EPTLings of Liberty: The Rise of the Patchzergs - Page 78
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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Sweetfrost
Sweden213 Posts
 I feel a little bit violated. | ||
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Howl41
United States65 Posts
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
On December 14 2012 15:25 PlaGuE_R wrote: I watched very little of 2012 SC2, because of Zerg. And I play random. Just so boring, and seeing players like HerO and MMA and what not falling to someone like vortix, disgusts me to the very core of my being. Haha, I feel you so much bro. Unfortunately we are the minority. 90% of the replies are filled with zerg butthurt, balance whine and meaningless arguing. The fact that SC2 is unwatchable is just a minor detail I guess. | ||
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StickyIcky
United States192 Posts
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
On December 14 2012 20:46 StickyIcky wrote: This is probably the guy who posts the scat pictures in the LR threads doing a balance whine. that guy's actually pretty funny. let's face it though probably a 16 year old in his basement | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On December 14 2012 18:00 Serenity12 wrote: There are some extreme accusations being made, but he actually does have some very good points. The numbers speak for themselves, foreign zergs are much more successful versus Koreans than the other races. If you think that is because all foreign zergs are just better than foreigners of other races then quite frankly you are probably an idiot. its obviously because the way Zerg works, they favour players on the foreign skill-level. | ||
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
TvZ was the flag ship MU until Zergs received many patches that just made the game boring. When neutral Korean and foreign pros began to speak out about the imbalance, I knew there was an issue. It was easy to see for anyone who had played Terran at a relatively high level. I stopped playing myself after the queen buff because I began to lose to players I once used to dominate. TvT and TvP remained great, but you could easily tell that TvZ was not right. As a player, I stopped playing several months ago. And I even reduced my consumption of sc2 because, as was stated, the games became more linear and predicable. Zergs turtled to infestor/bl or ultra and won. 11/11 rax had been neutered. reaper fe neutered. 2 rax variants, and even the hellion opener lost their potency. PvZ showed the same problems. the MU was stale, as protoss was relegated to 2 base while Zergs were free to both take more bases and deny protoss bases with their mobility. zerg seemed to have it all: the strongest 200/200 army, the best static defense (wall of spines/spores for no supply), the best mobility (running zergling packs to deny/delay expos), ability to drop, burrow, burrow move (denying expansions, forcing obs. or scans, greater harass), the best macro (when zergs could lose over 100 drones in the early/mid game and win), and the best re-max (even with the best 200/200 supply army, zergs could also instantly re-max). What confused me was the game design. How was it that the "swarm" race; ostensibly the race of "many weak units" became the race of the strongest unit composition in both MUs, and the ability to have "many" units with the re-max and static defense. As well as the huge pool of resources to support both of the aforementioned options due to superior macro mechanics. How did Zerg receive all of these benefits? As someone who loves playing RTS games-- all of these factors leave one wondering how one race could have so many advantages relative to the others. Zerg has every possible advantage, so it's little wonder we have seen so much domination on the part of foreign and Korean zergs. | ||
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m0ck
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 15 2012 02:19 m0ck wrote: The continually displayed stupidity in this thread is the real damning of SC2 (and I might add, TL). The butthurt is strong in this zerg. | ||
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Swilvan
113 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
At least use real "patchzergs" as example if you are going to make a thread like this. Show some respect to the ones who has nothing to do with the patch. | ||
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EmailFDP
Brazil16 Posts
Used to be the most fun match up. | ||
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hillman
United States162 Posts
On December 14 2012 15:25 PlaGuE_R wrote: I watched very little of 2012 SC2, because of Zerg. And I play random. Just so boring, and seeing players like HerO and MMA and what not falling to someone like vortix, disgusts me to the very core of my being. Yeah I mean, how could Vortix actually be good? It's just outrageous that someone could put many hours of practice in and become consistently good. It's just appalling. | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:30 hillman wrote: Yeah I mean, how could Vortix actually be good? It's just outrageous that someone could put many hours of practice in and become consistently good. It's just appalling. He must have have gotten some wrist problems trying to polish his micro and made a lot of unique and new game-changing builds that he became really known for. Maybe, he was one of the first players to change the key binding on "Terran Infestation" instead of getting new keyboards each time T gets broken. Sure, I'm being sarcastic, but his success is more related to the race dominance. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 14 2012 20:22 kasumimi wrote: Haha, I feel you so much bro. Unfortunately we are the minority. 90% of the replies are filled with zerg butthurt, balance whine and meaningless arguing. The fact that SC2 is unwatchable is just a minor detail I guess. You mean balance whining like you are doing now? lol oh the irony. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:30 hillman wrote: Yeah I mean, how could Vortix actually be good? It's just outrageous that someone could put many hours of practice in and become consistently good. It's just appalling. Yes because foreign zergs practice much harder than foreign terrans, right? | ||
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:53 Hider wrote: Yes because foreign zergs practice much harder than foreign terrans, right? You can't talk like you know how much anyone practices unless you live with them. Or they say themselves how much they have been practicing. | ||
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hillman
United States162 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:48 DidYuhim wrote: He must have have gotten some wrist problems trying to polish his micro and made a lot of unique and new game-changing builds that he became really known for. Maybe, he was one of the first players to change the key binding on "Terran Infestation" instead of getting new keyboards each time T gets broken. Sure, I'm being sarcastic, but his success is more related to the race dominance. Vortix becomes slightly better than most Europeans and occasionally beats a Korean...it must be because the game is broken. Yep, good call. True innovation is rare in this game, I hate to break it to you. Why is hero innovative? Because he started using warp prisms after they got buffed? Wow, that's some serious innovation. I don't deny he is a great talent, but does that mean he should beat great foreigners 100% of the time? My God the bias is outlandish here. | ||
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Howl41
United States65 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:57 Moosegills wrote: You can't talk like you know how much anyone practices unless you live with them. Or they say themselves how much they have been practicing. Are you actually implying that foreign Zergs do in fact practice way more than foreign P or T players? Its ridiculous what people will do to try and avoid accepting the truth. | ||
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