Mrbitter mugged in china - Page 26

On November 17 2012 22:44 ReachTheSky wrote:
I find it interesting that he contacted his banks but not the police.

On November 17 2012 17:05 iamho wrote:
This didn't really happen, did it? You followed some stranger into a dark alley, where you met a gangster surrounded by scary-looking henchmen? Then, not only did you not call the cops, you didn't call the US embassy, but instead decided to post a long essay about your story to the gullible people on Reddit. Why didn't you record the license plate of the taxi? All the shanghai taxis have ID tags in front of the side seat so you can identify them as well. Why did you not read any street signs to figure out where the hell you where? Every street sign in Shanghai has pinyin, regardless of how "ghetto" the area is. Smells like BS.

There is also the sheer ridiculousness of getting mugged by 80s-movies Chinese gangsters while being in one of the safest cities in one of the safest countries in the world, where crimes against Western foreigners are taken extremely seriously. My guess of the real story is that this guy blew $1600 on alcohol/prostitutes/whatever, and wants the bank to reimburse him for it now because of these mysterious "gangsters." It makes me sick that guys like this mrbitter fellow so willingly exploit the sympathies of others.

On November 17 2012 22:44 ReachTheSky wrote:
I find it interesting that he contacted his banks but not the police.

On November 17 2012 23:51 Salient wrote:
Why is everyone assuming that the Chinese authorities are so corrupt or useless that it isn't worth reporting the crime? Why not give them a little respect by at least giving them the chance to help. I'm very suspicious of Mrbitter's story. He makes a Reddit thread instead of going to the police. The bank will investigate his fraud claim. I hope he told them the truth. Bank fraud is a felony.

On November 18 2012 00:03 ReachTheSky wrote:
I didn't put any blame on bitter, except for not contacting the police. Do you think the banks are gonna believe his claims of being robbed when there isn't even a police reported filed? Its suspicious and silly. The fact that he would post a thread about it and not even contact law enforcement is retarded. First you go to the police and then you go to the banks.

On November 18 2012 00:00 ramask2 wrote:


He is trying to tell the bank that he wasn't the one who has withdrawn the money. His problem wasn't that he's robbed, its that he now owes a lot of money to the bank. He MUST convince them that he was robbed. What happened to the thief are secondary.

All the police can do is arrest the thugs (which they most likely can't) and even then they won't find the money. Talking to a foreign police force probably wasn't a attractive prospect either. The bank can do that FOR him in their investigation.

Its ridiculous how some people are somehow putting the blame on Mr. Bitter.

On November 18 2012 00:07 gyurktle wrote:
They are trying to rationalize why he wouldn't tell police without admitting that it very suspiciously looks like Mr. Bitter got drunk and spent the money willingly..

On November 18 2012 00:09 ramask2 wrote:


No, you call the bank and ask for their advice. If they tell you to report to the police, you do that. And hell, how do you even know he hasn't contacted the police since then?

I thought its pretty clear the sole reason he posted a thread was to ask for moral support.

Calling someone who's robbed and panicking "retarded" is kinda uncool in my opinion.

On November 18 2012 00:10 gyurktle wrote:

So there are (supposedly) dangerous thugs on the loose who are kidnapping tourists and it is of no concern to get them arrested?

What about their future victims?

It seems this story isn't entirely true when you consider nobody cares enough to alert authorities. Only contacting the bank and asking for money? Really? Seems like the first priority should be protecting the public from such dangerous gangsters... if they exist.

On November 18 2012 00:12 ramask2 wrote:


So you are saying Mr. Bitter is trying to fool the bank by posting his lies on Reddit and teamliquid.....? Why would he do that?

If I'm doing something that shameful I'll be sure to keep it to myself.

On November 18 2012 00:17 ramask2 wrote:


Its actually kinda cute how hard you're trying to paint him in such a bad light lol. Keep trying. Just ask yourself, really, what would YOU do in this situation.

And yeah, in my country the police are generally slow and useless unless properly motivated with the right channel (bribes).

On November 18 2012 00:10 gyurktle wrote:

So there are (supposedly) dangerous thugs on the loose who are kidnapping tourists and it is of no concern to get them arrested?

What about their future victims?

It seems this story isn't entirely true when you consider nobody cares enough to alert authorities. Only contacting the bank and asking for money? Really? Seems like the first priority should be protecting the public from such dangerous gangsters... if they exist.

On November 18 2012 00:19 gyurktle wrote:

Most likely he would be trying to fool his peers by posting on teamliquid and reddit. I doubt his bank is reading his posts.

On November 18 2012 00:20 JinDesu wrote:


I think you've completely misread what he wrote. He wrote that the bank puts the onus of proof of theft on Bitters. Until Bitters can prove to the bank that he was a victim of theft, the bank won't care about the thieves.

Then he wrote that while going to the police directly may get the thieves arrested, it won't get the bank off his back necessarily. So what Bitters is doing is letting the bank take charge of the situation - as the bank has more resources to get police involvement. In addition, the bank has the card charge data and can coordinate with local authorities to investigate.

To me, Bitters should have asked his hotel for the cops once he was free and then call the bank after. However, calling the bank first to ask for next steps is not bad either. The bank would usually advise you to make a police report anyways.

On November 17 2012 17:05 iamho wrote:
This didn't really happen, did it? You followed some stranger into a dark alley, where you met a gangster surrounded by scary-looking henchmen? Then, not only did you not call the cops, you didn't call the US embassy, but instead decided to post a long essay about your story to the gullible people on Reddit. Why didn't you record the license plate of the taxi? All the shanghai taxis have ID tags in front of the side seat so you can identify them as well. Why did you not read any street signs to figure out where the hell you where? Every street sign in Shanghai has pinyin, regardless of how "ghetto" the area is. Smells like BS.

There is also the sheer ridiculousness of getting mugged by 80s-movies Chinese gangsters while being in one of the safest cities in one of the safest countries in the world, where crimes against Western foreigners are taken extremely seriously. My guess of the real story is that this guy blew $1600 on alcohol/prostitutes/whatever, and wants the bank to reimburse him for it now because of these mysterious "gangsters." It makes me sick that guys like this mrbitter fellow so willingly exploit the sympathies of others.

On November 18 2012 00:28 gyurktle wrote:

I read and understood very clearly what he wrote.

He wrote that not contacting police is reasonable, because "all the police can do is arrest the thugs".

That is absurd. Arresting dangerous gansters who are kidnapping tourists is of utmost importance.

The problem with trying to rationalize Mr Bitters behaviour as you are doing is that if you accept his story as true his behaviour is very irrational. This causes people to say silly things, like "all the police can do is arrest the thugs". That is like saying: "all a doctor can do is cure your illness". There is nothing rational about not contacting police in this case... unless he is lying. Then it makes sense.