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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
November 25 2012 17:51 GMT
#141
NONONONONONONO...
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 17:56:15
November 25 2012 17:52 GMT
#142
"Because it is an expansion to the same game, the change should not have too much of an effect on the league."

Just like when BW was released. The Lurker, Medic and DT didn't do a damn thing for the meta. This should be smooth sailing for the players

GSTL and SPL will run side by side? That's very disappointing. Merge and get it over with
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 25 2012 18:03 GMT
#143
Damn, sc2 really fell short on OGN huh. :/
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 25 2012 18:07 GMT
#144
On November 26 2012 02:46 raga4ka wrote:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season
The MvP tournament pretty much showed whats up . Only Naniwa had a positive record there . Foreigners lack consistancy which is the thing you need to have to successed in Proleague .


The MvP tournament didn't show anything. Online play, cross-server, riddled with dropouts and forfeits. It was less than meaningless competitively.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 25 2012 18:20 GMT
#145
On November 26 2012 03:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:46 raga4ka wrote:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season
The MvP tournament pretty much showed whats up . Only Naniwa had a positive record there . Foreigners lack consistancy which is the thing you need to have to successed in Proleague .


The MvP tournament didn't show anything. Online play, cross-server, riddled with dropouts and forfeits. It was less than meaningless competitively.


In my book online play and cross - server should have helped the foreigners more . I don't imagine them doing better at lan settings , where they have to play for the whole year ( they started forfeiting a month long tournament when they were behind , can they be professional enough to take a year's long tournament even if they are losing at the start ? ) . Kespa teams had a decade of experience in proleague .

To do good in proleague you need to have depth and a lot of motivation . Sadly i don't see a foreign team who has those . I will still be rooting and be proud of them if they can last a whole season , even if they end up last much like AirForce ACE was in the old days .
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 18:24:14
November 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#146
On November 25 2012 17:11 sevia wrote:
How many players is EG fielding in Korea right now? In the past, I feel like they haven't been too big on having their foreign superstars staying overseas.

Fnatic doesn't seem to have a big enough roster to me.

FXO it is then, by all indications. Unless Nazgul can pull off something crazy.


Puma, JYP, Huk and possibly Byul if he joins.

There's talk of sending Idra, Demuslim, Thorzain and Stephano over again next year from what I understand. That looks like a pretty threatening roster to me.

Though I think it'll most likely be FXO due to their locality.

Edit - though if Boss says it isn't FXO then I don't know. It'd be awesome if it was EG. Though EG's players are starting to practise HotS full time now so if they have to go back to WoL for it I don't imagine it'd go well. It'd be cool to see Liquid involved, though they could do with adding another player or they'd be stuck with just 5 players in Korea - though Taeja and Hero are like 3 players each anyway.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
November 25 2012 18:22 GMT
#147
EG or TL ?

TL should be better because they are better i guess.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 25 2012 18:25 GMT
#148
Hmm from the 3 possible choices I think FXO would be the best. They have a strong enough line up to compete. Though I do think GSTL and PL should just merge into one big team league with split broadcasting I twould be so sick to follow a league like that.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
November 25 2012 18:26 GMT
#149
As much as I want the rumor to be true and the team be EG, I think Fnatic would be better. The thing is though, if it were FXO/Fnatic, then they can't use their Korean roster because the ESF teams would have to be part of the SPL...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 25 2012 18:30 GMT
#150
On November 25 2012 21:53 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
But does EG or EG/TL have $100k to pay license to enter proleague? (amount I remember long time ago that each team pays yearly)

Does EG have even more money?

Are all the rumours true??

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1345eu/evil_geniuses_to_enter_next_season_of_proleague/

;D Seriously though, EG is pretty likely by now, not sure if they'll be successful as a team looking at their recent performances in team leagues and individual events. But I guess it might spark some more interest in OGN broadcasts in the foreign scene which they dearly need. Hopefully the production is up to par.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
November 25 2012 18:35 GMT
#151
EG in proleague would be amazing :O
can i get my estro logo back pls
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 25 2012 18:37 GMT
#152
On November 26 2012 03:03 Gosi wrote:
Damn, sc2 really fell short on OGN huh. :/


It fell short for many other reasons. The hybrid certainly didn't help and the movement was way too late.

You have to take notice of what everyone else in the scene is doing or else you miss the boat.

BW was all about being at the right place at the right time.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 25 2012 18:37 GMT
#153
No offense but any foregner team in Proleague would be an absolute slaughter.
We are talking about a format where not 1-3 people can carry your team like in other team leagues and i simply don't see any team up for the task.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
November 25 2012 18:39 GMT
#154
TLO just moved back to Berlin, it TL was to play in Proleague he would have stayed.

EG it is.
I am not good with quotes
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 25 2012 18:40 GMT
#155
On November 26 2012 03:30 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 21:53 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
But does EG or EG/TL have $100k to pay license to enter proleague? (amount I remember long time ago that each team pays yearly)

Does EG have even more money?

Are all the rumours true??

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1345eu/evil_geniuses_to_enter_next_season_of_proleague/

;D Seriously though, EG is pretty likely by now, not sure if they'll be successful as a team looking at their recent performances in team leagues and individual events. But I guess it might spark some more interest in OGN broadcasts in the foreign scene which they dearly need. Hopefully the production is up to par.


They have the money to enter. The thing is they need more talent and I'm sure Hwanni is working on those lines.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#156
If a foreign team plays in SPL it's gonna be the joke team
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 25 2012 18:47 GMT
#157
On November 26 2012 03:20 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:46 raga4ka wrote:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season
The MvP tournament pretty much showed whats up . Only Naniwa had a positive record there . Foreigners lack consistancy which is the thing you need to have to successed in Proleague .


The MvP tournament didn't show anything. Online play, cross-server, riddled with dropouts and forfeits. It was less than meaningless competitively.


In my book online play and cross - server should have helped the foreigners more . I don't imagine them doing better at lan settings , where they have to play for the whole year ( they started forfeiting a month long tournament when they were behind , can they be professional enough to take a year's long tournament even if they are losing at the start ? ) . Kespa teams had a decade of experience in proleague .


There were a lot of reasons for the forfeits. Players were disgruntled by the prizepool, which was extremely topheavy. Players from big teams especially were upset at the relative lack of publicifty for their teams and sponsors; MLG, especially in the early weeks, seemed to take the lions' share of credit for the players without acknowledging the teams in any way. The PPV aspect was another issue. Scheduling was tough for players who had multiple tournament commitments, including travel. All these issues were compounded by the short and sometimes nonexistant notice MLG gave to the players of these problems. Some of them pulled out because they didn't want to support a PPV tournament; I think Stephano was one. Others dropped out because the tournament wasn't providing the value to their teams they expected. And others saw the entire thing as an excuse to give KeSPA players some seeds into Dallas. For the most part, though, it wasn't results-based.
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ian952
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada124 Posts
November 25 2012 18:48 GMT
#158
LiquidEGAxFanaticRC gogogo
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 25 2012 19:06 GMT
#159
On November 26 2012 03:30 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 21:53 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
But does EG or EG/TL have $100k to pay license to enter proleague? (amount I remember long time ago that each team pays yearly)

Does EG have even more money?

Are all the rumours true??

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1345eu/evil_geniuses_to_enter_next_season_of_proleague/

;D Seriously though, EG is pretty likely by now, not sure if they'll be successful as a team looking at their recent performances in team leagues and individual events. But I guess it might spark some more interest in OGN broadcasts in the foreign scene which they dearly need. Hopefully the production is up to par.


I think people are underestimating EG. They only haven't really performed in the MCSL recently. They did well in IPTL, and ESEA with their "backup" roster.

Individually JYP's performed well in GSL, Demuslim's been crushing in NASL, Idra's coming back to form with a great performance at BWC after a good show at MLG, Stephano is Stephano, Thorzain played well at Dreamhack only narrowly losing to Taeja... Only Puma and Huk are really having difficulty and both are still more than capable of taking games as we can see in NASL.

Even LzGamer and Incontrol were just a few games away from getting into groups at MLG, LzGamer lost to Rain and I think InControl lost to Binski, not sure. Their roster is far from being weak. With all of them, plus maybe Byul, training together in Korea there's a lot that could happen.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
November 25 2012 19:06 GMT
#160
Holy... Quality of games will be way better this season without hybrid proleague, and can't wait for eg :D . However, this means they will stay in Korea? At least they can train properly if that happens
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