EPT[Rumor] SPL New Season, Possible Foreign Team Addition - P…
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On November 26 2012 00:50 Adreme wrote: They really wouldnt lose a single match. Each KeSPA team seems to have one ace who can play with the code S players but that would do better with a GSTL format. In a proleague format even if you can count on that one guy to win his match you still have the rest of your team going up against Code S level players when they themselves are mid code A at best at the moment. proleague is a totally different nature. Starcraft 2 doesn't have such regularly scheduled team leagues (by which I mean on a weekly basis). the finalists for gstl season 3 are going have played a total of 5 matches (with the finals included). The gstls are bo9 while proleague is recently bo5, yet a halfyear of proleague has more games than 1.5 gstls (3 gstls a year, and recently proleague had 2 half-year seasons for sk planet season 1 and season 2). kespa teams will make a player be a specialist for 1-2 maps only and can do that for weeks, match after match (unless a round or two is back to winners league format). gstl teams don't train for such a dedicated teamleague atmosphere. everyone is focused on gsl and overall skill across many maps. anyways, not surprised to see OnLoLnet recognising LoL is their future. | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
 , at least now I won't have to struggle cheering in ACE vs Woongjin matches I guess, but it's sad to see the Airforce stop playing D: | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
On November 26 2012 01:09 N.geNuity wrote: proleague is a totally different nature. Starcraft 2 doesn't have such regularly scheduled team leagues (by which I mean on a weekly basis). the finalists for gstl season 3 are going have played a total of 5 matches (with the finals included). The gstls are bo9 while proleague is recently bo5, yet a halfyear of proleague has more games than 1.5 gstls (3 gstls a year, and recently proleague had 2 half-year seasons for sk planet season 1 and season 2). kespa teams will make a player be a specialist for 1-2 maps only and can do that for weeks, match after match (unless a round or two is back to winners league format). gstl teams don't train for such a dedicated teamleague atmosphere. everyone is focused on gsl and overall skill across many maps. anyways, not surprised to see OnLoLnet recognising LoL is their future. well, lets face it riot > blizzard. they've already been fucked over once, it would be stupid of them to risk it happening again by dedicating themselves too much to sc2. besides, sc2 isnt very popular korea. | ||
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Slickpick
United Kingdom21 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On November 25 2012 23:55 quannguyen wrote:EG: Stephano, Puma, JYP, Thorzain, Demuslim, Idra, Huk and (possibly) Byul is also a very sick lineup if it was 1 year ago. With their performances in recent tourneys, except for JYP, Stephano and Byul, they'll not stand much of a chance. Most recently, Idra won his group at WCS, beating Stephano and Roro without dropping a map. ThorZain beat Naniwa and ForGG pretty convincingly, and put up a hell of a fight against Taeja at DreamHack Winter. I don't think they can be counted out completely. Neither is gonna be your ace or starting player, but there's no reason Idra wouldn't be a credible ZvZ/ZvT player. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 26 2012 01:27 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Most recently, Idra won his group at WCS, beating Stephano and Roro without dropping a map. ThorZain beat Naniwa and ForGG pretty convincingly, and put up a hell of a fight against Taeja at DreamHack Winter. I don't think they can be counted out completely. Neither is gonna be your ace or starting player, but there's no reason Idra wouldn't be a credible ZvZ/ZvT player. Yeah they can. Good days are good days, but that doesn't matter because they'll have more Koreeeeans soon. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On November 26 2012 01:24 Slickpick wrote: Azubu finally announce a full sc2 team? Possibility of that is remote, but still very real. Still not watching PL, though. Would rather watch LoL the Champions Winter. SHY'S SINGED IS BEST SINGED. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
On November 26 2012 02:02 Xpace wrote: EG would probably do very well, or at least produce interesting games if they do end up going. Assuming they play at their best (Chinese IdrA, pre-slump Stephano, NASL Puma, 2011 Korean Huk, SlayerS_JYP, Suppy!, and Thorzain). Pre-Sc2 Incontrol !! | ||
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Stress
United States980 Posts
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
On November 26 2012 02:02 Xpace wrote: EG would probably do very well, or at least produce interesting games if they do end up going. Assuming they play at their best (Chinese IdrA, pre-slump Stephano, NASL Puma, 2011 Korean Huk, SlayerS_JYP, Suppy!, and Thorzain). SlayerS_JYP? | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
From when SlayerS+EG were partnered, and JYP was beastie | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
either he meant TSL or he was talking about when JYP helped Slayers dominate during GSTL (As Slayers-EG) | ||
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larse
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Cinquedea
Canada144 Posts
if so thats lame.. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On November 26 2012 01:27 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Most recently, Idra won his group at WCS, beating Stephano and Roro without dropping a map. ThorZain beat Naniwa and ForGG pretty convincingly, and put up a hell of a fight against Taeja at DreamHack Winter. I don't think they can be counted out completely. Neither is gonna be your ace or starting player, but there's no reason Idra wouldn't be a credible ZvZ/ZvT player. Winnig 4 maps doesn't make you a viable PL-player. Everyone can have good days, just look at Haypro back at MLG Providence. It's about consistency and I highly doubt any foreigner would but up a fight against the Kespa teams. Sure, they can take of games or even series here and there at weekend tournaments, but Proleague is something different - probably even harder for foreigners than GSL. The only teams in the world I could imagine in PL are IM, MVP, Startale and TSL, maybe Prime, but they lack Zergs and FXO relies too much on streaky players like Gumibear. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On November 26 2012 00:50 Adreme wrote: They really wouldnt lose a single match. Each KeSPA team seems to have one ace who can play with the code S players but that would do better with a GSTL format. In a proleague format even if you can count on that one guy to win his match you still have the rest of your team going up against Code S level players when they themselves are mid code A at best at the moment. Of course they will lose matches , i think they will also struggle to maintain the top spots . First of all MMA , DRG , TAiLS and jjakji have had poor performance recently . The other players while good and consistant aren't unbeatable . Proleague format is very different from GSTL and the Kespa teams have had a lot of experience on it . Also just because you see a select number of Kespa players doing well , doesn't meen that the other players are somehow way below their level . Thought it's impossible to tell where anyone ranks right now , it's safe to assume that the Kespa players are practising as hard as anyone to maintain their jobs and salaries in the future . On November 26 2012 02:39 ES.Genie wrote: Winnig 4 maps doesn't make you a viable PL-player. Everyone can have good days, just look at Haypro back at MLG Providence. It's about consistency and I highly doubt any foreigner would but up a fight against the Kespa teams. Sure, they can take of games or even series here and there at weekend tournaments, but Proleague is something different - probably even harder for foreigners than GSL. The only teams in the world I could imagine in PL are IM, MVP, Startale and TSL, maybe Prime, but they lack Zergs and FXO relies too much on streaky players like Gumibear. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season The MvP tournament pretty much showed whats up . Only Naniwa had a positive record there . Foreigners lack consistancy which is the thing you need to have to successed in Proleague . On November 26 2012 01:09 Luepert wrote: Hmm, why not some EFS teams, IM/MVP/Startale would be worthy adversaries for the Kespa teams. The problem is ESF functions as one unit now , much like Kespa and if you want one you'll probably have to take them all . This is the best thing that could happen , but it would take a lot of diplomatic action from both sides . | ||
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