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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:18 Eee wrote: This is not true, WCG was always one of the best esport tournaments in the world, it started to get bad after the economic crisis. However 2011 was the first year it was really bad. Most people here were small kids when WCG was one of the only true places of solid competition. It's not surprising that people with such opinions exist, but the misinformation and general badmouthing of WCG is frankly annoying. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:25 divito wrote: Most people here were small kids when WCG was one of the only true places of solid competition. It's not surprising that people with such opinions exist, but the misinformation and general badmouthing of WCG is frankly annoying. I was sixteen when it first started? Honestly read up on all the drama on the Brood War forums. There is a ton of it. It wasn't because of the economic crisis. Regionals were outsourced and in many cases very poorly managed. I love it when people speak as if they were there when they clearly were not. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:29 StarStruck wrote: I was sixteen when it first started? Honestly read up on all the drama on the Brood War forums. There is a ton of it. It wasn't because of the economic crisis. Regionals were outsourced and in many cases very poorly managed. I love it when people speak as if they were there when they clearly were not. I never mentioned anything about an economic crisis... Regionals have ALWAYS been like that. Organizations (or small groups of people) offer their services and you have to meet criteria to run qualifiers in your country. I've helped with several of Canada's in the past. WCG does not have the capability to send their staff to every country that wants qualifiers, they have to utilize the local "talent" to do it for them. Sure, some years, they've had to use a bunch of people that didn't really know what they were doing, and I've heard the issues in Canada (in the years I stopped helping), the US, and other countries about their qualifiers, but that's the nature of the beast. There isn't any other organization that tries to do something on the scale that WCG does. WCG sends plenty of material, press kits, and other merchandise to help. Whether that support has waned in recent years, I can't personally say, but when I was around the scene, it was just fine. People also don't know, or realize, that the WCG is the marketing arm of Samsung, and a few others. It's not run like other tournaments. It's more of a technology convention that includes a tournament than anything else. WCG tries to do something that no one else does, and obviously has to rely on individual partners in other countries to accomplish their goals. I'd say, between the language barriers, local issues in terms of players, venues, sponsors and other factors, they've done a tremendous job over the years; especially in the wake of money being pulled from WCG over the last number of years. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
Sad you couldnt go DF!! Keep it realz! DF FIGHTING | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
As for the rest, spot on and Samsung will never change it. May I ask which Regionals you helped within Canada? divito as for the scale. I think the scale has come along way over the years. Back then, yeah no one was doing it quite like the WCG. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:50 StarStruck wrote: May I ask which Regionals you helped within Canada? From 2001 in Markham (was at Super Station? I think it was called), until at least 2003. TFL was the organization I helped with for a number of years. I don't remember when I stopped helping and just competed. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:57 divito wrote: From 2001 in Markham (was at Super Station? I think it was called), until at least 2003. TFL was the organization I helped with for a number of years. I don't remember when I stopped helping and just competed. Oh shit I I met you then. lol :D | ||
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
On November 27 2012 03:44 StarStruck wrote: Have you actually been to a WCG tournament? We had all sorts of problems in Canada in the past. Sorry, but I've been following the tournament since it's inception and almost every year we hear terrible accounts. Many of which include the refs and how bad the administration is. Exactly. I've never been to the actual tournament (just some qualifiers in Montreal in a LAN Party) but I remember having some qualifiers in Montreal and they were not even able to send the people who won the qualifiers the actual tournament or region finals or something like that. Canada isn't better in term of WCG. Did they even send the players who won in the WCG Montreal qualifiers of Cs 1.6, Guitar Hero, Forza and Fifa to the Finals in LA in 2010?? | ||
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
It's seriously just a clusterfuck. I can't even imagine having to actually be in contact with the people who are trying to get your information if something goes wrong. Sorry to hear this is what happened -- too bad they won't be fixing this any time soon.. or at least it seems ..  | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
I just got my visa to china for christmas.. well i had a little more safety buffer in case something goes wrong. I live in bavaria too and i always send my visa application to berlin to an agency which handles all the shit with the consulate. thats usually the better solution. So i guess the information from WCG was bad in the first place. Dunno if it would have been possible to apply earlier. | ||
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starchosengirl
Australia39 Posts
now there is seriously NO ONE worth rooting for. at least they still have warcraft 3 oh wait, THEY DIDN'T INVITE LUCIFER BUT INVITED MOON AND SOME OTHER RANDOM NIGHT ELF INSTEAD #hashtags are gay #pissed off #i hate my life | ||
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
I really hope WCG will actually start to get their shit together, because it hasn't been that long since they were the most important tournament in foreign starcraft, and I would love to consider the World Cyber Games (pretty cool thing if you think about it) as a major tournament to look forward to again. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On November 27 2012 04:29 StarStruck wrote: I was sixteen when it first started? Honestly read up on all the drama on the Brood War forums. There is a ton of it. It wasn't because of the economic crisis. Regionals were outsourced and in many cases very poorly managed. I love it when people speak as if they were there when they clearly were not. You can't really blame the local qualifiers on the main organization since they were never truly arranged by them. WCGs local hubs have always been handled by different companies/people/volounteers. Economic crisis were a part of it, WCG cut down a lot of prize money after the crisis, the local organiziers stopped sending representatives in many games (For example the whole of Scandinavia only had one paid seed the year after the crisis, compared to earlier where Sweden used to have 2 paid seeds, Denmark 1, Norway 1, Finland 1.). This lead a lot of teams to boycotting the WCG qualifier that year. This was the year the tournament was held in LA, and I remember that due too the low intrest of WCG that year the organizers minimized the prizepot on the final day because they had went minus by a lot. | ||
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