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Lings of Liberty: The Rise of the Patchzergs - Page 9

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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 03 2012 20:06 GMT
#161
On December 04 2012 04:43 Raysdan wrote:
I'm not sure how people are taking this article so very seriously, like that Ganero person who said he would report it for racism? Other people pointing out its bias and stupidity? Do people read only the first paragraph and then comment on it?

Now, this is just a summary that isn't entirely correct, but for the most part is. The OP is saying the entire zerg infestor dominance is easily explained by a crazy conspiracy theory. Blizzard actively lowering zerg's skill ceiling in order to cause a resurgence of white dominance in esports, causing viewership and therefore profits to rise. That this actively being discussed in Blizzard HQ and they are trying their hardest to cause their money hungry schemes to go unnoticed. After uncovering their dastardly scheme the OP in his last paragraph states his selfless intentions. Esports is more important than him, his winrates, or anything for that matter. He beseeches blizzard to make a change to fungal growth for the good of esports, Make it more powerful and more dominating. Only with a more powerful fungal growth will Esports have the chance to flourish as it deserves. Only with a more powerful fungal growth will foreigners and the white man stand a chance at dethroning the mystifying koreans, causing more viewers, more profits, and causing blizzard's scheme to finally come to its fruition.

Read that to yourself...does it sound like something you should get up in arms about? Does it sound like something you should get serious about?

I'm sure if you tried you could take some points here and there about balance, but thats not really the point I imagine. It is damn funny and enjoyed reading the entire thing. Anyone who is taking this article super serious...umm...How are you reading the OP without having a good laugh? It is a crazy conspiracy theory that is meant to be an entertaining and hilarious read.


Are you sure about this? To me, the sarcasm in the ending can be interpreted to support his view about the conspiracy theory.

"Blizzard is making zerg easy so that white people win and they get money. Here's my proof. Go ahead Blizzard, keep making the fungal stronger please, it's good for esports".

That's one way you can see it.
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:10:25
December 03 2012 20:06 GMT
#162
On December 04 2012 04:59 Vogue wrote:
Comments are pretty much about how I imagine how people responded to A Modest Proposal.

This is a brilliant analogy.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 03 2012 20:06 GMT
#163
I laughed, I cried, I had this awkward cough in the middle of it when I tried to say the names of various patch zergs. I guess at this point if Stephano said they exist in a Team Acer interview, they must exist. I hope Blizz gets this worked out, at this point, I bought HotS because I had faith in them to make the game as good as it was around mid 2011. Im a little less faithful at this point.
User was warned for too many mimes.
PyreSC
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
December 03 2012 20:08 GMT
#164
In terms of skill margin, playing terran requires much, much more skill to play it at the highest level. If we look at all the high placing foreigners at MLGs and other tournaments, they are always zerg. Because of this zerg domination, us NA terrans have to basically play 12hours/day to match a zerg player who plays 2hours/day or wait hopelessly for blizzard to patch zerg.. TT
ucsd~
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 03 2012 20:08 GMT
#165
I really liked the article until it became borderline racism.... hope it's a joke : /
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
December 03 2012 20:08 GMT
#166
Three EMP's disregard the entire topic.

NEXT!
.............
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 03 2012 20:09 GMT
#167
Who can blame Blizzard for wanting to help Stephano?

The man is gorgeous.
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-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
December 03 2012 20:10 GMT
#168
Lings of Liberty, great game.

BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:12:46
December 03 2012 20:10 GMT
#169
Post removed.
Miotonir
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland66 Posts
December 03 2012 20:10 GMT
#170
On December 04 2012 05:02 jliu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 04:57 Miotonir wrote:
On December 04 2012 04:53 Twistacles wrote:
... it became a dumb 3 base coinflip.

A 3 base ... coinflip xD? what does it mean? is it a thing?
how is it diffrent from 2 base coinflip?
I cant conprehend 3 base coinflip.


I think what the OP means is that the matchup has become based around a single 3-base timing (2-2, 150 supply), since early game timings are nerfed and the late game is so zerg dominant.


3 base is the max u can get(minerals) 4 base u only populate gases... how can u call 3 base 150 supply push a coinflip. Also are we gonna now cry coz someone cant cheese? I find Terran Mech to be incredibly potent late game and hard to beat with nice upgrades. I think all the whining is lazyness.
Alacast
Profile Joined December 2011
United States205 Posts
December 03 2012 20:11 GMT
#171
On December 04 2012 04:58 orBitual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 04:54 Alacast wrote:
On December 04 2012 04:51 orBitual wrote:
On December 04 2012 04:49 Alacast wrote:
Finally someone put the time into this that it deserves. Shame it will just get ignored like its many predecessors.


the irony is that you haven't read it, since there haven't been many predecessors about Blizzard's conspiracy to empower white SC2 players.


I did read it--the snarky, obviously facetious "white boy" part was a bit oblique to be taken seriously don't you think?


uhh, then your comment about "someone putting time into this" when a vast majority of the content is written to support the joke doesn't make much sense. also, oblique doesn't mean what you think it means. i imagine you found that word while scanning the captions


My mistake. Obtuse**

Someone putting thought into a discussion on TvZ in its current state which, while relying primarily on caricatural and sensationalist overexaggeration for emphasis, gets across the feeling that many people have w.r.t the match-up.

Call me a balance whiner if you want, but I think he addresses many of the legitimate concerns many people feel. While most similar posts are often brief and poorly written, this is the first instance of someone actually opening the door for a discussion.

The conspiracy theme was clearly meant to make fun of the general "Blizzard conspiracy/bashing" people tend to adopt in these situations; I'm sorry if you took it seriously and ignored the rest of the post.
Let us not rail about justice as long as we have arms and the freedom to use them. -Frank Herbert
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:15:50
December 03 2012 20:11 GMT
#172
Laughed pretty hard at your last part, great read, enjoyed it throughout.
But I gotta admit your OP is getting outshined by the comments, especially the ones responding to kawaiirice, who simply jumped onto the train. As if Kawaiirice wouldn't know.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
December 03 2012 20:12 GMT
#173
On December 04 2012 04:14 TurboMaN wrote:
Lol at the terran stats.
Unfortunately Terran was also the most demanding race in SCBW, so I doubt Blizz will do anything against that. Addtionally they even said that Terrran is designed to be strong early and midgame but weak lategame.



itw as the most demanding but in zvt i felt like zerg was more difficult but yes i generally agree with this. feel that blizzard "likes" that terran is hard as hell
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
December 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#174
Oh the sarcasm, good one.
madespecifically
Profile Joined December 2012
39 Posts
December 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#175
On December 04 2012 05:12 c0sm0naut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 04:14 TurboMaN wrote:
Lol at the terran stats.
Unfortunately Terran was also the most demanding race in SCBW, so I doubt Blizz will do anything against that. Addtionally they even said that Terrran is designed to be strong early and midgame but weak lategame.



itw as the most demanding but in zvt i felt like zerg was more difficult but yes i generally agree with this. feel that blizzard "likes" that terran is hard as hell

Zerg is far less demanding than terran mechanically.

I love this thread. It says exactly what the truth is, exactly in the way it should. Thank you, Ver.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9395 Posts
December 03 2012 20:14 GMT
#176
On December 04 2012 04:13 NeonFox wrote:
Lol wat? Blizzard rigged the game to make "white people" win more over Koreans? And your best argument for this is a Korean fan saying he hopes Stephano wins? This is fucking ridiculous.

+ Show Spoiler +
For the sake of it, yes I know it's humorous :p


I agree. 90% of his posts is so good. But then that just stupid theory. I honestly think OP overthinks it. Blizzard had no idea zerg would be easier to play actually after the infestor buff. They just wanted to buff mutas in zvz.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:15:35
December 03 2012 20:14 GMT
#177
on second read this is the jokiest joke article to have ever joked

well written and played, seems almost designed to catch skimmers and those inclined to balance whine and make them abase themselves in the comments.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
December 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#178
Post so I can read this later and I dont forget about it because my god ... this seems like an amazing read.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#179
so it should be funny? maybe it would if he wouldnt complain in other threads too.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#180
Freakonomics, SC2 edition.

Very entertaining read, 5/5
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