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On October 20 2012 05:56 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 05:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:49 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:46 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:45 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:41 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:39 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:29 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:23 revel8 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:18 Wuster wrote:
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I agree with you; bringing his up before Slayers disbanded wouldn't have done anything. If anything people would have called her a whiner and tell her to deal with it / your team shoudln't need others to practice. Which, basically half the 'haters' threw out in the 'Slayers to disband' thread.
Slayers disbanding put the weight and gravity behind this issue that just complaining while your team's results tanked wouldn't have.
Also if you publicly call out everyone on the other teams by revealing this ostracism and boycott then it is hardly likely to make them be more friendly towards you. It is more likely to harden their attitude towards you. BoSs believes that it helps. I agree with him. Read his blog. Then he is simply wrong. Publicly calling out a person on wrongdoings will only make that person like you less. The only thing you might achieve is more community awareness and control on the ESF and organizations. But to think that you do not get a big hit in your relations with other teams is ridiculous logic. They don't have to like you to play nice with you. I trust a guy in Finance more than a random person on the net. You trust a person in finance more than a random person on the net? I dare say financially inclined jobs have the least inclined persons to be fair and honest with you. I especially dare to say so after the financial crisises lately. I rather trust a guy with malice than a guy with incompetence. BoSs might possibly be the former, but the issues that lead up to Slayers disbanding is definitely with the latter. When and where did Jessica and Boxer show incompetence? Also, I wonder why you would trust a guy with malice more than a guy with incompetence. Isn't the one with malice more inclined to best you when lying? If a malicious guy is on your side, you can rely on him, for that little while...... Also, eSF wasn't the only reason why SlayerS disbanded. There are lots of preventable internal issues as well. If, indeed. How to know for sure though? Still doesn't show that Jessica or Boxer have been incompetent throughout Slayer's timeline.
If the Mr. J issue does not scream incompetence, I don't know what does.
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On October 20 2012 04:32 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 04:01 TeeTS wrote:Since most people here still don't seem to understand what's going on, I will explain what's going on and what may happen: First: The Practice embargoThe point that causes all the drama. First of all, it was totally wrong by the teams to put this onto Slayers. The big point though is, that the eSF teams recognized it shortly (a period of 17days is the only exact number we have and there is NO evidence brought up until now, that it lasted longer) and ended it after 17 days without any external pressure!!!, since noone knew about it. The interesting part regarding the issue we have now is, that Jessica's description of the embargo was nowhere even close to the reality, but extremely overdramatic and exaggerated, claiming that it went on for about 10months, while evidence that this wasn't the case is quickly found: Conclusion: It's very clear what she intended to do with this. She wanted to cause major damage to eSF and its teams (since eSF is formed directly out of the participating teams, all of them: ST, IM, Prime, MVP, NSHS, FXO and TSL will take major damage from this drama) with the possibility to destroy them. The reason why she did this is still unclear since there are several possibilities: It may just've been out of revenge, it may even been connected to Boxers Promotion as a head coach of a Kespa team. We will likely never know what her reasons were. But what she did remains and I can't imagine that she didn't do this on purpose. Second: consequencesTo get a first taste of the consequences of this issue we can simply look at this: On October 20 2012 02:57 SeeKeR wrote:
Some comments by Korean netizens: (Sources are from fomos and TIG)
"wtf? So only coach Won is going to step down and issue an apology? What about the other ESF staff members? Where's their apology? What about the players who agreed with this whole SlayerS restriction? Where's their apology?"
"So coach Won steps down and another asshole from ESF who also agreed with the SlayerS restriction gets to take his spot. Yeah, everything's been fixed."
"Just get rid of ESF already. You guys are not needed."
"You say you guys are working together for the future of eSports. You think singling out a team and putting a restriction on them, bullying them, and forcing players not to practice with that team is going to help the future of eSports? You guys are all full of shit and none of you deserve to be working for eSports."
"You call this an apology? An elementary student could have written this crap."
"I love how they are issuing an apology after everything went to hell. Good job guys. You guys are real mature. Way to step it up."
"What the hell. Yeah, okay. So he steps down from his ESF position but he still remains as a coach for StarTale. You guys haven't fixed anything."
"Don't even bother spewing up bull crap about an apology. All of you who were in involved with this bullying, gtfo."
Holy crap... Korean netizens Oo;; The second taste may follow tomorrow/tonight (depends on where you live  ) with the GSL finals coming up. It will be a first indicator of how big the damage taken is. You all should think about how things are connected in the korean scene: eSF basically stands directly for its teams: ST, IM, Prime, MVP, NSHS, FXO and TSL. When eSF goes down those teams will definately go down too and GOM together with GSL will follow. Before you call me a conspirator now, I want to remind you to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362650This was only prevented due to the power the teams had together as eSF. Things that I could imagine coming up, if eSF falls are: "Kespa pulling back every player from GSL", "no eSF players allowed in next OSL" basically all the teams mentioned may go down if the support from the local (korean) scene breaks away. And if you look at the quote from Seeker, this is very likely to happen if things don't calm down quickly there. -_- It's indeed a very sad day for SC2  the 17 days lie was already debunked
TeeTs is good at reading.
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I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry.
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On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry.
Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo.
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On October 20 2012 05:59 achan1058 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 05:56 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:53 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:49 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:46 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:45 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:41 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:39 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 05:29 achan1058 wrote:On October 20 2012 05:23 revel8 wrote:
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Also if you publicly call out everyone on the other teams by revealing this ostracism and boycott then it is hardly likely to make them be more friendly towards you. It is more likely to harden their attitude towards you. BoSs believes that it helps. I agree with him. Read his blog. Then he is simply wrong. Publicly calling out a person on wrongdoings will only make that person like you less. The only thing you might achieve is more community awareness and control on the ESF and organizations. But to think that you do not get a big hit in your relations with other teams is ridiculous logic. They don't have to like you to play nice with you. I trust a guy in Finance more than a random person on the net. You trust a person in finance more than a random person on the net? I dare say financially inclined jobs have the least inclined persons to be fair and honest with you. I especially dare to say so after the financial crisises lately. I rather trust a guy with malice than a guy with incompetence. BoSs might possibly be the former, but the issues that lead up to Slayers disbanding is definitely with the latter. When and where did Jessica and Boxer show incompetence? Also, I wonder why you would trust a guy with malice more than a guy with incompetence. Isn't the one with malice more inclined to best you when lying? If a malicious guy is on your side, you can rely on him, for that little while...... Also, eSF wasn't the only reason why SlayerS disbanded. There are lots of preventable internal issues as well. If, indeed. How to know for sure though? Still doesn't show that Jessica or Boxer have been incompetent throughout Slayer's timeline. If the Mr. J issue does not scream incompetence, I don't know what does.
Again, we don't know if that's due to incompetence or something else. Actually I'd rather think that's a prime example of how dangerous maliciously inclined people are.
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This Jessica sounds like a dangerous person to mess with. She knows how to protect herself from slander. Looks like she won 1 of her fight.
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On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo.
Wouldn't it be actually illegal to put on those bans against teams outside of your association but in the same competition? Sounds quite like monopoly and cartel forming to push out competition.
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On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo.
10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree.
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On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo.
Even so, it builds a bad relationship and forces one team to be the red headed step child to all the others. In public everything can look hunky dory, but behind the scenes it's still a terrible thing for one team to be more or less outcast for practice with others.
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On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree.
I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was.
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On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo.
Brush up on your reading comprehension. Did I say it was the sole reason ? No.
It's impossible to quantify just how much of an impact this had on the team, so I find the fact that you are attempting to... to be fully retarded.
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On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was.
Care to explain what incompetence?
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On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence?
they managed to win two gstls and get a player to win two championships
how incompetent is that?
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On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence?
Let's see, failure to bring this to light early when something could be done, failure to monitor your own employee that plays a major role in the growth of your team, poor management of players, poor management of situations... shall I go on?
On October 20 2012 06:16 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence? they managed to win two gstls and get a player to win two championships how incompetent is that?
Doesn't that make the whole "PraCtiCe EmBaRgO KiLLeD SlayerS!!!111!" point is kind of null and void, then...?
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On October 20 2012 06:17 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence? Let's see, failure to bring this to light early when something could be done, failure to monitor your own employee that plays a major role in the growth of your team, poor management of players, poor management of situations... shall I go on? Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:16 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence? they managed to win two gstls and get a player to win two championships how incompetent is that? Doesn't that make the whole "PraCtiCe EmBaRgO KiLLeD SlayerS!!!111!" point is kind of null and void, then...?
the results where made last year.. the practice embargo started sometime before january this year
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On October 20 2012 06:16 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence? they managed to win two gstls and get a player to win two championships how incompetent is that?
Indeed :D.
Let's see, failure to bring this to light early when something could be done, failure to monitor your own employee that plays a major role in the growth of your team, poor management of players, poor management of situations... shall I go on?
Point one: Already explained earlier in this thread and the 'Slayers to disband', there's loads of reasons why it would've been bad for Slayers to bring it to light earlier. Besides, first going the road through private channels is more competent than bringing it to light early.
Point two: He's been an employee for a while, and may very well have had excellent qualifications. We don't have enough information on this subject to say how and when he ruined the team. Like I've said earlier on this subject, it only shows how dangerous maliciously inclined people are.
Point three: Poor management of players? I'd say the opposite, they have done alot for their players. It's not their fault they're spoiled and immature brats.
Point four: Poor management of situations? When? I say this situation quite clearly shows they're competent but a competent person cannot fight when the entire conglomeration is fighting against you.
Please do continue.
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who is this manager J which Jessica mentions, because this manager was the root of all these problems.
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On October 20 2012 06:27 sighsigh wrote:
who is this manager J which Jessica mentions, because this manager was the root of all these problems.
Good question indeed. I'm betting they can´t name him due to legal reasons.
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On October 20 2012 06:01 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 04:32 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 04:01 TeeTS wrote:Since most people here still don't seem to understand what's going on, I will explain what's going on and what may happen: First: The Practice embargoThe point that causes all the drama. First of all, it was totally wrong by the teams to put this onto Slayers. The big point though is, that the eSF teams recognized it shortly (a period of 17days is the only exact number we have and there is NO evidence brought up until now, that it lasted longer) and ended it after 17 days without any external pressure!!!, since noone knew about it. The interesting part regarding the issue we have now is, that Jessica's description of the embargo was nowhere even close to the reality, but extremely overdramatic and exaggerated, claiming that it went on for about 10months, while evidence that this wasn't the case is quickly found: Conclusion: It's very clear what she intended to do with this. She wanted to cause major damage to eSF and its teams (since eSF is formed directly out of the participating teams, all of them: ST, IM, Prime, MVP, NSHS, FXO and TSL will take major damage from this drama) with the possibility to destroy them. The reason why she did this is still unclear since there are several possibilities: It may just've been out of revenge, it may even been connected to Boxers Promotion as a head coach of a Kespa team. We will likely never know what her reasons were. But what she did remains and I can't imagine that she didn't do this on purpose. Second: consequencesTo get a first taste of the consequences of this issue we can simply look at this: On October 20 2012 02:57 SeeKeR wrote:
Some comments by Korean netizens: (Sources are from fomos and TIG)
"wtf? So only coach Won is going to step down and issue an apology? What about the other ESF staff members? Where's their apology? What about the players who agreed with this whole SlayerS restriction? Where's their apology?"
"So coach Won steps down and another asshole from ESF who also agreed with the SlayerS restriction gets to take his spot. Yeah, everything's been fixed."
"Just get rid of ESF already. You guys are not needed."
"You say you guys are working together for the future of eSports. You think singling out a team and putting a restriction on them, bullying them, and forcing players not to practice with that team is going to help the future of eSports? You guys are all full of shit and none of you deserve to be working for eSports."
"You call this an apology? An elementary student could have written this crap."
"I love how they are issuing an apology after everything went to hell. Good job guys. You guys are real mature. Way to step it up."
"What the hell. Yeah, okay. So he steps down from his ESF position but he still remains as a coach for StarTale. You guys haven't fixed anything."
"Don't even bother spewing up bull crap about an apology. All of you who were in involved with this bullying, gtfo."
Holy crap... Korean netizens Oo;; The second taste may follow tomorrow/tonight (depends on where you live ) with the GSL finals coming up. It will be a first indicator of how big the damage taken is. You all should think about how things are connected in the korean scene: eSF basically stands directly for its teams: ST, IM, Prime, MVP, NSHS, FXO and TSL. When eSF goes down those teams will definately go down too and GOM together with GSL will follow. Before you call me a conspirator now, I want to remind you to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362650This was only prevented due to the power the teams had together as eSF. Things that I could imagine coming up, if eSF falls are: "Kespa pulling back every player from GSL", "no eSF players allowed in next OSL" basically all the teams mentioned may go down if the support from the local (korean) scene breaks away. And if you look at the quote from Seeker, this is very likely to happen if things don't calm down quickly there. -_- It's indeed a very sad day for SC2 the 17 days lie was already debunked TeeTs is good at reading.
MC's comments prove nothing on the issue. The problem is, that there was definately no forced general practice embargo over such an amount of time (10 months) - Why should Slayers players thank people for practicing with them if it wasn't true? And a ruling, that is not forced, has basically no meaning.
We can't say exactly how long it was and when it was. But it is impossible to be as dramatic as Jessica claimed it to be in the first place. And that was basically all this part of my post was about.
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On October 20 2012 06:24 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:16 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:14 Shival wrote:On October 20 2012 06:13 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:10 farnham wrote:On October 20 2012 06:03 Dosey wrote:On October 20 2012 06:01 imMUTAble787 wrote:
I see a large number of posts commending the guy for admitting his mistakes and stepping down.
Fuck that.
This guy played a major role in effectively sinking BOXERS TEAM. He needs to be blacklisted from the entire industry. Lack of practice partners wouldn't play a major role in the sinking of a team. Did it help? No, definitely not. But the poor management of the team is what caused the ultimate demise, not some stupid practice embargo. 10 month of isolation from the metagame does not hurt the team morale and skills? suree. I said that it wasn't helpful. My point was that it wasn't the major catalyst in SlayerS' ultimate demise. Incompetence was. Care to explain what incompetence? they managed to win two gstls and get a player to win two championships how incompetent is that? Indeed :D. Show nested quote +Let's see, failure to bring this to light early when something could be done, failure to monitor your own employee that plays a major role in the growth of your team, poor management of players, poor management of situations... shall I go on? Point one: Already explained earlier in this thread and the 'Slayers to disband', there's loads of reasons why it would've been bad for Slayers to bring it to light earlier. Besides, first going the road through private channels is more competent than bringing it to light early. Point two: He's been an employee for a while, and may very well have had excellent qualifications. We don't have enough information on this subject to say how and when he ruined the team. Like I've said earlier on this subject, it only shows how dangerous maliciously inclined people are. Point three: Poor management of players? I'd say the opposite, they have done alot for their players. It's not their fault they're spoiled and immature brats. Point four: Poor management of situations? When? I say this situation quite clearly shows they're competent but a competent person cannot fight when the entire conglomeration is fighting against you. Please do continue.
There are also loads of reasons why to bring it to light earlier. eSF had no problems publicly outing KeSPA when they pulled out of GSL and look at the quick results that provided.
Regardless of how long someone has been an employee, you don't stop monitoring them, especially when they aren't providing very good results.
They handled plenty of players very poorly. Tons of pro gamers are fucking divas and a half, learning to deal with those types of personalities is part of the business. They clearly did not learn to deal with those personalities and instead just shunned/punished them while trying to ruin their image or just not bolster it. This is very, very poor player management.
Attempting to bring down an organization after everything is all said and done is a sign of competence? What? It seems more to me like this is a revenge plot than some noble crusade to oust poor practices. If this was some noble crusade, then this would have been made public much earlier. Jessica has shown time and again that she is very poor at handling situations in a... civil manner. Hell, look at her recent twitter war with MC. She's on a sinking ship and suddenly grew about 100 arms to grab everyone around her and bring them down as well.
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