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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 08 2013 09:12 GMT
#181
On February 08 2013 13:30 BlackGosu wrote:
you guys had the luxury of playing on multiple regions before global play. so no, you guys shouldnt deserve anything


On February 08 2013 13:31 Noobity wrote:
Think of it this way, you purchase a game, 6 months later they start giving that game away with the system you purchased it for. That doesn't make you entitled to a free copy of the game, or equivalent monetary value.


On February 08 2013 13:41 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
Lol @ freebie logics
You get what you pay for at the time that you get it, you can complain all you want later no one owes you anything.
At the same time this does not stop blizzard from doing nice gestures, but don't act like you deserve it


On February 08 2013 13:49 Grobyc wrote:
Yeah I'm gonna agree with everyone saying "you bought it however long ago and have been using and appreciating it since, it wasn't worthless"

So what if it's worthless when HotS comes out, no need to penny pinch when you've already gotten use out of it. It's like buying a pizza from Domino's and eating 3/4 of it then returning the last 1/4 and saying "I didn't really like it".


Is this real life?

On February 08 2013 15:46 Conti wrote:
Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Global play comes along.

Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies.

Get it now?


Thanks for your post, but if statistics prove anything, it still won't clear anything for most people who barely read 1 out of 10 words.

If anyone had any ticket-responses on this issue, let us know here. Cheers
Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
February 08 2013 09:44 GMT
#182
Well people just assume that Blizzard does not implement something in Global Play for accounts with two licences so u can use them both. Global Play isn't even released yet officially
Thune
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 10:09:21
February 08 2013 10:08 GMT
#183
I have the same problem and asked the support if i should make a new account and add there the key or if i should add the second key to the same account: their answer back then (about 1,5yrs back): I should add it to the same account since they dont plan on implementing global play.

Obviously i lold pretty hard a few weeks back when they finally added global play. -.-
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 08 2013 11:25 GMT
#184
How many people are honestly planning on spending much time in WoL when HoTS comes out, this won't really matter will it?
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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 12:42:12
February 08 2013 12:40 GMT
#185
On February 08 2013 15:46 Conti wrote:
Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Global play comes along.

Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies.

Get it now?


This doesn't make any sense. Both people will have 2 WoL copies, but Person A will have them both on the same battle.net account.
It's the same as with poeple who have multiple WoW accounts, when you login you can choose which game account you want to use.
Person B would have the ability to give away his second battle.net account but this isn't allowed anyway.

If you want to transfer one of your copies because you don't need it anymore you have to call Blizzard and ask if they'll do it.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/sc2eula.html
No Transfer or Sublicense.
THE GAME IS LICENSED, NOT SOLD. NEITHER THE GAME NOR THE LICENSE GRANTED IN SECTION 1 MAY BE SUBLICENSED OR TRANSFERRED TO ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO SHALL BE NULL AND VOID. If a court of competent jurisdiction finds the foregoing sentence to be unenforceable, you agree that you will call Blizzard Customer Service at 1-800-592-5499 to arrange for the transfer of your rights under this Agreement to another person with a valid Battle.net account; provided, however, that Blizzard may charge a processing/handling fee to facilitate the transfer, issue a unique key to the transferee, and remove the preexisting key from the Battle.net account registered to you.

In e.g.Germany this shouldn't be any problem at all.
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
February 08 2013 12:43 GMT
#186
On February 08 2013 20:25 Targe wrote:
How many people are honestly planning on spending much time in WoL when HoTS comes out, this won't really matter will it?

How many people with multiple accounts on THE SAME server buy multiple copies of HotS?
(I won't, but some will - people who purchased multiple sc2 copies on the same account don't have to purchase multiple HotS accounts, but some of them might now want multiple accounts on the same server.)
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 08 2013 13:05 GMT
#187
On February 08 2013 21:40 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 15:46 Conti wrote:
Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Global play comes along.

Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies.

Get it now?


This doesn't make any sense. Both people will have 2 WoL copies, but Person A will have them both on the same battle.net account.
It's the same as with poeple who have multiple WoW accounts, when you login you can choose which game account you want to use.
Person B would have the ability to give away his second battle.net account but this isn't allowed anyway.

If you want to transfer one of your copies because you don't need it anymore you have to call Blizzard and ask if they'll do it.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/sc2eula.html
No Transfer or Sublicense.
THE GAME IS LICENSED, NOT SOLD. NEITHER THE GAME NOR THE LICENSE GRANTED IN SECTION 1 MAY BE SUBLICENSED OR TRANSFERRED TO ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO SHALL BE NULL AND VOID. If a court of competent jurisdiction finds the foregoing sentence to be unenforceable, you agree that you will call Blizzard Customer Service at 1-800-592-5499 to arrange for the transfer of your rights under this Agreement to another person with a valid Battle.net account; provided, however, that Blizzard may charge a processing/handling fee to facilitate the transfer, issue a unique key to the transferee, and remove the preexisting key from the Battle.net account registered to you.

In e.g.Germany this shouldn't be any problem at all.



Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy for each region.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies for each region.

Better now?
Obikai
Profile Joined February 2013
United Kingdom10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 13:33:26
February 08 2013 13:13 GMT
#188
Conti you are wasting your time, the amount of ignorance and complacency i have seen in here since lastnight is mind blowing ... but it is lucky there are people who go the extra mile in the world and DONT sit and take it. We are the ones that make things happen -

BLIZZARD COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ME!!! you can stop condescending, mocking, and treating people in my position like self entitled idiots now because the people who SUPPLY the services i have in question COMPLETELY AGREE and i have been advised to get back in touch if i am not compensated when Global Play is finalized.

Keep rolling over and taking it up the backside, some of us FULLY understand our rights as a consumer and have no problem exercising them. $60 to one person is 10x that to another you all need to wake up!

oh and Blizzard understood my analogy 100%
Chikipibarum
Profile Joined February 2013
Russian Federation6 Posts
February 08 2013 13:21 GMT
#189
I had 2 copies - 1 cheap with localization locked and 1 full version. I can still log in with both via client and the cheap one is not even language locked anymore.

JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 08 2013 13:35 GMT
#190
Well, can't blizzard just give the people with multiple copies of WoL on their account the option of an alternative battlenet ID starcraft 2?
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
February 08 2013 13:58 GMT
#191
On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.

Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.

I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing.

You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else.

Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 08 2013 14:00 GMT
#192
On February 08 2013 22:58 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.

Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.

I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing.

You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else.

Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing.

Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Global play comes along.

Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy per region.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies per region.

Hey, maybe if I repeat myself often enough, people will figure out what this is all actually about? One can hope..
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 14:13:33
February 08 2013 14:09 GMT
#193
On February 08 2013 23:00 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 22:58 Ryder. wrote:
On February 06 2013 21:49 Frosthaze wrote:
I can't understand why people are taking Blizzards side in this matter?! We who bought more than one account should get the benefits on bying two.. If I would have known this I would have registered my NA and EU copies on different email-addresses.

Edit: I don't expect a Hots copy ofc.

I don't understand this logic at all...the level of entitlement is just mind blowing.

You don't lose anything with the introduction of global play. Before its introduction you were able to play on both NA and EU on the same email. After its introduction you are able to play on both NA and EU. They haven't taken anything away from you and they sure as hell shouldn't have to give you anything just because they have allowed global play for everyone else.

Using the same entitled 'gimme something for nothing' logic that you use, because I paid ~$90 for WoL when it was released, and with the price now being ~$50 (in my country) I should be entitled to a $40 refund! Unfortunately it doesn't work that way; you have had the last 2 years to enjoy the benefits of multiple accounts and you sure as hell aren't losing anything from this, so you are entitled to nothing.

Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Person B buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on a new battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies.

Global play comes along.

Person A has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 1 WoL copy per region.

Person B has paid for 2 WoL copies and now has 2 WoL copies per region.

Hey, maybe if I repeat myself often enough, people will figure out what this is all actually about? One can hope..

Actually in your first scenario 'Person A buys 1 extra WoL copy. He registers it on his original battle.net account. He now has 2 WoL copies' he actually only has 1 WoL copy, just on 2 different regions. After global play, he still only has 1 WoL copy, and still only has it on 2 regions. The fact that paid for 2 back in 2010 is irrelevant, he has enjoyed the benefits of multiple servers for the last 2 years and he isn't losing anything. What happens to the person B who bought 2 different copies on 2 different email addresses doesn't actually affect person A, since A is in the same position before and after the introduction.

Also,
On January 28 2013 06:35 OldEnt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 07:35 figq wrote:
Ah, but you got something - you got another region play - at a time when others who only bought one copy couldn't get it. At that time that luxury was expensive. Now it's cheaper.

I must interrupt. Global play is not a luxury, it is a standard feature in all PC games of which StarCraft 2 was stripped to customers' harm. Please do not turn a deficiency into a norm.

Lol, there is no 'standard feature' that all video games must have and comply with, lest they be damned to video game hell. You knew there was no global play when WoL was released and you purchased it anyway. If you didn't like the lack of global play you shouldn't have bought WoL.

Edit: Let me illustrate with an example

Person A buys WoL at release for $90
Person B buys WoL one month ago for $50.
According to your logic, person A should receive a $40 refund, so that all is fair amongst consumers despite a change in circumstances, despite the fact person A willingly purchased a copy at that price and has enjoyed the product since.
Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
February 08 2013 14:10 GMT
#194
Conti, you're doing an amazing job, but the amount of people which don't read is staggering. I fear you are doing Sisyphus' work.
Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
February 08 2013 14:12 GMT
#195
Ryder, can't you read at all.

One person buys 20 SC2. It registers them on DIFFERENT emails.
global Play comes and this person STILL HAS 20 ACCOUNTS.

BUT

if that person registered his 20 accounts on the SAME EMAIL, then,
Global Play comes and this person NOW HAS 1 (ONE) ACCOUNT!
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 14:16:00
February 08 2013 14:15 GMT
#196
On February 08 2013 23:12 Kakaru2 wrote:
Ryder, can't you read at all.

One person buys 20 SC2. It registers them on DIFFERENT emails.
global Play comes and this person STILL HAS 20 ACCOUNTS.

BUT

if that person registered his 20 accounts on the SAME EMAIL, then,
Global Play comes and this person NOW HAS 1 (ONE) ACCOUNT!

No, it is you who can't read.

They still have as many accounts as there are servers (20 is a nonsensical number anyway since you can't have more than 1 account per server per email...)

The fact that somebody else now has more does not change what you have. You have exactly the same thing! Unfortunately your envy is not a valid reason for 'free HOTS copy' (lol? really?)
Kakaru2
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
February 08 2013 14:17 GMT
#197
YES you can have more accounts per same email.
You can have:
1 NA
1 EU
1 CN
1 SEA
1 KR
1 TW
1 Latin America (if you bought it at start)

Can you count now the accounts LOST?
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 14:26:05
February 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#198
On February 08 2013 23:17 Kakaru2 wrote:
YES you can have more accounts per same email.
You can have:
1 NA
1 EU
1 CN
1 SEA
1 KR
1 TW
1 Latin America (if you bought it at start)

Can you count now the accounts LOST?

FFS I will state this once more as simple as I can.

You still have the same number of accounts. The same! With global play you can play on NA, EU, CN, SEA, KR, TW and Latin America using the 1 email address. This is EXACTLY the same as what you could do before.

You aren't losing anything! What part of this is so hard for you to understand?

Edit: And I'm sorry but Blizzard isn't out to make things 'fair' between consumers who paid for multiple copies on the 1 email address vs those who spread them across a few. They aren't your fucking parents trying to even things out between siblings! To make things fair they would either have to remove the smurfs of those with multiple accounts on different emails (completely impractical and unviable) or give everyone with multiple regions free copies to even it up that way (another completely unreasonable request). You haven't lost anything, so why the fuck do you think Blizzard have some sort of obligation to give you free stuff? Just because the guy across the road got it? Get real.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 08 2013 14:25 GMT
#199
On February 08 2013 23:19 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 23:17 Kakaru2 wrote:
YES you can have more accounts per same email.
You can have:
1 NA
1 EU
1 CN
1 SEA
1 KR
1 TW
1 Latin America (if you bought it at start)

Can you count now the accounts LOST?

FFS I will state this once more as simple as I can.

You still have the same number of accounts. The same! With global play you can play on NA, EU, CN, SEA, KR, TW and Latin America using the 1 email address. This is EXACTLY the same as what you could do before.

You aren't losing anything! What part of this is so hard for you to understand?


1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on one account, and after Global Play he only has 1 copy left.

1 person buys 10 copies of SC2 on ten accounts, and after Global Play he has 10 copies left.

Exactly the same thing, Ryderlogic ftw
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 14:29:39
February 08 2013 14:27 GMT
#200
So with that mentality OP could also ask clothing shops to compensate him when there are reductions on a piece of clothes that he already bought earlier.

Or if someone buys a car right now, which price is reduced one year later, would it be normal for him to ask a compensation?

That's not how it works.
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