EPTWCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 36
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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HoMM
Estonia636 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote: Because people cheat and I don't really see the need in getting all worked up over something so insignificant. Different viewpoint but I don't understand the people who sit around analyzing replays for "OH HE CHEATED!!" who cares? The integrity of the games online competive scene is important. People getting banned and outed for hacking further discourages this kind of shit from happening. On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote: Think of it as playing on hard mode, just get good enough to beat the hacker. This statement is absolutely ridiculous. If he is good enough to get 2nd in WCS without hacks then he is already a player with notable skill. Now, lets assume you are playing in an online tourney and first place is $1000. Do you really think "get good enough to beat a high level player who has unfair advantage using maphack and should win 99,9% of games vs people that have equal mechanical skill as him"? On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote: And it seems like his sponsor sort of forced him into it by requiring a certain ranking. I didn't see this mentioned anywhere but also he was maphacking on other accounts too to boost them, not only the GM accounts he owned. On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote: The only problem I have is his lack of hiding it, if you are going to cheat at something don't get caught but again just my opinion. You are just as bad as him if you don't see anything wrong with what he did. | ||
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ProTech
United States535 Posts
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote: First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP. And so forth... I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago. I apologize for that. I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS) “Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.” I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again! Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:50 ProTech wrote: Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that. If you check the automated ban list he's already banned. | ||
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LF[Media]
United States58 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:50 ProTech wrote: Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that. They banned him, they just waited a little bit to see if he followed up on bold part. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote: The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_- So you are saying that TL.Net admins, the tournament owners and Blizzard are hackers? They are the ones who are going to do the worst possible thing by actually banning him and preventing him from communicating to the community or playing the game in any shape or form  | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote: The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_- The thing is, as a good player you sometimes "feel" something is wrong because you know how regular opponents play, how they scout how they react and if you then face a maphacker you are asking yourself about his decisions, his lack of scouting etc. So the way a hacker plays is different from a person who doesnt hack, then you have to collect evidence if you got this "feeling". IN this case it was really easy because he wasnt even trying to hide it, if this guy would be a regular hacker on the ladder 2-3 replays would be enough to confirm him as a hacker instead of this bullet proof post the OP made, you dont have to be a detective to see he is clearly maphacking. It was acutally really easy to see that. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3825 Posts
On February 11 2013 04:14 Blargh wrote: I can't tell if basically EVERYONE thought he was being serious or if EVERYONE is trolling, acting as if they care but really don't. Anyway, just so you all know, Slipspace was -clearly- making a funny. Also, I don't know why a mod would give that poor guy asking to have Slipspace banned got a warning. He's basically saying the same thing as the other 10 people who took Slipspace seriously. You should have pity on him for not realizing the joke. Back on track here. I recall seeing some form of response from Daisuke, if OP could go find that and add it to the front page, because many people may not have read it. Backseat moderating is frowned upon here on TL as far as I can tell. If you have an issue with a post, you report it (I believe you need 1000 posts for that button to appear or something) and then leave it for the mods to "cast judgement". Great system which seems to work pretty well  | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:07 eXigent. wrote: Your comment is absolutely terrible. Its really sad you can downplay someone who actively cheats at the game. If daisukis sponsors are paying him to win games, then using cheats to do it shows how scummy some people can be. Yes he should be. If every progamer or top player listened to you, then they would all just hack on ladder and only compete in tournaments. That alone would ruin the entire online experience for many players, especially those not attending tournaments yet, and are trying to break out or improve. All you would have are top players cheating on the ladder. What you are stating is REALLY REALLY terrible. Somehow me asking a question turned into stating something terrible. Newsflash kiddo: I didn't state anything. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On February 11 2013 07:19 Shiori wrote: Somehow me asking a question turned into stating something terrible. Newsflash kiddo: I didn't state anything. ...if you asked a question... did you not do it in a statement? | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote: The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_- how about hating injustice? I seriously HATE injustice, everytime I read about it in any form, it makes me cringe. by the way, so does your flawed logic. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
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sekalf
Sweden522 Posts
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote: The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_- Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On February 11 2013 07:43 sekalf wrote: Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest All the detectives wasting time trying to catch murderers are probably murderers themselves... Makes sense. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On February 11 2013 08:33 Dosey wrote: All the detectives wasting time trying to catch murderers are probably murderers themselves... Makes sense. the world is nothing but Dexter's!!!! | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
It's true, I've seen this on TV! | ||
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