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On February 08 2013 23:25 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 23:19 Ryder. wrote:On February 08 2013 23:17 Kakaru2 wrote:
YES you can have more accounts per same email.
You can have:
1 NA
1 EU
1 CN
1 SEA
1 KR
1 TW
1 Latin America (if you bought it at start)
Can you count now the accounts LOST?
FFS I will state this once more as simple as I can. You still have the same number of accounts. The same! With global play you can play on NA, EU, CN, SEA, KR, TW and Latin America using the 1 email address. This is EXACTLY the same as what you could do before. You aren't losing anything! What part of this is so hard for you to understand? 1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on one account, and after Global Play he only has 1 copy left. 1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on ten accounts, and after Global Play he has 10 copies left. Exactly the same thing, Ryderlogic ftw
Unfortunately you repeating the same flawed logic isn't strengthening your argument. Person 1 has the option to play on 10 different servers under the same email address (effectively 10 accounts) just like before, and Blizzard doesn't give a shit if you don't think its 'fair' because you haven't lost anything. Read my edit, I'm done bickering with you.
Buying an account and buying the ability to play on a particular server is one and the same thing before global play. You aren't entitled to a refund just because circumstances change. Just be happy you don't have to purchase HOTS for all your different servers ffs, and stop expecting life to throw you freebies all the time.
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So you're assuming that Blizzard will merge all your Starcraft 2 accounts on the same battle.net account into one...why exactly?
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I wonder what people will do with multiple sc2 accounts ( different emails ).. Atleast they can still trade them with other peole
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OMG, there's a saying around here, if one guy tells you you're drunk you have the right to doubt that. When more people tell you you're drunk then you fuckin go to bed because you are drunk.
How more simple do we all need to explain it to you, Ryder?
A buys an SC2 for 50 USD. He now has 1 account. He can play on only ONE server.
Global play comes and A can now plays on ALL servers.
B buys 2 SC2 for 100 USD. One for US and one for EU. he registers them to 1@gmail.com and 2@gmail.com. He now has 2 accounts.
Global play comes and B can now plays on ALL servers on BOTH 1@gmail.com AND 2@gmail.com. He now has 2 TWO accounts.
C buys 2 SC2 for 100 USD. One for US and one for EU. He registers them on same email 1@gmail.com. He now has 2 accounts.
Global play comes and C can now plays on ALL servers on ONE SINGLE FUCKING ACCOUNT 1@gmail.com. He now has 1 ONE account only.
We are not comparing A to C. We are talking about B and C. If you are the A person and are full of envy why we bought 2 accounts then please stop talking.
We paid 2/3/4 accounts and now we want the SAME as B. 2/3/4 accounts. OR CALL THEM EMAILS if accounts somehow make you nervous. AND these are WOL accounts, if we want to buy HOTS for all of the emails or just for one this is our problem not yours.
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Right now the accounts are not merged, I can still log into EU with 2 screennames from the same email.
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On February 08 2013 23:35 Kakaru2 wrote:
OMG, there's a saying around here, if one guy tells you you're drunk you have the right to doubt that. When more people tell you you're drunk then you fuckin go to bed because you are drunk.
How more simple do we all need to explain it to you, Ryder?
A buys an SC2 for 50 USD. He now has 1 account. He can play on only ONE server.
Global play comes and A can now plays on ALL servers.
B buys 2 SC2 for 100 USD. One for US and one for EU. he registers them to 1@gmail.com and 2@gmail.com. He now has 2 accounts.
Global play comes and B can now plays on ALL servers on BOTH 1@gmail.com AND 2@gmail.com. He now has 2 TWO accounts.
C buys 2 SC2 for 100 USD. One for US and one for EU. He registers them on same email 1@gmail.com. He now has 2 accounts.
Global play comes and C can now plays on ALL servers on ONE SINGLE FUCKING ACCOUNT 1@gmail.com. He now has 1 ONE account only.
We are not comparing A to C. We are talking about B and C. If you are the A person and are full of envy why we bought 2 accounts then please stop talking.
We paid 2/3/4 accounts and now we want the SAME as B. 2/3/4 accounts. OR CALL THEM EMAILS is accounts somehow make nervous. AND these are WOL accounts, if we want to buy HOTS for all of th emails or just for one this is our problem not yours.
Why can't person C play on both accounts, given that when logging in he would have a dropdown to chose between SC#1 and SC#2, the same it is for every other game you have multiple copies of in battle.net?
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To be honest I can't help but feel that if they OP hadn't phrased it as "we paid extra, give us free stuff" and saying free copies of their new game is "reasonable" then there wouldn't be such a huge argument going on.
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Because for SC2 that option is NOT yet introduced. This is EXACTLY what we are asking Blizzard for, not some freebies that Ryder guy keep inventing we supposedly want.
He is stuck up in his A vs C rhetoric when we are discussing B vs C case.
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It was a terrible model to begin with, blizzard dropped the ball so many times with the rationale of sc2 dropping core features from sc1 missing chat channels, missing replay sharing, multi region, free account names, simple custom game. Personally I only owe one copy but I believe they must compensate those that paid extra and a free HotS upgrade seems fair or bnet credit to the account at the least.
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It all boils down to the most likely scenario being If you have multiple copies of WoL on your battle.net ID, you're likely going to be able to login to both of those accounts come the official global play merger. You wont be receiving any money, you wont be getting any apologies, that's simply business.
There's no "taking it up the ass" there's no "we're getting hoodwinked!" it's simply business. You don't have to like it, but I guarantee the combined apathy of the silent majority will be a huge factor in their decision.
I for one don't feel that there is anything wrong with what's going on, and I'm insulted if you feel that my belief involves me "sitting there and taking it up the ass". You're more than welcome to believe that they're doing something shady, but that's about all there is to it. There's plenty of precedent showing that what they're doing is fine.
To top it all off, we don't even know for certain what they're doing. There's so much complaining and anger going on when we aren't even certain what exactly they'll do.
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On February 08 2013 23:09 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 23:00 Conti wrote:On February 08 2013 22:58 Ryder. wrote:On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.
Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.
I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing. You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else. Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing. Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Global play comes along. Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy per region. Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies per region. Hey, maybe if I repeat myself often enough, people will figure out what this is all actually about? One can hope.. Actually in your first scenario 'Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies' he actually only has 1 WoL copy, just on 2 different regions. After global play, he still only has 1 WoL copy, and still only has it on 2 regions. The fact that paid for 2 back in 2010 is irrelevant, he has enjoyed the benefits of multiple servers for the last 2 years and he isn't losing anything. What happens to the person B who bought 2 different copies on 2 different email addresses doesn't actually affect person A, since A is in the same position before and after the introduction.
Yeah. And if Blizzard bans your account today for no apparent reason, my account will be in the same position as before. So Blizzard banning you for no reason is perfectly fine. Perfect logic right there.
On February 09 2013 00:16 Noobity wrote:
It all boils down to the most likely scenario being If you have multiple copies of WoL on your battle.net ID, you're likely going to be able to login to both of those accounts come the official global play merger. You wont be receiving any money, you wont be getting any apologies, that's simply business.
And that's all people are asking for.
On February 09 2013 00:16 Noobity wrote:
There's no "taking it up the ass" there's no "we're getting hoodwinked!" it's simply business. You don't have to like it, but I guarantee the combined apathy of the silent majority will be a huge factor in their decision.
And that's precisely why people should not be quiet about this, and not being quiet about this should be supported until we know for sure that things work out.
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On February 08 2013 23:00 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 22:58 Ryder. wrote:On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.
Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.
I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing. You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else. Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing. Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Global play comes along. Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy per region. Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies per region. Hey, maybe if I repeat myself often enough, people will figure out what this is all actually about? One can hope..
Question: Did person A buy a separate WoL copy in order to play in another region and did person B buy a separate WoL copy in order to have a smurf account? If yes, then both still get what they wished for after global play and there shouldn't be a problem.
(serious question, since I have no clue how this multiregioning and smurf accounting worked)
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On February 09 2013 00:55 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 23:00 Conti wrote:On February 08 2013 22:58 Ryder. wrote:On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.
Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.
I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing. You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else. Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing. Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies. Global play comes along. Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy per region. Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies per region. Hey, maybe if I repeat myself often enough, people will figure out what this is all actually about? One can hope.. Question: Did person A buy a separate WoL copy in order to play in another region and did person B buy a separate WoL copy in order to have a smurf account? If yes, then both still get what they wished for after global play and there shouldn't be a problem. (serious question, since I have no clue how this multiregioning and smurf accounting worked)
A lot of people combined the two and bought a separate WoL account to smurf on a new region (might as well get a new region for the money), though I'm not sure how the intentions should matter here. What should matter is that everyone should end up with exactly as many accounts as they originally bought.
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On February 08 2013 23:28 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 23:25 n0ise wrote:On February 08 2013 23:19 Ryder. wrote:On February 08 2013 23:17 Kakaru2 wrote:
YES you can have more accounts per same email.
You can have:
1 NA
1 EU
1 CN
1 SEA
1 KR
1 TW
1 Latin America (if you bought it at start)
Can you count now the accounts LOST?
FFS I will state this once more as simple as I can. You still have the same number of accounts. The same! With global play you can play on NA, EU, CN, SEA, KR, TW and Latin America using the 1 email address. This is EXACTLY the same as what you could do before. You aren't losing anything! What part of this is so hard for you to understand? 1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on one account, and after Global Play he only has 1 copy left. 1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on ten accounts, and after Global Play he has 10 copies left. Exactly the same thing, Ryderlogic ftw Unfortunately you repeating the same flawed logic isn't strengthening your argument. Person 1 has the option to play on 10 different servers under the same email address (effectively 10 accounts) just like before, and Blizzard doesn't give a shit if you don't think its 'fair' because you haven't lost anything. Read my edit, I'm done bickering with you. Buying an account and buying the ability to play on a particular server is one and the same thing before global play. You aren't entitled to a refund just because circumstances change. Just be happy you don't have to purchase HOTS for all your different servers ffs, and stop expecting life to throw you freebies all the time.
You still don't get it do you? It isn't flawed logic. How about we do it like this....
1) Say I buy 10 copies of WoL and register them to one email address. Blizzard is effectively saying that I now own ONE copy of the game and saying the other 9 don't exist and can play on all servers.
2) Say I buy just ONE copy of WoL and register it to one email address. Blizzard is of course saying that I own ONE copy of the game and I can play on all of the servers.
3) Now, if I buy 10 copies of WoL and register them each to their own separate e-mail addresses, Blizzard is now saying that I still own all 10 copies. But they can play on all servers on EVERY email address that is registered.
Do you see where the problem is now? The guy in scenario one BOUGHT the same number of copies of the game, but Blizzard is ONLY letting them use ONE account because they registered them to ONE email. Thats why people want their money back.
Imagine if you bought 10 apples and put them in one basket, then someone else bought 10 apples and put them all in their own individual basket. Now imagine that someone tells you that you can only eat one apple per basket. One guy gets to eat all 10, while you can only eat one EVEN THOUGH YOU PAID FOR 10!
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Maybe we could get a feat of strength? Also, I can have one ladder-account for each race!
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I actually have a US account with all my games, a seperate EU account on a seperate email as well as a seperate KR account on a seperate email. So now I have 3 accounts that can access any region, I'm not pissed at all, I will probably just sell them if anything.
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We've used theese accounts for 2 years. There's no lifetime guaranties.
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Lol at the fact that this is even an issue.... do people feel entitled to reimbursement for every lol decision they make? (buying another account just for regional access? just borrow from a friend imo)
You pay the price in more ways than one get over it.
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On February 08 2013 23:28 Ryder. wrote:
Unfortunately you repeating the same flawed logic isn't strengthening your argument. Person 1 has the option to play on 10 different servers under the same email address (effectively 10 accounts) just like before, and Blizzard doesn't give a shit if you don't think its 'fair' because you haven't lost anything. Read my edit, I'm done bickering with you.
Buying an account and buying the ability to play on a particular server is one and the same thing before global play. You aren't entitled to a refund just because circumstances change. Just be happy you don't have to purchase HOTS for all your different servers ffs, and stop expecting life to throw you freebies all the time.
You wanna talk about flawed logic?
You login via your EMAIL associated to your Bnet account and password respectively .... how the HELL do you have the option to access 10 accounts with these login credentials ??? do you work for Blizzard? are they adding the option to select profiles and accounts? if so this is news to me and i would have you quote the official word if you are not with Blizz.
I ask this because if it is 1 single client, and i pick region and then login how exactly under the current system do i select which of the 10 accounts i wish to use? or are you just talking out your arse and making this stuff up while making statements like "flawed logic" when yours is just stupid?
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I think people should stop freaking out until Blizzard made an official release note on WoL global play.
It is true now you only have 1 copy of WoL under your B.net account.
For me it went from WoL (US), WoL(TW) into WoL (Global) two copies to one. However, when I logged into my HotS beta, I still had the choice of logging in as two different identity. Maybe they will do the same thing for WoL when global play is officially released.
Eitherway, Blizzard probably will not refund our money, but its not hard for them to e-mail us a code to redeem another WoL account under a different e-mail.
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