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I'm not sure how people are taking this article so very seriously, like that Ganero person who said he would report it for racism? Other people pointing out its bias and stupidity? Do people read only the first paragraph and then comment on it?
Now, this is just a summary that isn't entirely correct, but for the most part is. The OP is saying the entire zerg infestor dominance is easily explained by a crazy conspiracy theory. Blizzard actively lowering zerg's skill ceiling in order to cause a resurgence of white dominance in esports, causing viewership and therefore profits to rise. That this actively being discussed in Blizzard HQ and they are trying their hardest to cause their money hungry schemes to go unnoticed. After uncovering their dastardly scheme the OP in his last paragraph states his selfless intentions. Esports is more important than him, his winrates, or anything for that matter. He beseeches blizzard to make a change to fungal growth for the good of esports, Make it more powerful and more dominating. Only with a more powerful fungal growth will Esports have the chance to flourish as it deserves. Only with a more powerful fungal growth will foreigners and the white man stand a chance at dethroning the mystifying koreans, causing more viewers, more profits, and causing blizzard's scheme to finally come to its fruition.
Read that to yourself...does it sound like something you should get up in arms about? Does it sound like something you should get serious about?
I'm sure if you tried you could take some points here and there about balance, but thats not really the point I imagine. It is damn funny and enjoyed reading the entire thing. Anyone who is taking this article super serious...umm...How are you reading the OP without having a good laugh? It is a crazy conspiracy theory that is meant to be an entertaining and hilarious read.
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I'm a zerg player but I've stopped playing and I hate watching ZvX matchups now. Infestors are stupidly overpowered.
But they're just another cog of broken crap Blizzard mechanics which promotes no micro and 1a. SC2 is dead.
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Was a good read, entertaining, nice pictures..
...then it goes into "Blizzard wants white people to beat koreans"....
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On December 04 2012 04:40 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +I write this article and expose this unpleasant truth as a plea to Blizzard: I beseech you, leaders of the mighty empire, to strengthen fungal growth even more. Indeed, your wise patches have propelled legions of white Zergs to previously undreamed of results. However, there is an unintended side effect: what happens when almost all the high Korean finishers are Zerg too? Yes, infestors lower the ZvZ skill ceiling so that much that it even lets patchzergs beat GSL champions occasionally; Occasionally?
Stephano is now a patch zerg?
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I like Wings of Lings better than Lings if Liberty...
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I don't get why you'd make plenty of valid points then put the conspiracy nonsense in so you can pass it off as "it was all a joke!"
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On December 04 2012 04:29 SwizzY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 04:21 Miotonir wrote:
Ohhhh YESSS guyy!!! When Terran was OP everybody was happy, the game was fair... when ghost could kill 3 broodlords with single snipee yeaaah!!! i remember that. Yeaaa let's go back to the old ways... let protoss be the weakest race and let zerg kinda ok... and let Terran reign supreme for another 2 years , with every possible op unit imaginable.
Those pesky foreigners ... ah op Naniwa op Stephano op immortals , zerg op ... Koreans so bad that they cant use the same op mechanics... so bad, foreigners op. Please make a coherent thought. This post is literally trash. I did find the thread a pretty good read. I think the projectile fungal, while graphically looking pretty dumb, would increase the skill cap/differential between the 1a and the micro'er. Great job Ver. I love threads like this where the OP actually put some effort into it instead of the "Do you think..." into 3 walls of text of pure speculation/opinion. I think the queen buff/map layouts post-queen buff play a part in allowing 3-base zerg/quick lair play and thus mass infestor to be so accessible as well. EDIT* - Wait wtf is this whole OP a troll? I guess I'm one of the dumb ones because I don't understand...
Why would i make coherent toughs about it? This post is Korean/Terran biased. It has no real meaning the data is pure crap. People got bored with the game ,its out 3 years already , that's why were seeing decline and lack of innovative strategies and/or zerg dominance. It is not as radical tho as the post says , amazing player will be amazing.
Regardless if he/she is using "white people spell" or not. On top of that Zergs had a long time to practice diffrent stufz in the "Era of Terran" and got to a pretty stable point(with a bit of help from blizz).Fungal growth is the same as blu flame was while back , it will get nerfed ,but I don't think it will fix the audience problem. SC2 is pretty much dead. People pussied out and left, alot of terrans left coz they can't kill early game... other ppl left coz terrans left. I took up Terran since last month coz i like playing weakest race.When zerg becomes weakest race ill take it on again... gl hf. Dont be biased bro.
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Interesting points, waaaay too repetative and the whole WWII propaganda/manifesto style was a bit taxing.
Patch fungal, agreed. But Blizzard conspiring to raise the win ratio of foriegn white males by devinely foreknowing the next 6-8 months of results from their queen patch, that's a very short sighted knee jerk reaction.
Obviously, i think this is supposed to be a joke.
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On December 04 2012 04:03 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 04:01 Derrida wrote:
wow those graphs are looking extremely interesting, good work man. reading on. At least you unlocked the first-response achievement on this, right? How many microsoft points did you get?
Wow. Hit the nail on the head. Basically a "1st!" post in disguise.
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On December 04 2012 04:40 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +I write this article and expose this unpleasant truth as a plea to Blizzard: I beseech you, leaders of the mighty empire, to strengthen fungal growth even more. Indeed, your wise patches have propelled legions of white Zergs to previously undreamed of results. However, there is an unintended side effect: what happens when almost all the high Korean finishers are Zerg too? Yes, infestors lower the ZvZ skill ceiling so that much that it even lets patchzergs beat GSL champions occasionally; Occasionally?
? Stephano is one of the best non Korean players for a while now in what world would he be considered a patch Zerg.
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On December 04 2012 04:31 sitromit wrote:
It goes both ways. So if we're going to complain that Zerg is too easy to win with when foreigner Zergs win against Koreans who are faster, have better multitasking etc, why was everyone singing praises to Naniwa when he beat Nestea and Mvp? When Thorzain won TSL? When Thorzain went 2-3 against DRG at Valencia?
When people like Sjow and Incontrol were taking games off Korean Zergs?
Those cases were fairly rare whereas these days every Euro zerg and his dog is taking games off the likes of MC.
And you're wrong anyway- when it was only Stephano, Nerchio and a few others they did get a lot of praise. Now you almost expect a code S/A protoss to lose to a random foreigner zerg (eg Squirtle/Xigua etc. etc.) as we see it hapening every tournament.
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Troll much? You know many people will believe that this analysis was all encompassing...i am sad that this will go over very badly (many/most will not get it)
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Seriously all Terran players have been doing is crying about the infestor use fucking ravens and ghosts earlier you can't expect to see 20 infestors and then just suddenly decide to switch to Ravens or Ghosts think ahead and stop crying
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I'm impressed by your dedication to the topic and the amount of effort you put in. That said, the statistics you use are incredibly misleading and biased, as is your general flow. You make some pretty serious, and frankly quite absurd, accusations about Blizzard changing the game solely to make foreigners win, and mistake correlation with causation all over the place.
I sympathize with people's frustration regarding the game. At one point I was very aggravated by what I perceived as the "clear" imbalance favoring Protoss. However, Starcraft 2 and its balance is infinitely more complicated than you acknowledge here and your proposed solutions create a thousand more problems that will be complained about the second any of your changes were implemented. Just as example, could you imagine how much rage would exist if the zergling were buffed? Mass ling is already a great early game defense and late game harass.
My point is that your post, while well written, well planned out, and coherent without being too vitriolic and counterproductive, is sensationalist and misses the point in several places. As noted before me, it is essentially cleverly disguised anti-zerg sentiment, a la the current wave of hatred.
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On December 04 2012 04:44 jalstar wrote:
I don't get why you'd make plenty of valid points then put the conspiracy nonsense in so you can pass it off as "it was all a joke!"
beat me to it, couldn't have expressed it better :-s
LE: Also, sorry to say OP, but the people not "getting it" - in this case, it is not necessarily their fault.
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On December 04 2012 04:44 jalstar wrote:
I don't get why you'd make plenty of valid points then put the conspiracy nonsense in so you can pass it off as "it was all a joke!"
He's a blizzard plant. Now that the truth has been tied-in to a conspiracy theory, blizzard can promptly ignore everything brought up!
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Don't really agree with the conspiracy theory, Blizzard clearly didn't know the effect fungal nerf would have on the scene. Totally agree though that ZvT is one-sided and MUCH more boring than it used to be. I know everyone complains about ZvP, but really watching the games in ZvT the Terran player has 0 margin for error. I too noticed how many times we heard "AMAZING FUNGAL!" every single fucking game. It's not that "amazing" when everyone can do it.
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On December 04 2012 04:46 Vindicate wrote:
I'm impressed by your dedication to the topic and the amount of effort you put in. That said, the statistics you use are incredibly misleading and biased, as is your general flow. You make some pretty serious, and frankly quite absurd, accusations about Blizzard changing the game solely to make foreigners win, and mistake correlation with causation all over the place.
I sympathize with people's frustration regarding the game. At one point I was very aggravated by what I perceived as the "clear" imbalance favoring Protoss. However, Starcraft 2 and its balance is infinitely more complicated than you acknowledge here and your proposed solutions create a thousand more problems that will be complained about the second any of your changes were implemented. Just as example, could you imagine how much rage would exist if the zergling were buffed? Mass ling is already a great early game defense and late game harass.
My point is that your post, while well written, well planned out, and coherent without being too vitriolic and counterproductive, is sensationalist and misses the point in several places. As noted before me, it is essentially cleverly disguised anti-zerg sentiment, a la the current wave of hatred.
-wooosh-
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I like the analysis and arguments and graphs in the most of it, but your conclusion that they are making zerg the rigged easy race and designating terran as the punching bag... I don't think so.
Also I felt the argument that David Kim's quote was proof that he "hopes" Stephano to win is just weak.
Here's a counterargument:
If zerg was so weak back then, why not make Terran easier to play, and keep zerg as the punching bag while terran is the 'white race".
Do you have any argument why they chose zerg instead of Terran?
If they really wanted white people to keep beating Koreans, why change what is already set (zerg being hard and terran being strong at high levels to zerg being easy and strong and terran being hard and weak) instead of simply being terran even easier to play?
Making zerg stronger and easier and nerfing Terran seems like a lot more work than keeping zerg in its unforgivable, weak state and simply making Terran easier to play at the foreigner levels.
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