On October 27 2012 08:06 sitromit wrote: What's interesting is that the guy who knocked him out couldn't make it into Code S either. I would be upset if I were Bomber. It feels kind of unfair.
Bomber? The guy is like the epitome of inconsistent.
So what? He beat Baby and knocked him out of Code A this very season, and he's still in Code A, while Baby gets to go to Code S. I mean if they seeded him 1 season later, it wouldn't look this bad, but now...
On October 27 2012 08:06 sitromit wrote: What's interesting is that the guy who knocked him out couldn't make it into Code S either. I would be upset if I were Bomber. It feels kind of unfair.
Bomber? The guy is like the epitome of inconsistent.
So what? He beat Baby and knocked him out of Code A this very season, and he's still in Code A, while Baby gets to go to Code S. I mean if they seeded him 1 season later, it wouldn't look this bad, but now...
One could argue that due to the weird format of the MvP tournament, many players might not have invested their effort in it as they would for a Code S qualifier. However, it is known that Code S decides seeds based on international competitions (often times in the past favoring particularly MLG). Also the Kespa players are now too important part of the scene and they were mostly represented in this tournament, making it more valid for such decision. I didn't see this coming, but perhaps the players should have seen this coming and play in the MvP like they would for getting Code S. And if they didn't, too bad for them.
In any case, happy for Soulkey! The Woongjin Zerg comes for you, IMMVP! The real Min Chul will revenge you, MC!
Not that I agree or don't agree with those 2 seeds, but I feel Gom should release a statement explaining why they give the seeds to who every season. Would bring hype and transparancy.
Kinda odd, but whatever. I don't think seeds are really that big of a deal. If somebody really deserves to be in code S, then they'll make it eventually, and if they get seeded and don't deserve to be in there, they'll get knocked out right away.
Cool choices (seeds), I wonder what Baby is really made of. Soulkey is kind of good-not-quite-stellar, I really think next season will by the by.Rain show again.
On October 27 2012 09:37 Waxangel wrote: Stephano has successfully dodged Code S for a year, neat
He will always go for the easy money and perpetuate the Myth of Stephano. The man is a cash cow and won't risk his image as the "best" foreigner.
On October 27 2012 08:06 sitromit wrote: What's interesting is that the guy who knocked him out couldn't make it into Code S either. I would be upset if I were Bomber. It feels kind of unfair.
Bomber? The guy is like the epitome of inconsistent.
So what? He beat Baby and knocked him out of Code A this very season, and he's still in Code A, while Baby gets to go to Code S. I mean if they seeded him 1 season later, it wouldn't look this bad, but now...
Yea, it does feel very unfair to Bomber
It does feel unfair for any guy in Code A who got past the Ro48 but didn't make it to Code S...... (though I admit not all could get this score at MvP).
On October 26 2012 21:42 Kasaraki wrote: Christ, that table is even worse on the second viewing. >_<
Ah well, I thought GOM would be more careful with their seeds after Jaedong disappointed as strongly as he did last time, but should be fun anyway. Not the seeds I wanted, and I don't agree with the pick of Baby, but what can you do...
Jaedong was close in two of the series.
Against MC:
1. He was about to win the first game (the first VOD is free of his game I think). He over extended a few times and ended up losing a huge advantage. Even though he lost, the game showed he had the capabilities to match with MC and win it.
2. Second Game - He was preparing a huge roach drop but ended up splitting his army in half against MC. MC attacked while most of his roaches were in overlords.
If he had his army together, the game would have been different (the game wouldn't have ended for him there).
Same as above - MC didn't sweep him easily in the series. Jaedong showed he was Code S material.
Against MKP:
1. First game did well and won.
2. Second game got cheesed and almost defended it.
3. It ended up being a base race and "AGAIN", he "almost" won >.<.
Jaedong had bad luck IMO.
He almost won in all the games but ended up losing.
On October 27 2012 08:06 sitromit wrote: What's interesting is that the guy who knocked him out couldn't make it into Code S either. I would be upset if I were Bomber. It feels kind of unfair.
Bomber? The guy is like the epitome of inconsistent.
So what? He beat Baby and knocked him out of Code A this very season, and he's still in Code A, while Baby gets to go to Code S. I mean if they seeded him 1 season later, it wouldn't look this bad, but now...
Like foreigners getting Code S seed and Naniwa himself even stating it's unfair, it's something that has to be done to keep viewers and to stay competitive.
If it weren't for the whole KeSPA vs ESF thing (or KeSPA going into SC2), I wouldn't even bother watching GSL (except maybe the first free matches of Ro4 and the Grand Finals).
While it may be unfair, it's what needs to be done to sort of keep SC2 and eSports and GSL alive. It helps everyone in the business in a way (if it succeeds and by everyone, I mean people who can manage to stay relevant). Obviously if there was less competition, that'd be good for people who are still interested in watching SC2. But if there was less competition, there might be less viewers too which means the scene may be more fragile.
Of course a lot of this is just theory crafting.
As for whether Baby is more Code S material than Bomber? Since it seems they picked him because he's doing well in the MvP tournament, that's fair (in the sense that if they were giving KeSPA players, and only KeSPA players, seeds, they're basing it off of something at least). If they kept picking Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, or Flash (regardless of their results), then that'd be unfair to the players and if they end up not doing well, viewer hype for KeSPA players also goes down.
Yes I know, long way to travel and too little prize money for the amount of time/dedication etc etc
Say what you say about Naniwa, I ain't got nothing but praise for him as a player. He is proof that with determination and practise in the right environment you can compete at the highest level (GSL Code S).
It almost seems like tradition now for GOM to have a completely incorrect English graphic at the start of a Code S season. They misspelled Squirtle's name again, lol.