every season in HotS while zergs simultaneously learn how to economically deal with all harrassment techniques and then we arrive at a WoL-like state all over again just in time for Legacy of the Hive.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
March 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#65
Interesting that the foreign zerg prize winnings is so big compare to the other two races in the foreign category.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#66
wow I hadnt seen this till now - great work man :D
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Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
March 02 2013 19:23 GMT
#67
People saying less and less money is going into Sc2 and it is dying. Well this thread proves that wrong in terms of money going into the game.

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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 20:03:25
March 02 2013 20:02 GMT
#68
The update really just confirms the general consensus that Terran is harder to play, 23% of terran winnings are from non-koreans, tho that also counts 2010/2011 when terrible maps/spawns made terran imba. Western progamers should defo not pick terran.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 02:31:09
March 03 2013 01:49 GMT
#69
Great work, I love seeing stuff like this.

Now I want to work out what percentage of the overall SCII money the top players earned.

EDIT: Top 5 players earning breakdown below.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 02:44:29
March 03 2013 02:06 GMT
#70
TOP EARNERS BREAKDOWN (WoL)

(P)MC - EARNINGS: $355403
Percentage of overall winnings: 4.91%
Percentage of Protoss winnings: 16.23%

(T)Mvp - EARNINGS: $333620
Percentage of overall winnings: 4.61%
Percentage of Terran winnings: 13.20%

(Z)NesTea - EARNINGS: $255313
Percentage of overall winnings: 3.53%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 10.13%

(Z)Stephano - EARNINGS: $212755
Percentage of overall winnings: 2.94%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 8.44%

(Z)DongRaeGu - EARNINGS: $204903
Percentage of overall winnings: 2.83%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 8.13%

TOP 5 PLAYERS OVERALL EARNINGS: $1,361,994
TOP 5 PLAYERS PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL WINNINGS: 18.82%

TOP 10 PLAYERS OVERALL EARNINGS: $2,266,982
TOP 10 PLAYERS PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL WINNINGS: 31.32%

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 03 2013 05:35 GMT
#71
SC2earnings doesn't gather detail for every tournament that pays out, unfortunately. Indeed there are loads it misses, not to mention all the smaller showmatches and whatnot. I imagine the trend would still exist but the numbers aren't 100% accurate just going off SC2earnings.

Either way, interesting stuff. Liking how much the prize pool increases and how foreigners are (slowly) taking more of it. Hopefully we'll see this continue in 2013!
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
March 03 2013 07:27 GMT
#72
On March 02 2013 17:40 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 14:26 ZenithM wrote:
2011 was truly the golden age.


of imbalance.

of people actually watching sc2, of having fun with the game, etc. I haven't truly cared about sc2 at all after mvp lost to life (despite him having put a lot more thought into his preparation, considering how the games looked), and that was just the icing on the cake after a really long time of torture.At least hots is coming soon and everything is gonna change, hopefully for the better, hue.
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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 07:37:35
March 03 2013 07:36 GMT
#73
On February 24 2013 00:19 aTnClouD wrote:
Thanks a lot for this. It would be really interesting to do a separate korean and foreign statistics for 2011 and 2012 but I suppose a lot of work went down on your research. Korean race OP as usual, David Kim is bias and no fix :[

hahaha, nerf koreans - make starcraft easier ? or make completely new patches only in english ?
But i guess they will figure it out and win anyway T_T
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
March 05 2013 09:19 GMT
#74
On March 03 2013 03:50 liberate71 wrote:
wow I hadnt seen this till now - great work man :D


TY Happy to see people are taking notice, took a little while to assemble it so ^^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
spbelky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States623 Posts
March 05 2013 09:41 GMT
#75
On March 03 2013 11:06 blacksheepwall wrote:
TOP EARNERS BREAKDOWN (WoL)

(P)MC - EARNINGS: $355403
Percentage of overall winnings: 4.91%
Percentage of Protoss winnings: 16.23%

(T)Mvp - EARNINGS: $333620
Percentage of overall winnings: 4.61%
Percentage of Terran winnings: 13.20%

(Z)NesTea - EARNINGS: $255313
Percentage of overall winnings: 3.53%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 10.13%

(Z)Stephano - EARNINGS: $212755
Percentage of overall winnings: 2.94%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 8.44%

(Z)DongRaeGu - EARNINGS: $204903
Percentage of overall winnings: 2.83%
Percentage of Zerg winnings: 8.13%

TOP 5 PLAYERS OVERALL EARNINGS: $1,361,994
TOP 5 PLAYERS PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL WINNINGS: 18.82%

TOP 10 PLAYERS OVERALL EARNINGS: $2,266,982
TOP 10 PLAYERS PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL WINNINGS: 31.32%



Wow SC2 has a better wealth distribution than the American economy
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 05 2013 10:28 GMT
#76
Sorry if I missed it in the OP but I did try and check; what tournaments does sc2earnings use? Just would like to know out of curiosity!

Cool stats though

(btw If that was mentioned already I'm an idiot and while write out lines on a blackboard)
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samwise_the_brave
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany11 Posts
March 05 2013 11:07 GMT
#77
well done now a staticstic about viewer population would be nice too but i guess thatis is to hard to find out
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 11:20:37
March 05 2013 11:19 GMT
#78
On March 05 2013 19:28 Targe wrote:
Sorry if I missed it in the OP but I did try and check; what tournaments does sc2earnings use? Just would like to know out of curiosity!

Cool stats though

(btw If that was mentioned already I'm an idiot and while write out lines on a blackboard)


Time to go to the black board ^^ No I mentioned it in a post but not in the OP.

All big tournaments are in there. The tournaments that are not in there are the really small online tournaments, I think prize money payments below 50$ is excluded.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
March 05 2013 11:39 GMT
#79
If you count the 50million Won that will be won by either Symbol or RoRo in GSL 2013 season 1 towards Zerg we're back to Zerg winning the prizemoney war in WoL
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 11:41:29
March 05 2013 11:41 GMT
#80
On March 05 2013 20:39 TeeTS wrote:
If you count the 50million Won that will be won by either Symbol or RoRo in GSL 2013 season 1 towards Zerg we're back to Zerg winning the prizemoney war in WoL


Yeah most likely so, add that the top 3 in Iron Squid II was also all Zergs so.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 05 2013 19:12 GMT
#81
On March 05 2013 20:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 19:28 Targe wrote:
Sorry if I missed it in the OP but I did try and check; what tournaments does sc2earnings use? Just would like to know out of curiosity!

Cool stats though

(btw If that was mentioned already I'm an idiot and while write out lines on a blackboard)


Time to go to the black board ^^ No I mentioned it in a post but not in the OP.

All big tournaments are in there. The tournaments that are not in there are the really small online tournaments, I think prize money payments below 50$ is excluded.


Damn and I usually bother to read the posts..
Thanks, was wondering if the small tournies were in or not.
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