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Hren
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
October 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#1201
Only in America.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#1202
ahh thats a shame.

to be honest i assumed it was a joke all along during blings stream, and im not gonna lie i thought it was hilarious watching blings face.

i think the decision from EG to send him to korea for training whilst he serves his punishment was clever and effective aswell.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 08:32:03
October 13 2012 08:31 GMT
#1203
On October 13 2012 17:25 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:22 Defacer wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:19 Benjamin99 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:14 stickyhands wrote:
EG got the balls to do what Millenium never did


Millenium would never do that because they would laugh at anyone who got a problem with it and they don't give a shit about the latest drama on Reddit



Also, Millenium is a small-time team that pays players peanuts and has nothing to lose or gain by caring about public opinion.

It's easy to pretend you don't care what other people think when no one gives a shit what you do or think.


You know nothing about Millenium. Its not a small time team they got the biggest esport site in Frence and got more money then most teams in the scene. They just wouldn't care about the latest drama like any intelligent person should unless of course you a woman that loves soap opera


Biggest esport site in France? Like I said, small-time. No one cares what a French team does.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
October 13 2012 08:32 GMT
#1204
On October 13 2012 17:31 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:25 Benjamin99 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:22 Defacer wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:19 Benjamin99 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:14 stickyhands wrote:
EG got the balls to do what Millenium never did


Millenium would never do that because they would laugh at anyone who got a problem with it and they don't give a shit about the latest drama on Reddit



Also, Millenium is a small-time team that pays players peanuts and has nothing to lose or gain by caring about public opinion.

It's easy to pretend you don't care what other people think when no one gives a shit what you do or think.


You know nothing about Millenium. Its not a small time team they got the biggest esport site in Frence and got more money then most teams in the scene. They just wouldn't care about the latest drama like any intelligent person should unless of course you a woman that loves soap opera


Biggest esport site in France? Like I said, small-time.


And they still bigger then most of the US team except EG
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 13 2012 08:33 GMT
#1205
On October 13 2012 17:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
A poor joke made on a video game chat, big deal in NA it seems.


Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
October 13 2012 08:34 GMT
#1206
On October 13 2012 17:14 CoR wrote:
i am not kind enough in english what he EXACTLY said

like "raping" so bad abusing
or just like "fu***ng" ?

even if its a joke 1st is unquestionable not acceptable, 2nd i dont see any problems around


Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:13 Benjamin99 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:08 achan1058 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:07 CT Legacy wrote:
looks like an obvious joke.. just goes to show you, you have NO freedom of speech when under contract. this is why the most outspoken players have trouble staying on teams. I'd much rather be real and be myself, bad tasted jokes and all and NOT have a team, then to cut out a part of who I am to be on a team with these limitations

I strongly suggest you not to go to any government buildings, nor airports.


I don't know what country you from but in Denmark you can actually say whatever you want wherever you want. Its called freedom of speech and yes I know some countries think its fine to break those basic human rights laws in form of scare tactics but thank god I'm not born in one of those police stats



WORD!


When he says abusing, you can clearly get he is joking about what happened or did not happen. Why? because you just don't use abuse in such a way in English especially in casual conversation.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
October 13 2012 08:35 GMT
#1207
On October 13 2012 17:33 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
A poor joke made on a video game chat, big deal in NA it seems.


Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it.


Serious? with this community haha? The serious people are laughing there ass off right now while they watch a prober sport where all the focus is on results on the sport itself instead of the latest drama

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
October 13 2012 08:35 GMT
#1208
Haha, he made a joke, while forgetting it might be streamed. That's all. Just some words type while forgetting a camera is rolling.

Prude Americans see 'abuse / 14 year old' and jump on their high horses right away, love it. There are so many better ways to work such a simple situation like this out.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 08:48:29
October 13 2012 08:36 GMT
#1209
On October 13 2012 17:25 Dundron2000 wrote:
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On October 13 2012 17:20 CoR wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:19 Dundron2000 wrote:
Thank you EG for continuing to introduce standards of professionalism into the non-korean scene


american standards of being prude ... oh yes thats what we needed ...


if you want to have good sponsors, some things will be changing. one of them is that immature kids cant act like immature kids.

The market is young adults. The players are young adults. Young adults make jokes. Please don't lose any sleep over this, because there is lots of money in the game already. There could always be more money, but you can't go up to Google with a sponsorship proposal and your only point of sale be "yeah we have this guy who plays a video game AND we don't let him say random things on battle.net!" and instantly grow the scene.
On October 13 2012 17:33 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
A poor joke made on a video game chat, big deal in NA it seems.


Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it.

The amount of discussions like these about SC2 personalities is beginning to parallel the media's fixation on the meaningless drama behind what the latest athlete said under his breath. You're being sold a controversy that doesn't really exist. He said this on battle.net, nobody would have noticed or cared, except SRS doesn't have hobbies besides personal vendettas against people in esports. Esports is a big place. There is professionalism in casting and in tournaments (where exposure happens), and that's good. There's freedom on the internet (where this entire scene came from), and that's also good. The latter shouldn't actually affect the former if you just filter all SRS emails to your spam folder.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
dofz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway98 Posts
October 13 2012 08:36 GMT
#1210
On October 13 2012 17:16 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:16 CoR wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:14 stickyhands wrote:
EG got the balls to do what Millenium never did


to ban someone 1 month for being funny ?


To ban someone 1 month for being offensive on a public forum?

If this was football, the charges would probably be worse =/



Newsflash, this isnt football.
"I'm good at everything" Brett Hull
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
October 13 2012 08:37 GMT
#1211
EG says he has been punished but paying him a ticket to Korea to train? That's an investment for the future whilst the previous plan would cost EG more money due to hotels + flights across europe, make stephano exhausted and weaken his long term skill.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
October 13 2012 08:39 GMT
#1212
On October 13 2012 17:33 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
A poor joke made on a video game chat, big deal in NA it seems.


Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it.



And that is a good thing? Answer the question to yourself, is that a good thing? That every shit you do private will be used against you just because you are in the public spotlight?

I dont want to be the sc2 scene like that. Just some people making a big deal out of nothing. We as a sc2 community shouldnt give a damn at all. We should be different and better.



Fucking bad joke that wasnt even funny and it was stupid not to check if bling is streaming but still : Just a bad joke.

Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
October 13 2012 08:39 GMT
#1213
On October 13 2012 17:36 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:25 Dundron2000 wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:20 CoR wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:19 Dundron2000 wrote:
Thank you EG for continuing to introduce standards of professionalism into the non-korean scene


american standards of being prude ... oh yes thats what we needed ...


if you want to have good sponsors, some things will be changing. one of them is that immature kids cant act like immature kids.

The market is young adults. The players are young adults. Young adults make jokes. Please don't lose any sleep over this, because there is lots of money in the game already. There could always be more money, but you can't go up to Google with a sponsorship proposal and your only point of sale be "yeah we have this guy who plays a video game AND we don't let him say random things on battle.net!" and instantly grow the scene.


well partly. he optimal market would be people with money which doesnt perfectly overlap with the young adult crowd. esports exanding depends on reaching beyond
n.Die_Jaedong
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 08:43:49
October 13 2012 08:43 GMT
#1214
I don't understand why are people banned/suspended because of some words. It's ridiculous to me really.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#1215
Thats way over the top from EG and also making him write such an apology... well, I don't really think he means it and I don't think he should feel that bad. It can happen, cutting his money and him out of tournaments - thats not up to EG nor the community to decide.

What are we? Police, law? Will we be kicking and banning players for drinking when underage? For smoking weed? As much as I usually like EG, I feel that is over the top and nothing less but stupid.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
October 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#1216
Honestly.. you can take the words in the worst possible way and push for a suspesion/trial/death-penalty for Stephano. Or you could take a step back and think.

Have you never ever ever after completely running someone over on the ladder or in a CW joked with your friends that you "fucked that guy/kid/asshole good"? Well in this case, the player that was ran over was a known 14yo GM player.

He realized the implications and joked to his friend (in what he thought was a private conversation as he clearly didn't realize Bling was streaming) even more.

Was it tasteless? YES!
Was it stupid? YES!
Should Stephano be suspended (and consequently neutered to save those precious children)? NO!
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
October 13 2012 08:45 GMT
#1217
Can't believe how many times rape has been thrown around in this thread. It's not rape if she wants it. I don't think Stephano said he forced himself on her. Nope. Not rape.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 13 2012 08:45 GMT
#1218
On October 13 2012 17:39 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:33 Caihead wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
A poor joke made on a video game chat, big deal in NA it seems.


Is the SC2 community schizophrenic? You want SC2 to be taken seriously and to "grow esports" then you shun any degree of professionalism the next day simply because your favorite insert player / team is being affected. I can't number the times that a professional athlete / team / manager and even secondary staff and coaches have been scrutinized and penalized from leagues, pay rolls, or team contracts due to badly phrased public statements or private statements that were subsequently leaked due to stupidity. And no it doesn't matter what country you are in, it's going to happen if there is any degree of professionalism or sponsorship behind it.



And that is a good thing? Answer the question to yourself, is that a good thing? That every shit you do private will be used against you just because you are in the public spotlight?

I dont want to be the sc2 scene like that. Just some people making a big deal out of nothing. We as a sc2 community shouldnt give a damn at all. We should be different and better.



Fucking bad joke that wasnt even funny and it was stupid not to check if bling is streaming but still : Just a bad joke.



My opinion on whether or not it's a good or bad thing shouldn't matter, people don't seem to understand that if you want to quote grow esports unquote you have to expect things like this. The linkage isn't "only boring stuck ups who make a big deal out of nothing" are capable of sponsoring and growing a sport, it's that immature and unprofessional athletes / players don't help give your sport any legitimacy.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 08:46:25
October 13 2012 08:45 GMT
#1219
Stephano needed an excuse to cancel tournaments as he's going to korea so EG made up this story?
Might just be my hangover but this seems weird.
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Rasputincz
Profile Joined May 2011
Czech Republic95 Posts
October 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#1220
it was just joke on /b/ or reddit basis. I think this was huge overextention by EG who takes it too seriously. I realize that esports scene around SC2 is getting serious and such but its still just game played by young almost adults (in most of the cases) who just wanna have fun sometimes. Just huge hype around nothing.
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