EPTAnyway, anyone knows if it will affect the ESCW at the Paris Game Weeks ? I planned to go see Stephano play between 29 october and 3 november ...
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aXa
France748 Posts
Anyway, anyone knows if it will affect the ESCW at the Paris Game Weeks ? I planned to go see Stephano play between 29 october and 3 november ... | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:33 iFU.pauline wrote: In France ppl don't take that kind of statement seriously unless there is proven facts. I mean ok I just said to one of my client that my employer was a dickhead, did he stop paying me for one month because I wasn't giving a good image? Lol hell no, I can bring him to court for that kind of shit. Not only is your analogy invalid - dislike of boss vs abuse of 14 yo (WTF that you considered it equivalent lol!), Stephano is paid by EG to represent them. As a paid employee, Stephano is obliged to follow the rules and regulations that are fair. Still, I know what Stephano said is obviously a joke - and I do think that the PC world is a little bit too much. | ||
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qqK
Germany282 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4759 Posts
 Stephano really needs to be more careful about what he says publicly (and if he as a 19year old really had sex with a 14 year old... oh well, not a good thing, but it is not as if this isn't relatively common, both are just teenagers). . | ||
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Keefmaster
Iceland12 Posts
Evil Geniuses 1 Freedom of speech 0 | ||
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Meggiroth
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CarpetmoOse
United States22 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:44 Malinor wrote: I am pretty happy that I live a life where stupid things I say in a meaningless chat between friends can't be hold against me. Doesn't qualify me as a politician though Stephano really needs to be more careful about what he says publicly (and if he as a 19year old really had sex with a 14 year old... oh well, not a good thing, but it is not as if this isn't relatively common, both are just teenagers). . Its not oh well, its F***ing illegal. Not only the US, but around the world its not exactly 'meh, oh well." Not only that, if you are in the US, guess what? You go by US laws. If I was in France and hypothetically did something illegal there, but I go "oh well in the US, this is okay so back off." I bet you they wouldn't take kind to that, now would they? | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1781 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:38 rasnj wrote: But Stephano isn't just in France. He derives his income from his international reputation, not just the French one. And he is not hired as a programmer, or a data entry assistant, he is hired solely to represent EG and its sponsors in a favorable way. Therefore what he says matters a great deal more, than what someone with an ordinary job does (btw abuse of a 14yo is generally considered worse than dislike for your boss in most of the world). I totally disagree with that, starcraft is e-sport, it has nothing to do with politics, this issue is pure politics, a soccer player can say whatever he wants outside the garden. Just an example, Gignac a soccer player threaten some random guy in the street to beat the shit out of him in front of his family because of some stupid argument. It went in the news, does it mean his club punished him? No... I don't see why ppl can't see the difference. Politics is not e-sport and therefore shoudn't be mixed. | ||
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AzureHath
Bulgaria154 Posts
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aXa
France748 Posts
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4759 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:47 CarpetmoOse wrote: Its not oh well, its F***ing illegal. Not only the US, but around the world its not exactly 'meh, oh well." Not only that, if you are in the US, guess what? You go by US laws. If I was in France and hypothetically did something illegal there, but I go "oh well in the US, this is okay so back off." I bet you they wouldn't take kind to that, now would they? I don't know where this supposed incident happened. And it is illegal in Germany too. I don't take sides here but I went to a highschool which was basically without violence or any bigger problems of any kind. And these kind of relationships were pretty common. A girl in my class had a 23year old boyfriend when she was 14 and the parents knew about it. And that was as an upper class family. So when I say 'oh well', this is just me being not surprised because it happens all the time. Again, this is not me talking about morality or legal things. I am just saying in the real world these things happen, the differences between a 14yo girl and a 19yo boy are not really that big. 19yo fuck 15-16 yo all the time in Germany. And sometimes they are just one year younger. This is just reality. | ||
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Asmodeusx
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ajxPurpleRain
United States87 Posts
That said, now that the story has broken I suppose Evil Geniuses don't really have a choice in the matter. It's just a shame that it has to work out this way. When the most interesting and iconoclastic and outspoken people in the scene are consistently being punished it bums me out. It just seems like some people (usually the players I truly like) aren't really suited for being corporate salespeople. Just because you are starcraft gamewinning machine doesn't mean that you are the best keyboard and RAM salesman. I suppose what really sucks is that to be a starcraft player you are ultimately beholden to the whims of keyboard and RAM sales. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:45 Keefmaster wrote: Sigh.... Evil Geniuses 1 Freedom of speech 0 More like /srs/: 1 The Starcraft community: -10 I think we should all email sponsors and let them know how much we appreciate the fact that they support what we love. And not just the EG sponsors, all sponsors. | ||
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SohcranA
United States36 Posts
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Roynalf
Finland886 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:48 iFU.pauline wrote: I totally disagree with that, starcraft is e-sport, it has nothing to do with politics, this issue is pure politics, a soccer player can say whatever he wants outside the garden. Just an example, Gignac a soccer player threaten some random guy in the street to beat the shit out of him in front of his family because of some stupid argument. It went in the news, does it mean his club punished him? No... I don't see why ppl can't see the difference. Politics is not e-sport and therefore shoudn't be mixed. I can promise you that plenty of sports allow suspensions and fines for unprofessional conduct, even if soccer teams do not tend to be keen on it. And why do you think EG hired Stephano. Just to win tournaments? EG couldn't care less about the actual tournaments, they care about associated exposure of their brand and their sponsors brand. This does not mean that it is not a sport or that it is 100% politics. Stephano would be much more valuable to EG if he acted professionally, and not as he did with millenium where he was treated as Mill's boss. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:45 Keefmaster wrote: Sigh.... Evil Geniuses 1 Freedom of speech 0 u can't blame EG here, they were under the pression of the all mighty white knights of reddit | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On October 13 2012 18:47 CarpetmoOse wrote: Its not oh well, its F***ing illegal. Not only the US, but around the world its not exactly 'meh, oh well." Not only that, if you are in the US, guess what? You go by US laws. If I was in France and hypothetically did something illegal there, but I go "oh well in the US, this is okay so back off." I bet you they wouldn't take kind to that, now would they? Freedom of speech is illegal? US has changed I see. And btw why you talking about US law? | ||
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