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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On December 01 2012 19:43 imPermanenCe wrote: 1 storm can kill a batch of eggs now :D! Progress! Although, ht's can get fungalled to death again ;( eggs heal. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
Bring back the Lockdown ability for ghosts (from Broodwar) and tweak it to become relevant - most importantly, affect all units. This way, it won't only be fungals and force fields to be angry at; people would also be able to be angry at terran, and the terrans would be able to enjoy locking down stuff. Disabling is here to stay in RTS, but if one race only faces disabling and doesn't use it, they get mad. How Lockdown helps? It can lock a bunch of infestors, it can lock a bunch of brood lords. This is still just a rough idea, and needs tweaking (eg: perhaps should not be able to lockdown a mothership), but the general idea is: give Terran some powerful disabling spell like fungal and force field. People cry about disabling, I say: the solution is more disabling.  | ||
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Coffeeling
Finland250 Posts
*time passes* "Hello again people turns out that change was retarded and didn't work (who would've thought), so we're reducing the HP of Infested Terran eggs by 20 because this totally fixes how spammable they are and how the eggs don't have any target priority so your army will still murder and rolfstomp that zergling traipsing around there and not the army of doom waiting to hatch. On top of it all, the eggs just may regenerate so Protoss' Storms may not even kill them but we didn't think of this at all. We reiterate that there are no win percentage problems with Zerg because we live in fairy tale land. How's this?" *tumbleweeds* On November 30 2012 11:08 Shiori wrote: These are the most embarrassingly worthless changes possible. I'm seriously contemplating quitting this game if this is how Blizzard approaches balance. This. SO. MUCH. THIS. If we want to play a good RTS in the future, Starcraft 2 NEEDS TO DIE. It has such a stranglehold currently that most companies probably won't even bother. And at any rate Blizzard needs to be sent a signal that no, their products frankly aren't good at all. You do that by leaving the Heart of the Swarm box on the shelf. | ||
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Sworm_MS
17 Posts
With that kind of attitude from the developer (patching eggs) i have no wish to play except for pirated single version. | ||
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r1flEx
Belgium256 Posts
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
I might quit this game, Forever even. This is not how a strategy game should be like, its...embarassing tbh | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On December 01 2012 19:52 Coffee Zombie wrote: "Hey folks Fungal Growth is OP because it's this large AoE root thing that deals damage and kinda fucks everything up because it only does everything and stuff. So, uh, how about it just not affecting some units at all? That'll fix things, right?" *time passes* "Hello again people turns out that change was retarded and didn't work (who would've thought), so we're reducing the HP of Infested Terran eggs by 20 because this totally fixes how spammable they are and how the eggs don't have any target priority so your army will still murder and rolfstomp that zergling traipsing around there and not the army of doom waiting to hatch. On top of it all, the eggs just may regenerate so Protoss' Storms may not even kill them but we didn't think of this at all. We reiterate that there are no win percentage problems with Zerg because we live in fairy tale land. How's this?" *tumbleweeds* This. SO. MUCH. THIS. If we want to play a good RTS in the future, Starcraft 2 NEEDS TO DIE. It has such a stranglehold currently that most companies probably won't even bother. And at any rate Blizzard needs to be sent a signal that no, their products frankly aren't good at all. You do that by leaving the Heart of the Swarm box on the shelf. Starcraft 2 doesn't need to die for another top level RTS, with E-sports potential to exist. If anything, Starcraft 2 needs to succeed. Why would any developer who isn't retarded see the sequel to the most beloved competitive RTS series ever fail and think 'wow, that's a genre that we should make an E-sports game for'? Starcraft 2 needs to be successful for another few years, perhaps naturally decline or peak, and at that point a developer would be pretty sensible to try and make a game for the same market. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 01 2012 19:19 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Cute. The fixed version: Dustin Browder: Full time game designer. Platinum player. Part of a balance team including David Kim (former/current GM player) and many sophisticated tools and data to determine balance. Ryung: GSL 2012 Quarter Finalist Playing on GSL since April 2011 Just lost probably the most important game of his career (prob just because he forgot seige mode) and is kinda angry/upset about it. Who should I listen to now hmm?? Seriously, anyone who takes the words of a guy who just lost a game and is likely in a very emotional state as a serious balance argument needs to get their head read. /nerf infestors /do it sensibly /stop hating blizzard. Even zergs say zerg is imba... | ||
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Bahajinbo
Germany488 Posts
The one before was great (maybe the fungals should still hit warp prims and DTs) and would bring the balance back, I think. Especially because ghosts and HTs would be the counter to infestors. But blizzard just loves zerg. And hates terran. | ||
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k1p3r
Russian Federation51 Posts
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 01 2012 20:55 Bahajinbo wrote: This patch is a joke. The one before was great (maybe the fungals should still hit warp prims and DTs) and would bring the balance back, I think. Especially because ghosts and HTs would be the counter to infestors. But blizzard just loves zerg. And hates terran. Can we please stop with these silly statements. Before it was "ZOMG blizzard loves terran! Look they even has teran shirt!" and now its this zerg nonsense. | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
nobody else noticed something its wrong about that? its should costs at least 200/200 and at least 3 of supply, damn its the powerful spellcaster of the game and its cheap as hell this would be even a better change than that useless eggs nerf | ||
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Bahajinbo
Germany488 Posts
On December 01 2012 20:59 Assirra wrote: Can we please stop with these silly statements. Before it was "ZOMG blizzard loves terran! Look they even has teran shirt!" and now its this zerg nonsense. Nonsense? Look at the current TvZs. Everything is said. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:03 Snowbear wrote: I hope riot decides to make an RTS like sc2, that would be so epic! Hm... Do I hope for a firm that has managed to make a worse game out of a cool WC3 funmap? | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
Remove Pathogen Glands. Voila! It's now much harder to go straight into Infestor without going Muta or Roach first without dying but they still have the same final end game impact as before. | ||
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murphs
Ireland418 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:03 Snowbear wrote: I hope riot decides to make an RTS like sc2, that would be so epic! lol, this thread has reached full retard. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:10 Bahajinbo wrote: Nonsense? Look at the current TvZs. Everything is said. No he's 100% right? Blizzard got slaughtered by the SC community, especially on TL for patching too frequently, and nerfing Terran too much. Now when Blizzard, whose representatives have said on numerous occasions that they don't want to patch as much, but let us figure it out, the community is bitching that they AREN'T patching. If Blizzard come out and say, 'Infestor is fine, no changes' by all means go and flame them. However they've said that they view the infestor as an issue, and they're trying to address it. It's got nothing to do with being anti-Terran, pro-Zerg or anything, it's a manifestation of a change in patching philosophy. | ||
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