EPTIf you're that desperate for money/sponsorship, then go get a real job, because if you're hacking then you're clearly not playing out of love for the game. If you're taking just taking this route because it's "easy money", then you deserve no sympathy anyway when it's at the expense of the game's integrity and the legitimate players' fun.
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
If you're that desperate for money/sponsorship, then go get a real job, because if you're hacking then you're clearly not playing out of love for the game. If you're taking just taking this route because it's "easy money", then you deserve no sympathy anyway when it's at the expense of the game's integrity and the legitimate players' fun. | ||
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Ldawg
United States328 Posts
On February 10 2013 11:58 vectorix108 wrote: Anyone see him post this back in the Spades hacking thread? That last paragraph is great LOL LMAO last sentence from that post of his is pure gold. Check his Twitter account here, something fishy going on. He asks how long it takes for cheaters in tournaments to be forgiven, then follows up with another tweet an hour later stating he didn't cheat but was asking out of curiosity? | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
Also saying he did not make this decision? He used the hacks so it was his decision to cheat even if he was pressured by something else(which is bullshit) he could have said no!! | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On February 10 2013 11:29 stew_ wrote: judging by his twitter posts, i dont feel that he's very sorry for his actions... something like this should tarnish your reputation as a progamer, as well as a person in general. Yeah he doesn't seem sorry at all... Facing hackers on ladder is infuriating because you don't get good practice from someone who is blindly hard countering you. A lot of strategies work on deception. They are strategies timings... You can't harass or sneak expansions. I have 0 tolerance for hackers and I hope he faces a lot more negativity so that he actually shows some sign of remorse not, "oh yeah I hacked sorry, so when is it ok to play again?". | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46179 Posts
On February 10 2013 13:18 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Man, admitting to it takes all the fun out of a witch hunt. I had my pitchfork and torch all ready to go -_- Sarcasm or not (there have been several other posts similar to yours), I don't understand why people are so eager to go on witch hunts and prolong this agony. I just want these things over and done with. I find these hackers and cheaters to be an embarrassment to our community, and the longer it takes to rid ourselves of these people (especially those who aren't completely anonymous), the worse we look overall. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On February 10 2013 14:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Sarcasm or not (there have been several other posts similar to yours), I don't understand why people are so eager to go on witch hunts and prolong this agony. I just want these things over and done with. I find these hackers and cheaters to be an embarrassment to our community, and the longer it takes to rid ourselves of these people (especially those who aren't completely anonymous), the worse we look overall. It was definitely a sarcastic post. Witch hunts are stupid and help no one. | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On February 10 2013 14:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Sarcasm or not (there have been several other posts similar to yours), I don't understand why people are so eager to go on witch hunts and prolong this agony. I just want these things over and done with. I find these hackers and cheaters to be an embarrassment to our community, and the longer it takes to rid ourselves of these people (especially those who aren't completely anonymous), the worse we look overall. However the more we out cast them and force these known players into hiding for obvious cheating then the less will take the risk. I might be a little too aggressive when it comes to hackers o.o | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
Players who have maphacked within recent memory(basically permanently) should not be allowed into online tourneys on the basis that there is no way to gurantee they arent cheated. They can, however, play in offline tourneys with no bad feelings. Basically, my opinion is that any smart player will realize maphacking is online play suicide | ||
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KumihO.
United States55 Posts
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ErAsc2
Sweden256 Posts
On February 10 2013 14:36 Bippzy wrote: I guess i want others opinion on the following statement: Players who have maphacked within recent memory(basically permanently) should not be allowed into online tourneys on the basis that there is no way to gurantee they arent cheated. They can, however, play in offline tourneys with no bad feelings. Basically, my opinion is that any smart player will realize maphacking is online play suicide How is it? Anybody who maphacks and gets banned can just create a new fake name and a new account. You don't need to identify yourself to claim the prizes of any online-tournament that I know of. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On February 10 2013 14:36 Bippzy wrote: I guess i want others opinion on the following statement: Players who have maphacked within recent memory(basically permanently) should not be allowed into online tourneys on the basis that there is no way to gurantee they arent cheated. They can, however, play in offline tourneys with no bad feelings. Basically, my opinion is that any smart player will realize maphacking is online play suicide Say there's a "smart player" that has been stuck in Masters forever, but he wants to be a pro gamer. He could probably realize at this rate, his only chance of playing at a "pro level" would be through cheating. That would technically be a smart choice to hack. Why? Because, whether he gets caught or not, he wasn't going to be a pro or win anything, otherwise. What difference would it make to someone if they were shunned if they would be "shunned" if they were legit, anyways? How many offline tournaments can you really attend without qualifying via online or being invited? If you're not going to let them play online or we're skeptical of their results, are we going to start inviting them to merely give them a shot to "clear their name." In a sense, still rewarding them. While you're not afraid of being cheated offline, it's hard for me to see them playing offline if they can't play in online tournaments. | ||
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Suikakuju
Germany238 Posts
Thanks for going sherlock on his ass lol | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On February 10 2013 11:29 stew_ wrote: judging by his twitter posts, i dont feel that he's very sorry for his actions... something like this should tarnish your reputation as a progamer, as well as a person in general. ya, its obvious he doesn't give a shit about what he has done, he basically sees himself a victim and that he was in the right to hack in a very arrogant way it seems. only thing he feels bad about or what he did wrong was that he got caught and he will most likely start hacking again once he thinks he found a way which he won't be detected. He just doesn't give a shit about what he has done, plain and simple. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On February 10 2013 15:43 Integra wrote: ya, its obvious he doesn't give a shit about what he has done, he basically sees himself a victim and that he was in the right to hack in a very arrogant way it seems. only thing he feels bad about or what he did wrong was that he got caught and he will most likely start hacking again once he thinks he found a way which he won't be detected. He just doesn't give a shit about what he has done, plain and simple. Yeap, he is trying to justify his actions, by calling out other previously cheating pros. Christ, reading his twitter posts is like listening to a 10 year old who is justifying his actions through the actions of his friends... | ||
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BoX
United States214 Posts
Hacking isn't like murdering someone. It's dishonorable and shitty, yeah, but if a guy gets busted and swears never to do it again.. I mean.. It's not like he hurt anyone. Edit: I agree with known hackers being restricted or very carefully scrutinized in online tournaments. He destroyed his honor, trust, and respect from the community, but if he can be good without using hacks, isn't that enough? I mean, what about Testie? | ||
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Disarmed
Austria721 Posts
So he has confirmed his cheating, but instead of an honest explanatory "come clear" post/thread he just simply asks"ok..ok..ok...you got me....how long (to be forgiven)?" Dunno. Seems kinda arrogant. As for the punishment. I really dont know. Lifelong banning seems like wayyyy overdoing it, but what is there else? Isnt banning his 2 smurf accounts equal to a 2x 50 Dollars fine? (or whatever the price for WOL is at the moment). Because that seems kinda too weak for a punishment.... | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
Play it safe. The community should have a 0 tolerance stance on map hackers. It's not like being a pro gamer is some kind of natural right; you're supposed to have chosen that as your 'career' for love and passion of the game, not for petty e-glory on battle.net ladder. This behavior is unacceptable and I hope it's the last time we ever hear of daisuki. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On February 10 2013 16:35 BoX wrote: I'm sorry but I think you guys are a wee biit excessive. Hacking isn't like murdering someone. It's dishonorable and shitty, yeah, but if a guy gets busted and swears never to do it again.. I mean.. It's not like he hurt anyone. Edit: I agree with known hackers being restricted or very carefully scrutinized in online tournaments. He destroyed his honor, trust, and respect from the community, but if he can be good without using hacks, isn't that enough? I mean, what about Testie? You must be reading Reddit or something, no one compares his map hacking with murder here and we don't say he should be in jail for it. Considering he is a pro and the way he's tweeting about this show's his mentality is very much in the wrong place and i don't see why we as a community can't point him out on that. Nothing wrong with banning the guy from let's say online tournaments for a period of time as you said. Atleast some form of punishment seems fair to me, we can't allow hacking and a simple finger pointing "pro" to say it was not his choice get away with that. Only he and time can change our perception on him as a map hacker. Hope he will look at pro's who made these mistakes in the past and learn from them. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On February 10 2013 16:35 BoX wrote: I'm sorry but I think you guys are a wee biit excessive. Hacking isn't like murdering someone. It's dishonorable and shitty, yeah, but if a guy gets busted and swears never to do it again.. I mean.. It's not like he hurt anyone. Edit: I agree with known hackers being restricted or very carefully scrutinized in online tournaments. He destroyed his honor, trust, and respect from the community, but if he can be good without using hacks, isn't that enough? I mean, what about Testie? No one is saying he is a bad person or evil, what most people are saying is that if you think hacking the ladder is fine then you probably should not consider a career as a professional gamer. And it actually hurts the integrity of SC2 as an E-sport if hackers would be accepted with such behavior. | ||
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uberism
Canada271 Posts
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