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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 13 2012 09:19 GMT
#1241
Good job EG, i agree with this move. I don't really see a joke here too, if it was one, that's quite a bad one.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
October 13 2012 09:20 GMT
#1242
Yeah it's business. A professional sports organization just can't be associated with something like that, sponsors run a mile. It's true it was private chat etc etc but that doesn't mean anything once it has become public. EG is doing what any business would. Stephano will learn from it. Just the way it is. Really TLers personal opinions about underage sex etc etc are not relevant.
Dance those ultras
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 13 2012 09:20 GMT
#1243
On October 13 2012 17:49 Odoakar wrote:
This 'reddetization' of gaming comunities is the reason I don't really follow SC2 anymore. The whole scene and comunity is just so childish, thinking everything is a joke and there's no consequences to any actions.

Doesnt apply to koreans imho
HexWins
Profile Joined July 2012
3 Posts
October 13 2012 09:21 GMT
#1244
I disagree with eg's decision, they have forfeited their opportunites in upcomming events. Well done EG, you have just lost out on some great chances.
To be a pro, you need to learn from the pro's.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
October 13 2012 09:21 GMT
#1245
I feel sorry for Stephano (assuming he just has very specific style of humor).

Not the best time/place to pull this kind of talk, but still, seems a little too harsh... On the other hand, I understand EG protecting their PR, just hope they wont punish Stephano in this manner for every single thing he pulls. Else there will either be no Stephano in tournaments or no Stephano in EG.
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 13 2012 09:21 GMT
#1246
On October 13 2012 17:18 CoR wrote:
i think main problem is

1. for some its funny for some not but still its a joke
2. if its not a joke its legal with 14 years in france so still no problem
3. the employer of stephano is AMERICAN and usa is know for being prude, perhaps more prude then some arabic states

and 3 is the problem, if you know you have a prude employer you CANT write things like this without consequences. sure stephano didnt think about that because we here in europe normaly think a more "free" way then americans ...

Rape is illegal witout regard to age
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
October 13 2012 09:23 GMT
#1247
wtf..brain freeze i guess
Somethings are just worth fighting for
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 09:26:12
October 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#1248
On October 13 2012 18:16 MrJoKer wrote:
This is just a private joke betwin Bling and Sthephano , is'nt it ? But if Stephano said just to " buzz " or something like this he deserve this suspention .

When you represent professional organizations you cannot joke about having sex with someone underage (whether or not 14yo is underage in France doesn't matter much), and especially not abusing them. It is much worse that there was no clear indication that it was a joke, so people may just wonder. In any professional setting such unprofessional conduct could easily mean a 1 month suspension, or termination.

Of course if Stephano actually committed such an offense the response will be much worse (I personally strongly believe it was a joke), but the mere suggestion that he might have is enough to warrant a 1 month suspension.

Maybe EG could have predicted that Stephano would act unprofessionally, but that does not mean that they are not well within their rights to enforce the terms of the contract they signed with him. Stephano chose to sign with a professional team, and then you must act professional or face the consequences.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 09:26:20
October 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#1249
On October 13 2012 18:00 kochujang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 17:56 Pantythief wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:52 Caihead wrote:
On October 13 2012 17:47 Rasputincz wrote:
it was just joke on /b/ or reddit basis. I think this was huge overextention by EG who takes it too seriously. I realize that esports scene around SC2 is getting serious and such but its still just game played by young almost adults (in most of the cases) who just wanna have fun sometimes. Just huge hype around nothing.


Same could be said about any actual sport, I don't understand the demographic argument, people do realize that it's not a mark of maturity to defend stephano and rage at EG right? It's with in EG's rights as a private company to do what they want with in the contractual means, just as Stephano is free to choose which ever team he wants to go to in a competitive market, this isn't you talking with Stephano in a private environment and you giving your opinion on whether or not you would be personally offended by a joke.


starcraft is not an actual sport.

also, in esports we should be able to laugh at this, not pretend it's a big deal.

honestly thought people were better than this, lol.

Stephano can, according to law, be convicted as a sexual offender. This is a big deal everywhere, or do you live somewhere were it is commonplace?


You can be convicted as a sexual offender based on a joke? In a different universe maybe.


On October 13 2012 17:59 Shebuha wrote:
I'm getting really annoyed by the SCII community, and I really don't want to be. A really shitty joke that accidentally got out caused more than 60 pages of comments and a 1 month suspension on the joker. Wow. I don't understand why people in this community have to make such big deals over things that either trivial, or aren't any of their business. Just because you see a picture or hear about something happening between people doesn't make it your personal business; it doesn't make it your God-given obligation to message sponsors or try to get someone fucked over.

I really don't want people to get fucked by people messaging sponsors when it is completely unnecessary. I have to wonder, would it be better if we messaged sponsors every time someone said something immature or something bad happened, or if it would be better to not bother them with utter nonsense such as this. Do sponsors want to join a community where everyone runs around acting like a 14 year old brat? NOPE. Do sponsors want to join a community where every time something remotely bad happens they're getting messaged? ALSO NOPE. So what's the solution? I dunno, but it isn't to message sponsors every time an immature 20 year old acts like an immature 20 year old!!

K NEED TO COOL DOWN NOW.




Couldnt be said any better.
CarpetmoOse
Profile Joined February 2012
United States22 Posts
October 13 2012 09:27 GMT
#1250
I don't see how people 'feel sorry for Stephano' for making a crude joke about, something illegal at that, with a minor. And he only gets suspended for a month? Shoot, at least Destiny didn't do something illegal. Yes racism is bad, but wow. I can't believe the double standards of people some times.

You don't be as big as Stephano and be that careless when you know there are tons of youngsters looking up to him. With the amount of streams going on, you sure as hell better make sure that other person isn't streaming before you say something like that. And if wanting eSports to be professional, imagine what an NFL, NBA, MLB, or any pro athlete out there said this and it got leaked.
-3 rep to EG for the slap on the wrist. 1 month without pay is nothing for what Stephano has made in his winnings within the last 3-6 months alone.
"Moral of this story is.. Hurry up, or else you will miss the bus." - Grubby
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
October 13 2012 09:29 GMT
#1251
people are stupid
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 13 2012 09:30 GMT
#1252
So why do they let idrA insulting all of his opponents he meet in ladder ? xd
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
October 13 2012 09:31 GMT
#1253
Ooooh, I get it now...it's the "special" reddit army of retards at it again.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Defrag
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland414 Posts
October 13 2012 09:31 GMT
#1254
I'm really surprised by the extent of actions taken by EG managment but all I cay say is: holy shit, well done. This is probably the most professional approach to any of the SC2 scandals that hit the scene.

My respect for the EG just went up tenfolds.
give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
October 13 2012 09:32 GMT
#1255
I can't even be bothered to care anymore...
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1718 Posts
October 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#1256
In France ppl don't take that kind of statement seriously unless there is proven facts. I mean ok I just said to one of my client that my employer was a dickhead, did he stop paying me for one month because I wasn't giving a good image? Lol hell no, I can bring him to court for that kind of shit.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
October 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#1257
Wow, totally unexpected! Woke up today, checked TL and I find this!

It's too bad since I was looking forward to him competing in the GSL - I wonder if this ban would affect that?
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
October 13 2012 09:36 GMT
#1258
On October 13 2012 18:35 Azzur wrote:
Wow, totally unexpected! Woke up today, checked TL and I find this!

It's too bad since I was looking forward to him competing in the GSL - I wonder if this ban would affect that?

His suspension will be over before the next season of GSL will begin, so he will be eligible to compete if he wants to i would guess.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
October 13 2012 09:38 GMT
#1259
On October 13 2012 18:33 iFU.pauline wrote:
In France ppl don't take that kind of statement seriously unless there is proven facts. I mean ok I just said to one of my client that my employer was a dickhead, did he stop paying me for one month because I wasn't giving a good image? Lol hell no, I can bring him to court for that kind of shit.

But Stephano isn't just in France. He derives his income from his international reputation, not just the French one. And he is not hired as a programmer, or a data entry assistant, he is hired solely to represent EG and its sponsors in a favorable way. Therefore what he says matters a great deal more, than what someone with an ordinary job does (btw abuse of a 14yo is generally considered worse than dislike for your boss in most of the world).
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 09:40 GMT
#1260
The dangers of not giving the fuck.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
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