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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
Anyway, just so you all know, Slipspace was -clearly- making a funny. Also, I don't know why a mod would give that poor guy asking to have Slipspace banned got a warning. He's basically saying the same thing as the other 10 people who took Slipspace seriously. You should have pity on him for not realizing the joke. Back on track here. I recall seeing some form of response from Daisuke, if OP could go find that and add it to the front page, because many people may not have read it. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
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1Dhalism
862 Posts
On February 10 2013 11:54 docvoc wrote: Motives here are obvious, more recognition for him (thus the sponsor) more people want to be tutored by him. More people want him to play with them. Basically their are many reasons to do this from a sponosr perspective. He was already a great player without them so I doubt this is on his end, that said I'm awaiting his response. There are no motives. There are hundereds of players as good as Daisuki who NITRIX couldve thrown their money at. If you have trouble reading between the lines, what Daisuki says is "My contract had a performance clause, I had no choice, I have (a family) myself to feed!" | ||
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EvanC
Canada130 Posts
On February 11 2013 04:14 Blargh wrote: Back on track here. I recall seeing some form of response from Daisuke, if OP could go find that and add it to the front page, because many people may not have read it. It was added to the front page. Here it is again for those who missed it (I was looking around earlier myself): On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote: First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP. And so forth... I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago. I apologize for that. I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS) “Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.” I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again! | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On February 11 2013 04:27 1Dhalism wrote: There are no motives. There are hundereds of players as good as Daisuki who NITRIX couldve thrown their money at. If you have trouble reading between the lines, what Daisuki says is "My contract had a performance clause, I had no choice, I have (a family) myself to feed!" Disagreeing with the motives is not the same thing as there aren't being any. They could be bad motives, but motives none the less. Doesn't excuse Daisuki in any way though. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
He admitted "hacking", I think 6 months ~ 1 year ban is suitable. Although him asking how long "tournament hackers take to get forgiven" is incredibly sketchy in and of itself. For his sake, let's hope he didn't hack in tournaments. | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
On February 11 2013 02:46 Sea_Food wrote: Good job at over reacting. I know atleast 10 current popular pro gamers that have been caught secretly hacking/cheating in the past but nobody cares anymore, as nobody should. Its just a game. lol ? so lets all cheat and hack and not care is just a game . are you seriously ? how would your feeling be when you lost a game where you gave it your best and then you see the guy just map hacked ? damn i wish ppl would play more the game and actualy understand how bad it feels to get cheated . | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4341 Posts
Edit: At least he manned up and is owning his decisions. That takes guts to do and I hope this becomes a bigger motivation for him to become a better player. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 11 2013 04:14 Blargh wrote: I can't tell if basically EVERYONE thought he was being serious or if EVERYONE is trolling, acting as if they care but really don't. Anyway, just so you all know, Slipspace was -clearly- making a funny. Also, I don't know why a mod would give that poor guy asking to have Slipspace banned got a warning. He's basically saying the same thing as the other 10 people who took Slipspace seriously. You should have pity on him for not realizing the joke. Back on track here. I recall seeing some form of response from Daisuke, if OP could go find that and add it to the front page, because many people may not have read it. Unless you are a comedian, joking about suicide is a very bad idea. Even worse on the internet when you can't spot sarcasm in the tone. | ||
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HappyTimePANDA
United States167 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote: A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter Because it still ruins the experience for all those that play on it..? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote: A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter I don't think he ever said that ladder doesn't matter. And if it doesn't matter, why hack at all? | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:02 FabledIntegral wrote: Because it still ruins the experience for all those that play on it..? But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote: A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter Your comment is absolutely terrible. Its really sad you can downplay someone who actively cheats at the game. If daisukis sponsors are paying him to win games, then using cheats to do it shows how scummy some people can be. On February 11 2013 06:04 Shiori wrote: But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO. Yes he should be. If every progamer or top player listened to you, then they would all just hack on ladder and only compete in tournaments. That alone would ruin the entire online experience for many players, especially those not attending tournaments yet, and are trying to break out or improve. All you would have are top players cheating on the ladder. What you are stating is REALLY REALLY terrible. | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:04 Shiori wrote: But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO. How do you tell if he hacked in tournies? This community wants proof beyond any doubt before they declare anyone guilty of hacking, and it would be very hard to gather the amount of tournament replays of daisuki to prove whether or not he hacked in tournaments. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote: A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter Regardless of whether or not ladder 'matters' (lots of pros will say they practice 95% on ladder, but some others don't bother with it at all), how can he be trusted to not play with maphacks in online tournaments after this? He was getting paid to level those accounts with his sponsor's name in it, and instead of doing it legitimately he used maphacks for easy money. What's to stop him from using them again for some more easy money in online tournaments? If you want to trust and defend someone who doesn't even seem sorry or remorseful for his actions, that's your prerogative however. But I know that I wouldn't want to play him in online tournaments until either Blizzard renders the current wave of maphacks obsolete or he is streaming with webcams set up so that he couldn't be cheating. | ||
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iS.Mike
37 Posts
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HappyTimePANDA
United States167 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:07 eXigent. wrote: Your comment is absolutely terrible. Its really sad you can downplay someone who actively cheats at the game. If daisukis sponsors are paying him to win games, then using cheats to do it shows how scummy some people can be. Yes he should be. If every progamer or top player listened to you, then they would all just hack on ladder and only compete in tournaments. That alone would ruin the entire online experience for many players, especially those not attending tournaments yet, and are trying to break out or improve. All you would have are top players cheating on the ladder. What you are stating is REALLY REALLY terrible. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:04 Shiori wrote: But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO. That depends on the tournament organizers. However since he has a bad name atm allowing him in your tournament will give bad feedback as "the tournament that allows hackers". Most likely no tournament will want to get close to him at least for a couple months. | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
First off he was not even hiding the hacking (which means he ll get caught 100%) and second he seems to be a decent player without any hacks (unlike the 60apm scrubs that try to make it into gm by hacking). So why the hell would you maphack when you are have a reputation to lose and and you know that you ll get caught anyway, this hurts my brain... On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote: Because people cheat and I don't really see the need in getting all worked up over something so insignificant. Different viewpoint but I don't understand the people who sit around analyzing replays for "OH HE CHEATED!!" who cares? does it affect your life in any way? Think of it as playing on hard mode, just get good enough to beat the hacker. And it seems like his sponsor sort of forced him into it by requiring a certain ranking. The only problem I have is his lack of hiding it, if you are going to cheat at something don't get caught but again just my opinion. If it would be "no big deal" and if nobody would get worked up then a lot more people will cheat because even if it surfaces nobody would give a fuck if we all consider it minor because it doesnt affect our life. | ||
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