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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
February 10 2013 08:41 GMT
#641
Damn.......Excuse my language but fuck hackers....that is the one thing that really kills a game more than anything I think.........His penalty should be extreme....no forgiveness from my end...I hope he loses all sponsorships and is permabanned from everything.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 13:42:53
February 10 2013 13:42 GMT
#642
Haha this guy is so funny, what a idiot!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
February 10 2013 14:47 GMT
#643
So how exactly was he forced to cheat? Gun to the head? Was he paid to cheat? How much? I wonder what his integrity was worth.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 10 2013 14:57 GMT
#644
I love how some people always play sherlock when it comes to things like that.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
February 10 2013 15:03 GMT
#645
What kind of apology is this supposed to be?
@nowSimon
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada760 Posts
February 10 2013 15:04 GMT
#646
he hacks
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
February 10 2013 15:07 GMT
#647
Little fucks like Daisuki is what is wrong with the world.

"I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time."

If my friend tells me he has decided to kill his granny for insurance money and that he has chosen me to help him out in his plan, does that make me less of a killer when I stab that old lady because "it was a worthwhile venture at the time"?

Take responsibility you little vermin. Fuck off right to hell.
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
February 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#648
On February 11 2013 00:07 MooMu wrote:
Little fucks like Daisuki is what is wrong with the world.

"I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time."

If my friend tells me he has decided to kill his granny for insurance money and that he has chosen me to help him out in his plan, does that make me less of a killer when I stab that old lady because "it was a worthwhile venture at the time"?

Take responsibility you little vermin. Fuck off right to hell.


Manner up please, you're just about as immature as him with these unneded insults.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
February 10 2013 16:12 GMT
#649
...lol wow people sure are over reacting to this. He got caught, it's good and done. He's always going to have that 'but he hacked' going on. No need for the scum, vermin, go to hell, you're whats wrong with the world...etc etc...
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 10 2013 16:27 GMT
#650
This is just sad really.
Dzerzhinsky
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland327 Posts
February 10 2013 16:38 GMT
#651
Daisuki's Twitter is a fascinating insight into the thoughts of a cheater. It seems that in his mind he wasn't so much in the wrong for cheating as we are for bringing it up and being concerned about it. At least when other high profile players were caught/accused they ostensibly accepted the premise that cheating is wrong.
"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things coincided directly."
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#652
On February 11 2013 00:07 MooMu wrote:
Little fucks like Daisuki is what is wrong with the world.

"I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time."

If my friend tells me he has decided to kill his granny for insurance money and that he has chosen me to help him out in his plan, does that make me less of a killer when I stab that old lady because "it was a worthwhile venture at the time"?

Take responsibility you little vermin. Fuck off right to hell.


Wow, someone forgot to take their crazy pill this morning.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
SonarCannon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia25 Posts
February 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#653
Hrm, seeing a lot of BM in this thread, maphacking being compared to killing grandmothers and whatnot.

Bottom line is, completely unacceptable actions and he should probably suck up not being accepted into the community for the much forseeable future.
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
February 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#654
On February 11 2013 01:38 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Daisuki's Twitter is a fascinating insight into the thoughts of a cheater. It seems that in his mind he wasn't so much in the wrong for cheating as we are for bringing it up and being concerned about it. At least when other high profile players were caught/accused they ostensibly accepted the premise that cheating is wrong.

this pretty much hits the nail right on the head - the hacker kid is still in denial, he somehow thinks everyone else is at fault for discovering the cheating and being angry at him

people like this, when they say "it will never happen again!" - what they actually mean, is that they won't be CAUGHT again!
since that's the issue he believes is causing the problem, the catching-of the cheating, not the actual cheating itself...
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 17:14:30
February 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#655
He deserves it. His dodge is infuriating and I see it too much in life.

Edit: And now he lists names on his twitter after he says he won't "call out people without being sure". Don't worry though, he doesn't know who cheats or not, but here are names anyways.
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
February 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#656
On February 11 2013 01:49 SonarCannon wrote:
Hrm, seeing a lot of BM in this thread, maphacking being compared to killing grandmothers and whatnot.

Bottom line is, completely unacceptable actions and he should probably suck up not being accepted into the community for the much forseeable future.


It's not a comparison of form but of method. Big difference.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 10 2013 17:16 GMT
#657
IMO a lifetime ban is unreasonable. 1 or 2 year ban seems more in proportion to the offense.
J_Slim
Profile Joined May 2011
United States199 Posts
February 10 2013 17:17 GMT
#658
On February 10 2013 16:35 BoX wrote:
I'm sorry but I think you guys are a wee biit excessive.

Hacking isn't like murdering someone. It's dishonorable and shitty, yeah, but if a guy gets busted and swears never to do it again.. I mean.. It's not like he hurt anyone.

Edit: I agree with known hackers being restricted or very carefully scrutinized in online tournaments.

He destroyed his honor, trust, and respect from the community, but if he can be good without using hacks, isn't that enough?

I mean, what about Testie?


No, not like murder at all. More like stealing, which is also illegal and carries penalties.

If he advanced in any tournament by cheating, then he, in essence, stole the opportunity to advance from the other player.
If someone has stolen money from a cash register before, but he is real good at math and customer service, will a retail store let him keep running register? No.
Legalize it!
SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 17:26:19
February 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#659
On February 10 2013 13:02 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 12:26 Goibon wrote:
On February 10 2013 12:19 vesicular wrote:
If the punishment for hacking was more severe, there would be less hackers.

Aye, people need to be made examples of or the message will not sink in and this bullshit will continue.


Except the vast majority of hackers aren't seeking a professional career, and the amount of professionals that have hacked recently is exactly 2.
The amount that got caught you mean. Both of whom made almost no attempt to hide it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that the two who got caught happened to be ridiculously transparent and bad at covering tracks implies there are more out there who are just better at hiding. The hack shows the production tab, it shows the vision box of your enemy on the minimap, it shows the full minimap. It pings you whenever a drop comes into your vision, it alerts you when you should make supply stuff. Basically you can use it to greatly enhance your play without even turning the fog of war off. And yes, the hack can configure all these things. You should watch a stream of people who use this stuff, some hackers just stream themselves hacking to troll people. It's silly the extend to which you can enhance your play without even turning the fog of war off, let alone peaking into it. You can get away with so much without looking suspicious in the slightest.

Anyhow, if you lifetime ban someone from hacking under thusfar only established promotional account for sponsors whcih were meant to be levelled into GM. You can certainly ban Dimaga, TT1, F91, testie, you name it from esports forever. What they did was far worse than this. Or how about people who get their account levelled or perform such services? Letting another person on my account to fake GM status possibly gives me even more of an unfair advantage than hacking. I'm pretty sure paying some Korean pro ends up getting my account higher than using a hack. So let's ban any pro who ever shared accounts or pros who engaged in account boosting for life amirite? Dual standards much?
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
LF[Media]
Profile Joined February 2013
United States58 Posts
February 10 2013 17:26 GMT
#660
Daisuki, a word of advice, you might want to Bill Clinton this shit. Noone will ever believe any excuse you come up with, and the best possible PR move you could ever make would be just to admit to everything, take full responsibility, apologize, and then hope you can move on.
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