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woww.. slayers jessica....
shame on her
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On October 23 2012 07:19 Subversive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:17 Subversive wrote:On October 23 2012 07:14 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:12 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:04 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people.
it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. Saving e-mails, yes. Recording I believe you need to have the other person's consent. I know of a case where it was thrown out of court because it wasn't. Korean law is all that matters here, so any anecdotal evidence to the contrary from another country is irrelevant. I am not aware of Korean law on the matter, but am almost positive that Jessica is not doing anything illegal here. besides, we aren't talking about court cases, but a private dispute between two private individuals. User was warned for this post Let me recap it, so I get it right: 1. You say only korean law is relevant. 2. You say you don't know anything about it. 3. You say you are sure she did nothing wrong. --- leaves me puzzled. I would like to live in your world for a day, just for the experience. only Korean law is relevant, because we are discussing Korean law. I am not entirely aware of the specific laws in this case, but am pretty sure, since no one from the area is calling for her to be arrested or trying to pursue this legally, that she is not doing anything illegal. pretty simple, dude... You have no idea about Korean law. And you base your assumption on the fact that no one (that you have heard of in this article) is trying to take legal action. Just retract your statement or amend it to "I am not really sure, but I would be surprised if this were illegal in Korea - it certainly isn't here". Because while you dismiss the german poster for giving his imput about his country you have no better knowledge yourself. I dismissed his anecdotal evidence concerning a court case in Germany as relevant to a legal fact in Korea. and I was right.... so.... I don't know what you're talking about. You dismissed it with no better information. That's why everyone called you on it.
my information was better, dude, because I was right. and it took 5 seconds for me to find the source of the information. everyone who "called me out" was wrong...
edit: even further, my dismissal of his "evidence", even if it was off of intuition (common sense), was still more valid than his assertion about Korean law, based on German law...
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On October 23 2012 07:19 TapetalKarma wrote:
woww.. slayers jessica....
shame on her
lol she has no shame, clearly
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On October 23 2012 07:05 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:51 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:40 TrickyGilligan wrote:On October 23 2012 06:35 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:32 BRaegO wrote:On October 23 2012 06:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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I didn't categorize you, I just thought it was hilarious that you did exactly what I said (someone like) you would do.
I didn't realize being grown up was calling someone you don't know a bitch for doing things that haven't been confirmed to have been done. guess I learn something new every day, right? And "someone like you would do" isn't categorizing? Apparently you aren't one of the kids that are learning something new everyday.(psst categorizing... do you see it.. one of those kids)... look: I said that there were a lot of people saying: "MMA said different, so that proves Jessica is a bitch." than you come out, right after, and say, basically: "MMA says different, so that proves Jessica is a manipulative bitch." so I lol'd at the irony and pointed it out, and then you got mad. well, I'm gonna give you a reason to be really mad, because I'm about to really categorize you: people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day. There have been literally hundreds of pages of drama surrounding this. We're way past the point of "jumping to conclusions based on nothing." This is TL though, so I guess we need 3 different peer-reviewed sources before we can make a decision about anything. jumping to conclusions based on the biased statement of one side is pretty much jumping to conclusions based on nothing. especially when this thread has become, basically, a discussion about Boxer and Jessica's love-life between people who have almost all: 1) never met either of them, and 2) don't even speak the same language as them... anyone saying that Jessica is just a manipulative bitch is, in my opinion, jumping to conclusions. I would have agreed, if it wasn't for the fact that she has a recorded phone call. That alone shifted my view of "having the best intentions, but not the most competent" to "malicious". it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people. it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. I don't know from where you are, but I can tell you that recording phone calls is not legal everywhere and it is also regarded as a very bad practice at least where I live.
I was curious about this myself so I did a bit of googling. Apparently in the Netherlands what Jessica did would most likely deemed illegal unless she has proof that the parties involved were planning to reveal something they aren't allowed to reveal under contract, company secrets.
But this is very bad practice from the person in charge IMO. It shows she is untrustworthy.
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On October 23 2012 07:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:19 Subversive wrote:On October 23 2012 07:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:17 Subversive wrote:On October 23 2012 07:14 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:12 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:04 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:
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Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. Saving e-mails, yes. Recording I believe you need to have the other person's consent. I know of a case where it was thrown out of court because it wasn't. Korean law is all that matters here, so any anecdotal evidence to the contrary from another country is irrelevant. I am not aware of Korean law on the matter, but am almost positive that Jessica is not doing anything illegal here. besides, we aren't talking about court cases, but a private dispute between two private individuals. User was warned for this post Let me recap it, so I get it right: 1. You say only korean law is relevant. 2. You say you don't know anything about it. 3. You say you are sure she did nothing wrong. --- leaves me puzzled. I would like to live in your world for a day, just for the experience. only Korean law is relevant, because we are discussing Korean law. I am not entirely aware of the specific laws in this case, but am pretty sure, since no one from the area is calling for her to be arrested or trying to pursue this legally, that she is not doing anything illegal. pretty simple, dude... You have no idea about Korean law. And you base your assumption on the fact that no one (that you have heard of in this article) is trying to take legal action. Just retract your statement or amend it to "I am not really sure, but I would be surprised if this were illegal in Korea - it certainly isn't here". Because while you dismiss the german poster for giving his imput about his country you have no better knowledge yourself. I dismissed his anecdotal evidence concerning a court case in Germany as relevant to a legal fact in Korea. and I was right.... so.... I don't know what you're talking about. You dismissed it with no better information. That's why everyone called you on it. my information was better, dude, because I was right. and it took 5 seconds for me to find the source of the information. everyone who "called me out" was wrong...
Good thing you make statements and research them after the fact.
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Well... I'd love to see MMA in SKT1 :D
And Jessica... It looks like she was the cancer in the team. Wonder if Boxer would be able to play in Code S if it wasn't for Jessica constantly interfering his practice. Hope he'll do great things with SKT though.
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On October 23 2012 07:14 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:12 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:04 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:51 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:40 TrickyGilligan wrote:
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There have been literally hundreds of pages of drama surrounding this. We're way past the point of "jumping to conclusions based on nothing."
This is TL though, so I guess we need 3 different peer-reviewed sources before we can make a decision about anything. jumping to conclusions based on the biased statement of one side is pretty much jumping to conclusions based on nothing. especially when this thread has become, basically, a discussion about Boxer and Jessica's love-life between people who have almost all: 1) never met either of them, and 2) don't even speak the same language as them... anyone saying that Jessica is just a manipulative bitch is, in my opinion, jumping to conclusions. I would have agreed, if it wasn't for the fact that she has a recorded phone call. That alone shifted my view of "having the best intentions, but not the most competent" to "malicious". it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people. it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. Saving e-mails, yes. Recording I believe you need to have the other person's consent. I know of a case where it was thrown out of court because it wasn't. Korean law is all that matters here, so any anecdotal evidence to the contrary from another country is irrelevant. I am not aware of Korean law on the matter, but am almost positive that Jessica is not doing anything illegal here. besides, we aren't talking about court cases, but a private dispute between two private individuals. User was warned for this post Let me recap it, so I get it right: 1. You say only korean law is relevant. 2. You say you don't know anything about it. 3. You say you are sure she did nothing wrong. --- leaves me puzzled. I would like to live in your world for a day, just for the experience. only Korean law is relevant, because we are discussing Korean law. I am not entirely aware of the specific laws in this case, but am pretty sure, since no one from the area is calling for her to be arrested or trying to pursue this legally, that she is not doing anything illegal. pretty simple, dude...
And you are sure no one is pursuing this legally? haha You complain about people saying things without proof; do you realize how much of a hypocrite you are being right now? You don't even know the law in Korea(i'm not claiming to either). At least we are basing what we know on something. You say "almost positive" to "pretty sure" cause she hasn't been arrested yet. That has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read in this thread. Quit flaming.
Pretty simple, dude.
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On October 23 2012 07:14 Subversive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:11 enzym wrote:
MMA doesn't come off looking good after this. We already saw Jessica's personality - that she's rather confrontational and doesn't give in easily, and also makes things bigger than they need to be. None of these things are necessarily bad, except for the last one, and the general trickiness such personality brings to the management of public relations.
But what we didn't know before is that MMA is effectively the same... no trust in his managers, unable bring up and resolve issues through open discussion, taking everything personally and affecting the people around him negatively, and also, even now, dishing out accusations and blaming others, instead of explaining what exactly was actually going on and taking some responsibility. Going so far as to throw BoxeR under the bus? Not cool... not cool.
All of this makes me very sad. Jessica's naivity when it comes to the management of the team, the incompatibilities her personality brings, the irresponsibility of everyone involved (except for BoxeR).
How could anyone in good faith express interest in working with either of such individuals? Hey I don't want to start arguments when neither of us know for sure, but how is Boxer the angel in all of this? It's the team he started, and his girlfriend managed and a bunch of kids who may or may not be clueless or disruptive. How is he magically innocent just because he's Boxer?
As far as I can tell, BoxeR was more in the position of a player and investor, instead of being a manager himself. The guy just wants to entertain people with his game, which he unfortunately couldn't do because of health reasons, requiring he rests. Didn't the team get made so that he had people around to practice with in the first place? Even MMA mentioned that BoxeR just wanted to focus on the game and not have to be concerned with other matters. So I really don't see how any significant amount of blame could land on the guy, because yes, I can empathize with him, because he is the BoxeR.
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Ok I sent my friend (Korean-Canadian) Cella's tweets and she summarized them as follows:
cella's sayin how he knows the importance of team play
but yohawn and some girl (nuna) told him tht he made a bad move
so he's just gonna keep his mouth quiet and get all the rants
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On October 23 2012 07:23 BRaegO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:14 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:12 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:04 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:51 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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jumping to conclusions based on the biased statement of one side is pretty much jumping to conclusions based on nothing. especially when this thread has become, basically, a discussion about Boxer and Jessica's love-life between people who have almost all: 1) never met either of them, and 2) don't even speak the same language as them...
anyone saying that Jessica is just a manipulative bitch is, in my opinion, jumping to conclusions. I would have agreed, if it wasn't for the fact that she has a recorded phone call. That alone shifted my view of "having the best intentions, but not the most competent" to "malicious". it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people. it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. Saving e-mails, yes. Recording I believe you need to have the other person's consent. I know of a case where it was thrown out of court because it wasn't. Korean law is all that matters here, so any anecdotal evidence to the contrary from another country is irrelevant. I am not aware of Korean law on the matter, but am almost positive that Jessica is not doing anything illegal here. besides, we aren't talking about court cases, but a private dispute between two private individuals. User was warned for this post Let me recap it, so I get it right: 1. You say only korean law is relevant. 2. You say you don't know anything about it. 3. You say you are sure she did nothing wrong. --- leaves me puzzled. I would like to live in your world for a day, just for the experience. only Korean law is relevant, because we are discussing Korean law. I am not entirely aware of the specific laws in this case, but am pretty sure, since no one from the area is calling for her to be arrested or trying to pursue this legally, that she is not doing anything illegal. pretty simple, dude... And you are sure no one is pursuing this legally? haha You complain about people saying things without proof; do you realize how much of a hypocrite you are being right now? You don't even know the law in Korea(i'm not claiming to either). At least we are basing what we know on something. You say "almost positive" to "pretty sure" cause she hasn't been arrested yet. That has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read in this thread. Quit flaming. Pretty simple, dude.
I literally just posted the relevant information about the law... and I didn't flame you once, whereas you just called me idiotic...
once again:
South Korean courts routinely accept recordings, or transcripts of recordings, as admissible evidence in both civil and criminal proceedings. The Supreme Court ruled in October 2002 that it is not illegal for a party to a phone call to record the phone conversation secretly without the other party's knowledge, although the recording of a phone conversation by a third party without the consent of both parties to the phone call is illegal.
https://www.privacyinternational.org/reports/south-korea/ii-surveillance-policy
(also, considering the fact that all of the parties involved have previously stated that they don't mind if the recorded call comes out, it is not a jump to think that said call was not illegally recorded....)
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On October 23 2012 07:24 geokilla wrote:
Ok I sent my friend (Korean-Canadian) Cella's tweets and she summarized them as follows:
cella's sayin how he knows the importance of team play
but yohawn and some girl (nuna) told him tht he made a bad move
so he's just gonna keep his mouth quiet and get all the rants
Nuna is Jessica
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Wow, this community changes its mind quickly.
Jessica writes her version, "oh wow MMA was evil."
MMA writes his version, "oh wow Jessica was evil"
Personally, I believe both versions. There was problems with "J," which made a bad mood in the house, which never was lifted. Just got worse and worse over time, until they eventually had to disband. Hope that this doesn't ruin any careers.
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On October 23 2012 07:21 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:05 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:51 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:40 TrickyGilligan wrote:On October 23 2012 06:35 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:32 BRaegO wrote:
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And "someone like you would do" isn't categorizing? Apparently you aren't one of the kids that are learning something new everyday.(psst categorizing... do you see it.. one of those kids)... look: I said that there were a lot of people saying: "MMA said different, so that proves Jessica is a bitch." than you come out, right after, and say, basically: "MMA says different, so that proves Jessica is a manipulative bitch." so I lol'd at the irony and pointed it out, and then you got mad. well, I'm gonna give you a reason to be really mad, because I'm about to really categorize you: people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day. There have been literally hundreds of pages of drama surrounding this. We're way past the point of "jumping to conclusions based on nothing." This is TL though, so I guess we need 3 different peer-reviewed sources before we can make a decision about anything. jumping to conclusions based on the biased statement of one side is pretty much jumping to conclusions based on nothing. especially when this thread has become, basically, a discussion about Boxer and Jessica's love-life between people who have almost all: 1) never met either of them, and 2) don't even speak the same language as them... anyone saying that Jessica is just a manipulative bitch is, in my opinion, jumping to conclusions. I would have agreed, if it wasn't for the fact that she has a recorded phone call. That alone shifted my view of "having the best intentions, but not the most competent" to "malicious". it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people. it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. I don't know from where you are, but I can tell you that recording phone calls is not legal everywhere and it is also regarded as a very bad practice at least where I live. I was curious about this myself so I did a bit of googling. Apparently in the Netherlands what Jessica did would most likely deemed illegal unless she has proof that the parties involved were planning to reveal something they aren't allowed to reveal under contract, company secrets. But this is very bad practice from the person in charge IMO. It shows she is untrustworthy.
Well, could be a different law anywhere in the world, but it is pretty harsh here.
+ Show Spoiler [german] +Das Aufzeichnen von Telefongesprächen ist allgemein laut Strafgesetzbuch - Besonderer Teil (§§ 80 - 358) 15. Abschnitt - Verletzung des persönlichen Lebens- und Geheimbereichs (§§ 201 - 210) in Deutschland verboten und wird mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu 5 Jahren geahndet.
Das Aufzeichnen von Telefongesprächen ist in Deutschland nur unter ganz besonderen Bedingungen gestattet. Allgemein bedarf es der ausdrücklichen Zustimmung aller Gesprächsteilnehmer.
+ Show Spoiler [google translation] +The recording of telephone conversations is generally the Penal Code - Special Section (§ § 80-358) 15 Section - breach of personal life and secret area (§ § 201-210) banned in Germany and to imprisonment for up to 5 years imprisonment.
The recording of telephone conversations in Germany is permitted only under very special conditions. Generally require the express consent of all parties to the call.
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On October 23 2012 07:24 geokilla wrote:
Ok I sent my friend (Korean-Canadian) Cella's tweets and she summarized them as follows:
cella's sayin how he knows the importance of team play
but yohawn and some girl (nuna) told him tht he made a bad move
so he's just gonna keep his mouth quiet and get all the rants
That would be Boxer and Jessica in this case.
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On October 23 2012 07:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:24 geokilla wrote:
Ok I sent my friend (Korean-Canadian) Cella's tweets and she summarized them as follows:
cella's sayin how he knows the importance of team play
but yohawn and some girl (nuna) told him tht he made a bad move
so he's just gonna keep his mouth quiet and get all the rants Nuna is Jessica
Question, is MMA going to join Axiom now? I'm hoping he does...
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On October 23 2012 07:23 enzym wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:14 Subversive wrote:On October 23 2012 07:11 enzym wrote:
MMA doesn't come off looking good after this. We already saw Jessica's personality - that she's rather confrontational and doesn't give in easily, and also makes things bigger than they need to be. None of these things are necessarily bad, except for the last one, and the general trickiness such personality brings to the management of public relations.
But what we didn't know before is that MMA is effectively the same... no trust in his managers, unable bring up and resolve issues through open discussion, taking everything personally and affecting the people around him negatively, and also, even now, dishing out accusations and blaming others, instead of explaining what exactly was actually going on and taking some responsibility. Going so far as to throw BoxeR under the bus? Not cool... not cool.
All of this makes me very sad. Jessica's naivity when it comes to the management of the team, the incompatibilities her personality brings, the irresponsibility of everyone involved (except for BoxeR).
How could anyone in good faith express interest in working with either of such individuals? Hey I don't want to start arguments when neither of us know for sure, but how is Boxer the angel in all of this? It's the team he started, and his girlfriend managed and a bunch of kids who may or may not be clueless or disruptive. How is he magically innocent just because he's Boxer? As far as I can tell, BoxeR was more in the position of a player and investor, instead of being a manager himself. The guy just wants to entertain people with his game, which he unfortunately couldn't do because of health reasons, requiring he rests. Didn't the team get made so that he had people around to practice with in the first place? Even MMA mentioned that BoxeR just wanted to focus on the game and not have to be concerned with other matters. So I really don't see how any significant amount of blame could land on the guy, because yes, I can empathize with him, because he is the BoxeR.
You have to blame Boxer to some degree. He was the leader, he let it all happen. He let his "name" be used to attack players. He let his girlfriend take over.
He may be a SC legend, but he's far from faultless in this.
+ Show Spoiler +
I think the dude was "whipped".
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@opisska: they actually talked about how none of this made any sense on state of the game. Totally with you on this one.
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I blame Razer. Razer killing SlayerS, killing eSports :<... trollolol
This shit-slinging contest is getting pretty ridic :[
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On October 23 2012 07:24 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:23 BRaegO wrote:On October 23 2012 07:14 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:12 grs wrote:On October 23 2012 07:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:04 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:02 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 07:00 achan1058 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:59 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 23 2012 06:53 achan1058 wrote:
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I would have agreed, if it wasn't for the fact that she has a recorded phone call. That alone shifted my view of "having the best intentions, but not the most competent" to "malicious". it's pretty common to record telephone calls if you are worried that the content of the call might be relevant later in some controversy. I'm not saying that Jessica did nothing wrong, but just her recording a call is not enough to suddenly label her as maliciously trying to hurt people. it is assumptions like this that seem to have caused the whole controversy in the first place... Actually, I don't think she can do that. It's definitely not common. well, it is perfectly legal. and it is very, very common in the world of business to save emails, record phone-calls, etc. if you feel that a controversy may arise which concerns the content of those communications. Saving e-mails, yes. Recording I believe you need to have the other person's consent. I know of a case where it was thrown out of court because it wasn't. Korean law is all that matters here, so any anecdotal evidence to the contrary from another country is irrelevant. I am not aware of Korean law on the matter, but am almost positive that Jessica is not doing anything illegal here. besides, we aren't talking about court cases, but a private dispute between two private individuals. User was warned for this post Let me recap it, so I get it right: 1. You say only korean law is relevant. 2. You say you don't know anything about it. 3. You say you are sure she did nothing wrong. --- leaves me puzzled. I would like to live in your world for a day, just for the experience. only Korean law is relevant, because we are discussing Korean law. I am not entirely aware of the specific laws in this case, but am pretty sure, since no one from the area is calling for her to be arrested or trying to pursue this legally, that she is not doing anything illegal. pretty simple, dude... And you are sure no one is pursuing this legally? haha You complain about people saying things without proof; do you realize how much of a hypocrite you are being right now? You don't even know the law in Korea(i'm not claiming to either). At least we are basing what we know on something. You say "almost positive" to "pretty sure" cause she hasn't been arrested yet. That has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read in this thread. Quit flaming. Pretty simple, dude. I literally just posted the relevant information about the law... and I didn't flame you once, whereas you just called me idiotic...
"people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day" That's not flaming? haha Hopefully you've learned that's categorizing too, by now.
You posted what you thought was right before actually knowing and posting the relevant info. Do you see my point? You are stating shit before even knowing what you are talking about.
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