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Atrbyg
United States513 Posts
On December 04 2012 04:59 Vogue wrote: Comments are pretty much about how I imagine how people responded to A Modest Proposal. LOL I thought of this too as I was reading the post. xp | ||
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
I understand that it is a big joke but guess what , people will constantly refer to this article every single time a zerg wins something while calling them patchzergs  | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
There's a very important question that must be asked now: can you even distinguish which Zerg is which anymore? If before the game, as in the Kespa vs Gom players special matches, there was no player cam and no ID and brackets were hidden, could you honestly tell the difference between someone at the level of Life or Leenock or any foreigner Zerg... This is so true. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:25 Angel[BTL] wrote: Does nobody read the eu.battle.net forums from blizzard? Here it is the latest statement for HOTS that addresses this issues You can read more here -> http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5966979955#1 That's nice, but it would be even nicer to see some small change in WOL. Ah well, not long to go until HOTS now I guess. Enjoy it while it lasts patchies! | ||
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wozzot
United States1227 Posts
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Sigmur
Poland497 Posts
We need to buff zerg, especially lategame!! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:28 Assirra wrote: Oh boy, new food for balance whiners. I understand that it is a big joke but guess what , people will constantly refer to this article every single time a zerg wins something while calling them patchzergs Actually the points about the game itself is completely serious, the joke is the part about Blizzard did this to make white guys win. It's a sad reality, I know. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
Mein banelings... | ||
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Zahir
United States947 Posts
I've been debating the real problem behind zerg for a while now, as many others have been doing. I'm honestly not sure if fungal/mass infestor is the ENTIRE problem - although I'm certain that it forms at least part. What about the queen range buff, for instance? Before that happened, TvZ early-early mid game was more micro intensive, and rushing to 3 base was less common. Also, I think forcefields play a similar role to fungal, they make micro impossible in many situations. Vortex, too... I'm glad that DK is thinking about nerfing fungal and vortex, at least. I agree that it sucks to watch a game where the micro is effectively over within 1 second (due to one guy getting off 'AMAZING' fungals or forcefields... its not a BATTLE unless there is back and forth micro, one guy getting off spell at the right moment is not a battle its an autowin) Overall, though, good post. I wish Blizzard would think about making fungal slow instead of root, or at least make it a projectile... and maybe make forcefield have hp... having a bunch of micro-intensive units be locked down and unable to micro due to one guy F-clicking is not good for the game, or for spectating. | ||
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Trotim
Germany95 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:25 Angel[BTL] wrote: Does nobody read the eu.battle.net forums from blizzard? Here it is the latest statement for HOTS that addresses this issues You can read more here -> http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5966979955#1 That doesn't address anything. It's in there, and worded like a "major" nerf is coming... but is also by far the most broad and unspecific point. Almost reads like a marketing ploy so people buy HotS... damn you Darth Kim! | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10379 Posts
Ver, I applaud your efforts for what seems to be some kind of humor. It is obviously hard to write a very good satire. But your intentions and messages can be interpreted in too many ways. With some background knowledge of you and Monk and what Monk said regarding this thread, your intentions and messages can be made clearer, but it is still quite unclear exactly what your points are. Correct me if I'm wrong, but only the ending is similar to A Modest Proposal. The usage of only alluding to A Modest Proposal in the end can, by itself, be interpreted in many ways. For example, by copying the style of A Modest Proposal's last paragraph, are you simply trying to make his thread humorous, to contrast the seriousness of most of the post? Are you copying the style of A Modest Proposal to similarly show the ridiculousness of a need to nerf Zerg, as it was ridiculous for babies to be suggested to be eaten? Are you saying that Zerg is indeed dominating, but are criticizing people who think Blizzard buffed zerg just so that foreigners can win more (there aren't many people who say/believe this) Maybe you are criticizing both people who think Zerg is dominating and people who think Blizzard wants zerg to be the strongest and wants foreigners to win? There's many other things I can think about, but these are just on the top of my head. Past these interpretations, there's still the trouble of figuring out the specifics of the target people that you're criticizing, and your opinion on how they should change. With Monk's post it's more clear what the general direction of your satire is, but with just Ver's post alone, I think it is open for too many interpretations. Another thing I don't like about this post is that, unless you disagreed with Monk and felt many would indeed understand it (and if this is the case please disregard this), if you are posting this with the intention of only a few people understanding this and hoping to get some laughs from this -- while it may be funny to see people to fail to understand your satire, you and others can't really blame them; there is simply too much evidence to support many different interpretations of your post. If you posted this with the intention of only a few people understanding it, is that not a form of laziness? If not (and I'm sure it's not, because you obviously put lots of effort into this!), I would like to offer some feedback. I don't think it's a good satire if not many people can understand it. A Modest Proposal is written in a humorous way that is easily understandable ( at least in our more sophisticated, modern, and educated society than in its time ) and has messages and points that are clearly discernible. Now obviously it must have taken you a long time to write this; I'm not trying to make a personal attack "omg you failed to make a satire as well written as someone as famous as John Swift! I as a person deserve to read better articles written for free!" but would like to give my feedback that overall, the satire should have been clearer. Tl;dr nice humorous post, didn't understand it at first, and still see too many interpretations that are possible, would have liked you to make it clearer because posting an unclear satire on a site like TL isn't such a good idea to me (majority of discussion/comments aren't even discussing/commenting on the right things, as seen by people being offended by the "racism") | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
misinformed and often times down right incorrect. For example, the reason fungal was buffed was because of massvoidrays or any combination of voidray collosi combo that could not be engaged at any angle. What a long winded QQ. | ||
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Miotonir
Poland66 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:23 Twistacles wrote: There's only one window to do damage, and that is pre-hive. The best pre-hive push is a 3cc +2/+2 attack. Mech is only good if the zerg goes afk and lets you roast 60 drones. If the push gets completely shut down the Terran can't come back and dies to infestor/broodlord. So u recon that u should be able to burn 60 drones with 4-6 helions ... do u think reverting to queen range 3 would alow that or maybe zergs learned that queen is good unit to defend with? Maybe its time for u to think of something diffrent than 6 helion runby which ive seen 1000 and more times. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
To cater to casuals and give them a greater sense of accomplishment and improvement, you cannot have a level playing field. At the same time, you cannot appeal to ALL the casuals. Instead, you go a round robin of "balancing" to make sure everyone gets their candy. | ||
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