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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
January 11 2013 15:39 GMT
#381
On January 11 2013 23:37 eMGmoG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 18:16 negativedge wrote:
why cant he decide where he wanna go if multiple teams bid the same salary and terms?


because kespa exists to support the teams, not the players. in this case, I think it's a pretty good method, honestly. gives the lower tier teams a better shot.


ah, i understand. probably has something to do with this asian cultural thing, where community > individuals, whereas in the west we have a culture focused on indivuals (thats why football is so single player focused, even though its a teamsport)


Fuck now I just want the GSL of Soccer to happen... ffffffffffffff
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
January 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#382
On January 12 2013 00:23 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 00:00 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 11 2013 23:50 revel8 wrote:
This seems a bit weird. Parting does not really decide on what Kespa team he joins. He just joins a Kespa team and it doesn't matter to him which one? It just sound not really committed to a team. Most people join a team because they like that particular team, but Parting seemingly has no preference, or at least his preference is ignored? OK!


This is common practice in a lot of leagues and sports around the world. I don't really understand what the controversy is, do you follow any other sports or understand how some drafting and trading systems work?

edit: To add some other insight, this is the price you pay when you want a standardized league that is able to offer livable salaries to players. If you want a single team to be able to buy out every star player you will create quite the disparity for other teams.


I follow football, rugby, Formula 1, tennis, cricket, golf, athletics and cycling and none of them operate in the way you claim is common practice. Maybe American sports operate in this fashion but I don't follow any of them.


Okay, the practice is used to discourage dominate teams from acquiring all or most of the new talent. By allowing team collusion when drafting new players can insure that all the teams are being fairly represented. If you want to join an organization, you abide by the rules. These rules are a way to allow for fairness, while there may be some trade offs the advantages of a stable salary and contract obligations are far worth it for KESPA players.

How would you have it, I'm curious?
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
January 11 2013 15:49 GMT
#383
can a foreign join kespa to get the license ?
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
January 11 2013 15:49 GMT
#384
Lol at people getting upset. Atleast be glad he will not kill esports by joining a forgeiner team.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
January 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#385
On January 12 2013 00:49 IceBergZ wrote:
can a foreign join kespa to get the license ?

Major did
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
January 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#386
Not really liking the random drawing process.. but it is pretty cool that e is able to join a kespa team.
Unshapely
Profile Joined November 2012
140 Posts
January 11 2013 16:02 GMT
#387
There is something fishy about the draw being random. There is something missing, surely, some cunning and secretive plot.

Oh well, it would have been better if Parting could himself decide which team to go for in case multiple teams do bid for him.
That is not dead which can eternal lie; and with strange aeons even death may die.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
January 11 2013 16:07 GMT
#388
I'm still quite confused about how this thing works :s

Is Parting employed by kespa and rented out to a team? If not why did he make a deal for his salary with them?

What sort of bids will the teams have to do? He's already made a deal for his salary and the decision on which team he is joining is a random draw...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#389
parting will get paid, everyone will be satisfied within their allowance.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 11 2013 16:13 GMT
#390
I know where he's going. ^^
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
January 11 2013 16:16 GMT
#391
TEAM 8 OH PLEASE BE TEAM 8!
I would cry tears of joy if it was team 8, they would be a real force to reckon with if PartinG joined.
Azrael_42
Profile Joined February 2012
5 Posts
January 11 2013 16:20 GMT
#392
SkT1 would be the best. Parting, Rain and Fantasy would be unstopable!
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 11 2013 16:25 GMT
#393
On January 12 2013 00:44 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 00:23 revel8 wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:00 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 11 2013 23:50 revel8 wrote:
This seems a bit weird. Parting does not really decide on what Kespa team he joins. He just joins a Kespa team and it doesn't matter to him which one? It just sound not really committed to a team. Most people join a team because they like that particular team, but Parting seemingly has no preference, or at least his preference is ignored? OK!


This is common practice in a lot of leagues and sports around the world. I don't really understand what the controversy is, do you follow any other sports or understand how some drafting and trading systems work?

edit: To add some other insight, this is the price you pay when you want a standardized league that is able to offer livable salaries to players. If you want a single team to be able to buy out every star player you will create quite the disparity for other teams.


I follow football, rugby, Formula 1, tennis, cricket, golf, athletics and cycling and none of them operate in the way you claim is common practice. Maybe American sports operate in this fashion but I don't follow any of them.


Okay, the practice is used to discourage dominate teams from acquiring all or most of the new talent. By allowing team collusion when drafting new players can insure that all the teams are being fairly represented. If you want to join an organization, you abide by the rules. These rules are a way to allow for fairness, while there may be some trade offs the advantages of a stable salary and contract obligations are far worth it for KESPA players.

How would you have it, I'm curious?


Why not just allow Parting to negotiate with the team he is interested in joining? He may think to improve his game by having a certain player as a practice partner. However the odds will be that he will join a team that is a rival to this players team and so will not be able to practice with him or have this limited due to team rivalries. Essentially Parting is saying to Startale thanks for the training but I am going to join another team, and not any particular team because I really like them but really just anyone but Startale!
Rexeus
Profile Joined October 2011
78 Posts
January 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#394
Not playing when you are on a roll.....
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#395
SKTParting
Sankanyo
Profile Joined August 2011
United States140 Posts
January 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#396
PartinG had a...

*puts on sunglasses*

farewell parting with StarTale.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 11 2013 16:31 GMT
#397
On January 12 2013 01:25 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 00:44 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:23 revel8 wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:00 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 11 2013 23:50 revel8 wrote:
This seems a bit weird. Parting does not really decide on what Kespa team he joins. He just joins a Kespa team and it doesn't matter to him which one? It just sound not really committed to a team. Most people join a team because they like that particular team, but Parting seemingly has no preference, or at least his preference is ignored? OK!


This is common practice in a lot of leagues and sports around the world. I don't really understand what the controversy is, do you follow any other sports or understand how some drafting and trading systems work?

edit: To add some other insight, this is the price you pay when you want a standardized league that is able to offer livable salaries to players. If you want a single team to be able to buy out every star player you will create quite the disparity for other teams.


I follow football, rugby, Formula 1, tennis, cricket, golf, athletics and cycling and none of them operate in the way you claim is common practice. Maybe American sports operate in this fashion but I don't follow any of them.


Okay, the practice is used to discourage dominate teams from acquiring all or most of the new talent. By allowing team collusion when drafting new players can insure that all the teams are being fairly represented. If you want to join an organization, you abide by the rules. These rules are a way to allow for fairness, while there may be some trade offs the advantages of a stable salary and contract obligations are far worth it for KESPA players.

How would you have it, I'm curious?


Why not just allow Parting to negotiate with the team he is interested in joining? He may think to improve his game by having a certain player as a practice partner. However the odds will be that he will join a team that is a rival to this players team and so will not be able to practice with him or have this limited due to team rivalries. Essentially Parting is saying to Startale thanks for the training but I am going to join another team, and not any particular team because I really like them but really just anyone but Startale!


Probably because they want to keep PL teams 'balance'. Obviously, some teams with the S class players still had better results in BW. But could you imagine if one team invested enough money to get TBLS, Fantasy, Jangbi all on the same team in BW? They don't want to run into a Real Madrid, Barcalona situation.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 11 2013 16:32 GMT
#398
kt plz
young ho
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
January 11 2013 16:58 GMT
#399
On January 12 2013 01:25 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 00:44 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:23 revel8 wrote:
On January 12 2013 00:00 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On January 11 2013 23:50 revel8 wrote:
This seems a bit weird. Parting does not really decide on what Kespa team he joins. He just joins a Kespa team and it doesn't matter to him which one? It just sound not really committed to a team. Most people join a team because they like that particular team, but Parting seemingly has no preference, or at least his preference is ignored? OK!


This is common practice in a lot of leagues and sports around the world. I don't really understand what the controversy is, do you follow any other sports or understand how some drafting and trading systems work?

edit: To add some other insight, this is the price you pay when you want a standardized league that is able to offer livable salaries to players. If you want a single team to be able to buy out every star player you will create quite the disparity for other teams.


I follow football, rugby, Formula 1, tennis, cricket, golf, athletics and cycling and none of them operate in the way you claim is common practice. Maybe American sports operate in this fashion but I don't follow any of them.


Okay, the practice is used to discourage dominate teams from acquiring all or most of the new talent. By allowing team collusion when drafting new players can insure that all the teams are being fairly represented. If you want to join an organization, you abide by the rules. These rules are a way to allow for fairness, while there may be some trade offs the advantages of a stable salary and contract obligations are far worth it for KESPA players.

How would you have it, I'm curious?


Why not just allow Parting to negotiate with the team he is interested in joining? He may think to improve his game by having a certain player as a practice partner. However the odds will be that he will join a team that is a rival to this players team and so will not be able to practice with him or have this limited due to team rivalries. Essentially Parting is saying to Startale thanks for the training but I am going to join another team, and not any particular team because I really like them but really just anyone but Startale!


Well if Parting did what you wanted to do he would have to go through any other team, but not a KESPA organized team. The whole purpose of KESPA is to protect to the team's interest first. The players, while taken care of, aren't put in front of the teams. This would defeat what made KESPA successful for the last decade.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#400
Would be sooo sick if he joined SKT! Altho I'm hoping he joins CJ or KT!
@Munck
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