EPTStephano suspended by Evil Geniuses - Page 62
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Odoakar
Croatia1838 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:47 Rasputincz wrote: it was just joke on /b/ or reddit basis. I think this was huge overextention by EG who takes it too seriously. I realize that esports scene around SC2 is getting serious and such but its still just game played by young almost adults (in most of the cases) who just wanna have fun sometimes. Just huge hype around nothing. Same could be said about any actual sport, I don't understand the demographic argument, people do realize that it's not a mark of maturity to defend stephano and rage at EG right? It's with in EG's rights as a private company to do what they want with in the contractual means, just as Stephano is free to choose which ever team he wants to go to in a competitive market, this isn't you talking with Stephano in a private environment and you giving your opinion on whether or not you would be personally offended by a joke. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:33 Caihead wrote: Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it. The sc2 community is made of XXXXX persons having their own opinions and values, there is no intellectual orthodoxy as far as I know. I, for example, couldn't care less about sc2 being taken "seriously" lol. | ||
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Pantythief
Denmark657 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:52 Caihead wrote: Same could be said about any actual sport, I don't understand the demographic argument, people do realize that it's not a mark of maturity to defend stephano and rage at EG right? It's with in EG's rights as a private company to do what they want with in the contractual means, just as Stephano is free to choose which ever team he wants to go to in a competitive market, this isn't you talking with Stephano in a private environment and you giving your opinion on whether or not you would be personally offended by a joke. starcraft is not an actual sport. also, in esports we should be able to laugh at this, not pretend it's a big deal. honestly thought people were better than this, lol. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:55 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: The sc2 community is made of XXXXX persons having their own opinions and values, there is no intellectual orthodoxy as far as I know. I, for example, couldn't care less about sc2 being taken "seriously" lol. The sponsors do, though. The moment which SC had sponsors, it was already mainstream. This happened 10 years ago. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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Holloworb
Norway345 Posts
Wherever big business is involved you'll see that a certain social conduct is expected. I dont think Stephano is a bad person for making a bad joke. But lets say this was something a big sportstar said, you might very well have had the front page of your national newspaper read "X sportstar admits to sexual abuse of underage teenager" the next morning. That may not be true, that may be twisting the words of that said star and that may be leaving some information out on purpose. Still, thats how publicity and the media works. Now Esports is smaller than that, but i'd say the sponsors still has the same thought process. Thats not the kind of attention they want. | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
I really don't want people to get fucked by people messaging sponsors when it is completely unnecessary. I have to wonder, would it be better if we messaged sponsors every time someone said something immature or something bad happened, or if it would be better to not bother them with utter nonsense such as this. Do sponsors want to join a community where everyone runs around acting like a 14 year old brat? NOPE. Do sponsors want to join a community where every time something remotely bad happens they're getting messaged? ALSO NOPE. So what's the solution? I dunno, but it isn't to message sponsors every time an immature 20 year old acts like an immature 20 year old!! K NEED TO COOL DOWN NOW. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:56 Pantythief wrote: starcraft is not an actual sport. also, in esports we should be able to laugh at this, not pretend it's a big deal. honestly thought people were better than this, lol. Well. All that great gaming gear and technology that backs this whole operation are run by some of the largest professional conglomerates. Isn't a professional gamer a professional? I don't see any argument that questions the legitimacy of EG's contract with Stephano, or that this decision penalizes or breaches workers rights / disadvantages him unfairly. So as far as I'm concerned it's completely justified, I don't have to like something to know that it is lawful and professional. | ||
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:56 Pantythief wrote: starcraft is not an actual sport. also, in esports we should be able to laugh at this, not pretend it's a big deal. honestly thought people were better than this, lol. Stephano can, according to law, be convicted as a sexual offender. This is a big deal everywhere, or do you live somewhere were it is commonplace? | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:58 CoR wrote: well even if it is a joke, 14 is legal isnt it ? i mean ... you cant be judged by doing everything with 14 yo old girls ? at least in germany is it really illegal in other countries ? here the partens are pissed but nothing they could do, after 14 you can f**k whoever you want Apparently it's a pretty big deal in America, land of the free. Personally over here leagal age is 16, but yeah 14 is definitely legal in some places and not all that terrible that people make it out to be. | ||
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:59 Shebuha wrote: I'm getting really annoyed by the SCII community, and I really don't want to be. A really shitty joke Only if you are naive. | ||
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
Must be deserved but sad news anyway.. | ||
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hyuu
163 Posts
If we follow the same logic they need to be punish... | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
He should've at least checked if Bling was streaming -______- | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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