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Acer1791
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany182 Posts
November 26 2012 02:25 GMT
#201
damn i hope there will be a fantasy league for this.
hopefully proleague will do decent in korea, could be the deciding factor for the future of sc2 in korea :/
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
November 26 2012 02:30 GMT
#202
ERMAGERRRD EG
They better go with their full line up otherwise they wont stand a chance.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 02:39:06
November 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#203
On November 26 2012 11:11 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:09 ArvickHero wrote:
any of these foreign teams would be the new ACE lol, there's nothing that can beat a KeSPA team in terms of preparation. Also, I hope SC2 PL doesn't go the same way SF2 PL did, but I'm not optimistic at all.


FXO would dominate Proleague.

EG/Fnatic would probably be Ace-level. EG could probably do pretty decently if they all moved to Korea and were there for four months straight, but seeing as everyone on EG is always traveling to foreign events, they'd probably get smashed.

well good thing this next proleague will be during the down time of most events. DH is done for awhile, MLG is done for awhile, NASL will be done for awhile shortly. IPL the same. No more WCS. Only thing really going on is IEM. Sure there will be HSC and some other smaller things, but I'd imagine most of them would be good with going to korea for a few months. Thorzain said awhile back he was going to Korea after DH Winter.
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 26 2012 02:42 GMT
#204
It's gotta be EG
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soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 26 2012 02:52 GMT
#205
Sometimes I feel like EG will run out of money. I know they won't because their management seem to be incredibly good business men, but holy shit they do spend a lot of money. Sometimes I think EG should get rid of their WoW and QL division, focus on SC2, Dota 2, get a good League team, and FGC.
Evil Geniuses<3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51715 Posts
November 26 2012 02:59 GMT
#206
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 26 2012 03:00 GMT
#207
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


they do have Hwanni though, but he's definitely not a strategy coach lol.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
November 26 2012 03:02 GMT
#208
On November 26 2012 12:00 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


they do have Hwanni though, but he's definitely not a strategy coach lol.

I never understood this...is Hwanni the manager of the team or the coach, and if not strategy then what does he do? Because I thought that the manager was InControl.
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 26 2012 03:04 GMT
#209
On November 26 2012 11:19 Gamegene wrote:
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On November 26 2012 08:38 Proseat wrote:
"Liquid Geniuses" / "Evil Liquid" would make a lot more sense roster-wise. But I guess it will never happen because of conflicting sponsors.


It would be like a marvel/DC crossover comic :D.

Superman with Thor's Hammer and Captain America's Shield...!

Batman in an Iron Man suit

Btw, the EsportsTV Youtube channel has Korean vods of the Mvp invitational, but it seems that they can't be viewed in the US so I can't watch it. I wonder how the production value for it is.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 03:11:37
November 26 2012 03:07 GMT
#210
On November 26 2012 12:02 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 12:00 Gamegene wrote:
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


they do have Hwanni though, but he's definitely not a strategy coach lol.

I never understood this...is Hwanni the manager of the team or the coach, and if not strategy then what does he do? Because I thought that the manager was InControl.


incontrol is the team captain, the way hwanni talks about it in inteviews, he sounds like he is a coach, but he doesn't necessarily advise players on strategies or tactics.

i think he probably advises on mentality, sets up practice schedules, chooses the roster orders, etc but won't tell his players which build orders to do in matches.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 03:16:36
November 26 2012 03:12 GMT
#211
Even better would be a combined GSTL/ProLeague situation, but it doesn't seem likely... I think LG-IM, MVP, FXO, and StarTale should be given positions in ProLeague because they have stability...

Edit: Looks like it's EG after all. I was really hoping for FXO
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illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
November 26 2012 03:17 GMT
#212
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


It's more than that, they don't even do good in foreign team leagues.
you live and you learn
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 26 2012 03:19 GMT
#213
On November 26 2012 12:17 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


It's more than that, they don't even do good in foreign team leagues.


That's not true. They did bad in their EGMC league, but they did good in IPTL and Esea.
When I think of something else, something will go here
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 26 2012 03:20 GMT
#214
On November 26 2012 12:17 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


It's more than that, they don't even do good in foreign team leagues.

top 4 in IPTL?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 26 2012 03:26 GMT
#215
On November 26 2012 12:02 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 12:00 Gamegene wrote:
On November 26 2012 11:59 GTR wrote:
EG will do okay, but they won't be as good as they can be simply because they lack a good coaching staff that the corporate teams have.


they do have Hwanni though, but he's definitely not a strategy coach lol.

I never understood this...is Hwanni the manager of the team or the coach, and if not strategy then what does he do? Because I thought that the manager was InControl.

iNcontroL is a player/captain/caster. Hwanni is a manager, mainly focusing on their operations in Korea which we will know more about soon.
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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 03:47:42
November 26 2012 03:43 GMT
#216
I really hope the next season of Proleague goes back to a Bo7 format. Bo5 meant that B-teamers never got a chance to play.

And only one round of winners' league, if any. Watching Jaedong and Bisu rack up multiple all-kills is fun, but the top level of competition really needs to expose more players.
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
November 26 2012 03:48 GMT
#217
eg.lzgamer hwaiting
JSy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 04:13:41
November 26 2012 03:50 GMT
#218
Because people seem to have the wrong impression of what IPTV is or are not familiar with the TV landscape in Korea. In comparison to the U.S., where AT&T U-verse is the only large IPTV service that I'm aware of and still relatively tiny compare to traditional cable companies, IPTV is not a small market. It is also definitely not an "online streaming service" like some people seem to think.

The three largest IPTV networks in Korea are U+TV (LG), Olleh (KT), and B TV (SK). SPOTV and SPOTV2 (they have two channels) are carried on all three just like OGN. There are few "cable channels" that aren't also IPTV channels and that number is matched or exceeded by channels that are IPTV-only.

Personally, SPOTV feels like a step down from OGN, but how could it not? With its roots in Tooniverse, OGN is the mecca of broadcast eSports for most of us. But times change and at least it's not a complete abandonment of StarCraft.

Trying to look on the bright side, SPOTV does have a cleaner stream than OGN (I haven't seen, nor do I even know if they have, a web stream, so I mean on television). Not just in-game but the channel as a whole. Their broadcast of the MvP tournament wasn't as exciting as OGN or GOM, but it was a replay-casted tournament, and they did a good job with it and used a professional sports-like format which OGN used again during their broadcast of BWC in Shanghai.

Basically, it's a shitty situation but less doom-and-gloom please.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 26 2012 03:52 GMT
#219
On November 26 2012 12:43 andrea20 wrote:
I really hope the next season of Proleague goes back to a Bo7 format. Bo5 meant that B-teamers never got a chance to play.

And only one round of winners' league, if any. Watching Jaedong and Bisu rack up multiple all-kills is fun, but the top level of competition really needs to expose more players.


Agreed. I dislike all kill all the time. It's why I love the kespa/EGMC format, 4 1v1's with possible ace (or if it's bo7 then 6 1v1's with possible ace).

I really wish more leagues did this format or at least switched off, best format is one season of normal then next one can be all kill. I like that style the best like kespa did with proleague in bw ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 26 2012 04:03 GMT
#220
On November 26 2012 12:52 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 12:43 andrea20 wrote:
I really hope the next season of Proleague goes back to a Bo7 format. Bo5 meant that B-teamers never got a chance to play.

And only one round of winners' league, if any. Watching Jaedong and Bisu rack up multiple all-kills is fun, but the top level of competition really needs to expose more players.


Agreed. I dislike all kill all the time. It's why I love the kespa/EGMC format, 4 1v1's with possible ace (or if it's bo7 then 6 1v1's with possible ace).

I really wish more leagues did this format or at least switched off, best format is one season of normal then next one can be all kill. I like that style the best like kespa did with proleague in bw ^_^.

Indeed, at least its put the team in teamleague. All-kills are fun and at all but they don't feel very teamlike and more just 1 player carrying.
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