• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:19
CEST 00:19
KST 07:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1388 users

WCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 36

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 49 Next All
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
February 10 2013 21:33 GMT
#701
RatZDaisuki coming up!
the throws never bothered me anyway
HoMM
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia635 Posts
February 10 2013 21:37 GMT
#702
On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Because people cheat and I don't really see the need in getting all worked up over something so insignificant. Different viewpoint but I don't understand the people who sit around analyzing replays for "OH HE CHEATED!!" who cares?


The integrity of the games online competive scene is important. People getting banned and outed for hacking further discourages this kind of shit from happening.

On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Think of it as playing on hard mode, just get good enough to beat the hacker.


This statement is absolutely ridiculous. If he is good enough to get 2nd in WCS without hacks then he is already a player with notable skill. Now, lets assume you are playing in an online tourney and first place is $1000. Do you really think "get good enough to beat a high level player who has unfair advantage using maphack and should win 99,9% of games vs people that have equal mechanical skill as him"?

On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
And it seems like his sponsor sort of forced him into it by requiring a certain ranking.


I didn't see this mentioned anywhere but also he was maphacking on other accounts too to boost them, not only the GM accounts he owned.

On February 11 2013 06:24 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
The only problem I have is his lack of hiding it, if you are going to cheat at something don't get caught but again just my opinion.


You are just as bad as him if you don't see anything wrong with what he did.
SC2 Masters Protoss - LoL Diamond adc/support www.twitter.com/hommlol www.youtube.com/homm87
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
February 10 2013 21:50 GMT
#703
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!



Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 10 2013 21:50 GMT
#704
On February 11 2013 06:50 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!



Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that.


If you check the automated ban list he's already banned.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
LF[Media]
Profile Joined February 2013
United States58 Posts
February 10 2013 21:57 GMT
#705
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-

User was banned for this post.
<3 ZOWiE Gear <3
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
February 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#706
On February 11 2013 06:50 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!



Why wouldn't team liquid just ban this guy from the site? He's openly admitted to map hacking, and last I checked that's not welcome here. Come on guys, just because he * claims * that he doesn't use cheats in online or offline tournaments doesn't mean anything. If you're willing to hack / cheat on the ladder then you're willing to do it in a online tournament as well. I'm willing to bet money on that.

They banned him, they just waited a little bit to see if he followed up on bold part.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 22:07:56
February 10 2013 22:07 GMT
#707
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-

So you are saying that TL.Net admins, the tournament owners and Blizzard are hackers? They are the ones who are going to do the worst possible thing by actually banning him and preventing him from communicating to the community or playing the game in any shape or form
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 22:13:44
February 10 2013 22:12 GMT
#708
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-



The thing is, as a good player you sometimes "feel" something is wrong because you know how regular opponents play, how they scout how they react and if you then face a maphacker you are asking yourself about his decisions, his lack of scouting etc. So the way a hacker plays is different from a person who doesnt hack, then you have to collect evidence if you got this "feeling". IN this case it was really easy because he wasnt even trying to hide it, if this guy would be a regular hacker on the ladder 2-3 replays would be enough to confirm him as a hacker instead of this bullet proof post the OP made, you dont have to be a detective to see he is clearly maphacking. It was acutally really easy to see that.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
February 10 2013 22:13 GMT
#709
On February 11 2013 04:14 Blargh wrote:
I can't tell if basically EVERYONE thought he was being serious or if EVERYONE is trolling, acting as if they care but really don't.

Anyway, just so you all know, Slipspace was -clearly- making a funny.
Also, I don't know why a mod would give that poor guy asking to have Slipspace banned got a warning. He's basically saying the same thing as the other 10 people who took Slipspace seriously. You should have pity on him for not realizing the joke.


Back on track here. I recall seeing some form of response from Daisuke, if OP could go find that and add it to the front page, because many people may not have read it.


Backseat moderating is frowned upon here on TL as far as I can tell. If you have an issue with a post, you report it (I believe you need 1000 posts for that button to appear or something) and then leave it for the mods to "cast judgement". Great system which seems to work pretty well
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
February 10 2013 22:19 GMT
#710
On February 11 2013 06:07 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter


Your comment is absolutely terrible. Its really sad you can downplay someone who actively cheats at the game. If daisukis sponsors are paying him to win games, then using cheats to do it shows how scummy some people can be.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 06:04 Shiori wrote:
On February 11 2013 06:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter


Because it still ruins the experience for all those that play on it..?

But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO.


Yes he should be. If every progamer or top player listened to you, then they would all just hack on ladder and only compete in tournaments. That alone would ruin the entire online experience for many players, especially those not attending tournaments yet, and are trying to break out or improve. All you would have are top players cheating on the ladder. What you are stating is REALLY REALLY terrible.

Somehow me asking a question turned into stating something terrible. Newsflash kiddo: I didn't state anything.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 10 2013 22:22 GMT
#711
On February 11 2013 07:19 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 06:07 eXigent. wrote:
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter


Your comment is absolutely terrible. Its really sad you can downplay someone who actively cheats at the game. If daisukis sponsors are paying him to win games, then using cheats to do it shows how scummy some people can be.

On February 11 2013 06:04 Shiori wrote:
On February 11 2013 06:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
On February 11 2013 05:59 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
A long as he doesn't hack in tournies who cares? I'm with him on the fact that ladder doesn't really matter


Because it still ruins the experience for all those that play on it..?

But should he be banned from tournies if he never hacked in tournies and, in fact, did quite well? That's the real question IMO.


Yes he should be. If every progamer or top player listened to you, then they would all just hack on ladder and only compete in tournaments. That alone would ruin the entire online experience for many players, especially those not attending tournaments yet, and are trying to break out or improve. All you would have are top players cheating on the ladder. What you are stating is REALLY REALLY terrible.

Somehow me asking a question turned into stating something terrible. Newsflash kiddo: I didn't state anything.

...if you asked a question... did you not do it in a statement?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
February 10 2013 22:23 GMT
#712
That bunker part looks especially damning.
esports
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
February 10 2013 22:36 GMT
#713
Should IP ban him and never invite him to anything anymore. Doesn't matter if it's "just ladder" - Clearly he is ruining the fun of others and damaging the community.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 22:37:29
February 10 2013 22:37 GMT
#714
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-


how about hating injustice? I seriously HATE injustice, everytime I read about it in any form, it makes me cringe.

by the way, so does your flawed logic.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 10 2013 22:37 GMT
#715
Jesus, could someone tell Daisuki to at least stop twittering, what he writes isn't exactly helping him since it sounds like he is totally egocentric and that he doesn't seem to understand what he has done. -.-
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 10 2013 22:41 GMT
#716
Any word from his sponsor?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
sekalf
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden522 Posts
February 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#717
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-


Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
February 10 2013 23:33 GMT
#718
On February 11 2013 07:43 sekalf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-


Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest

All the detectives wasting time trying to catch murderers are probably murderers themselves...

Makes sense.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 10 2013 23:36 GMT
#719
On February 11 2013 08:33 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 07:43 sekalf wrote:
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-


Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest

All the detectives wasting time trying to catch murderers are probably murderers themselves...

Makes sense.

the world is nothing but Dexter's!!!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 10 2013 23:39 GMT
#720
On February 11 2013 08:36 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 08:33 Dosey wrote:
On February 11 2013 07:43 sekalf wrote:
On February 11 2013 06:57 LF[Media] wrote:
The people hardest on the hackers who go all balls-out to find evidence in detective mode are probably hackers themselves; what other motivation could one have to spend so much damn free time on it? -_-


Of all the facepalming posts in this thread, this has to be the most facepalmingest

All the detectives wasting time trying to catch murderers are probably murderers themselves...

Makes sense.

the world is nothing but Dexter's!!!!

It's true, I've seen this on TV!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 49 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech134
NeuroSwarm 132
JuggernautJason100
CosmosSc2 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 47
NaDa 12
Dota 2
canceldota208
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv3356
kRYSTAL_48
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0240
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor187
Other Games
summit1g10810
Grubby3086
FrodaN1310
shahzam670
Liquid`Hasu138
ZombieGrub61
Mew2King60
Liquid`Ken6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 74
• musti20045 34
• Hinosc 32
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21083
Other Games
• imaqtpie1316
• Scarra636
• Shiphtur161
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
10h 41m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 41m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.