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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 27 2012 00:32 GMT
#421
On September 27 2012 09:28 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:14 Zorkmid wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:11 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:08 FXOUnstable wrote:
Ok so, FXOBoSs just woke up.

Yes he did go on the record but his comment has been taken out of context, quote given was only as his opinion on one of the factors mentioned when talking to some players on our team. Others include conflicting schedules, prioritizing other events, not enough prize pool etc.

I cannot comment on other players however the conversation with Leenock went along these line. "do you want to play in MvP?" "no too busy with gsl/gstl no time, but kespa 24 esf 8 wtf? sad"

So it was noted by the players but it certainly wasn't all of ESF banding together to not play in the league



Thank you for the update and information. This also reinforces my "Slasher wrote a crappy article" leaning.


So heresay trumps what someone said on the record now?

TL TL TL.

lol. the law & order generation. or is it the good wife?


Haven't seen the good wife. I hope it doesn't breed more of them.

i was just laughing at your use of "heresay" and "on the record" since both statements were hearsay and neither was "on the record" in the legal sense.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#422
On September 27 2012 09:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:14 Zorkmid wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:11 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:08 FXOUnstable wrote:
Ok so, FXOBoSs just woke up.

Yes he did go on the record but his comment has been taken out of context, quote given was only as his opinion on one of the factors mentioned when talking to some players on our team. Others include conflicting schedules, prioritizing other events, not enough prize pool etc.

I cannot comment on other players however the conversation with Leenock went along these line. "do you want to play in MvP?" "no too busy with gsl/gstl no time, but kespa 24 esf 8 wtf? sad"

So it was noted by the players but it certainly wasn't all of ESF banding together to not play in the league



Thank you for the update and information. This also reinforces my "Slasher wrote a crappy article" leaning.


So heresay trumps what someone said on the record now?

TL TL TL.

lol. the law & order generation. or is it the good wife?


Hey now. The original Law & Order was legit. The rest of them (and CSI, NCIS, etc) really were crap.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:37:55
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#423
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#424
Good move once again by ESF, there is absolutely no reason (at least no good once) to treat Kespa players differently to any other player. This isn't BW and Sc2 has been out for over two years, they made their choice to get into the race late that doesn't mean they should get a free ticket to the front of the line.

Or maybe MLG feels that 24 Kespa players has earned seeds while only 8 ESF players have? I am starting to get really good grounds for boycotting MLG events, not like there aren't more then enough other events to watch.
Garoodah
Profile Joined January 2012
United States56 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#425
Im not surprised. Pro players are already so busy as it is with gsl, gstl, ipl, dreamhacks, wcs etc that there is no time left for other tournaments. Esports is going to grow too large (its almost there in my opinion) and pretty soon we will see staggered tournaments, GSL probably still showcasing the top players, and then tiered down from there. The next 6 months will be really interesting.
"Oh man we've got GG-lords"
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
September 27 2012 00:37 GMT
#426
On September 27 2012 09:34 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:14 Zorkmid wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:11 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:08 FXOUnstable wrote:
Ok so, FXOBoSs just woke up.

Yes he did go on the record but his comment has been taken out of context, quote given was only as his opinion on one of the factors mentioned when talking to some players on our team. Others include conflicting schedules, prioritizing other events, not enough prize pool etc.

I cannot comment on other players however the conversation with Leenock went along these line. "do you want to play in MvP?" "no too busy with gsl/gstl no time, but kespa 24 esf 8 wtf? sad"

So it was noted by the players but it certainly wasn't all of ESF banding together to not play in the league



Thank you for the update and information. This also reinforces my "Slasher wrote a crappy article" leaning.


So heresay trumps what someone said on the record now?

TL TL TL.

lol. the law & order generation. or is it the good wife?


Hey now. The original Law & Order was legit. The rest of them (and CSI, NCIS, etc) really were crap.


Heyheyhey, hold on now. no one can diss Gibbs. NO ONE
FXOUnstable
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#427
So since Slasher's information is wrong where does he actually gets it from?
Putting the gamespot site as a source is not really believable.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
September 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#428
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???


If GSL could give 8 seeds Code S to KeSPA they would've, it would've increased viewership... they just couldn't do it because there's no space without totally revamping the format.

Expect both U&D seeds as well as both Code S seeds to go to KeSPA players this year.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:44:47
September 27 2012 00:43 GMT
#429
On September 27 2012 09:37 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:34 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:14 Zorkmid wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:11 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:08 FXOUnstable wrote:
Ok so, FXOBoSs just woke up.

Yes he did go on the record but his comment has been taken out of context, quote given was only as his opinion on one of the factors mentioned when talking to some players on our team. Others include conflicting schedules, prioritizing other events, not enough prize pool etc.

I cannot comment on other players however the conversation with Leenock went along these line. "do you want to play in MvP?" "no too busy with gsl/gstl no time, but kespa 24 esf 8 wtf? sad"

So it was noted by the players but it certainly wasn't all of ESF banding together to not play in the league



Thank you for the update and information. This also reinforces my "Slasher wrote a crappy article" leaning.


So heresay trumps what someone said on the record now?

TL TL TL.

lol. the law & order generation. or is it the good wife?


Hey now. The original Law & Order was legit. The rest of them (and CSI, NCIS, etc) really were crap.


Heyheyhey, hold on now. no one can diss Gibbs. NO ONE


Lennie Briscoe can. And would.

Still can't get over how many people are posting in here taking sides over an argument that isn't even confirmed to exist in any official sense.

On September 27 2012 09:38 Assirra wrote:
So since Slasher's information is wrong where does he actually gets it from?
Putting the gamespot site as a source is not really believable.


Actually, Gamespot IS Slasher. Slasher wrote the article in Gamespot.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:46:44
September 27 2012 00:45 GMT
#430
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???

eeeuh, you know that ESF played in the qualifiers like every other person right?
edit: it seems they got 4 seeds.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:48:15
September 27 2012 00:45 GMT
#431
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_OnGameNet_Starleague_Season_1

4 ESF seeds in OSL, 4 Kespa seeds in GSL (2 in each code, or was it 4 in code A + 2 in code S ? edit : yes it was), and even then it has nothing to do with anything here :O
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 00:47:33
September 27 2012 00:46 GMT
#432
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???


Read the thread please, what's written in the OP is NOT what's actually going down. According to fxounstable so far only 2 TWO ESF players have declined, and the reason was NOT the unfair treatment. Rumors like this, and allowing this thread to stay up without a big mod note or edit on the OP are really bad since it leaves people like you with the wrong impression from an OP with incorrect information, and the true explanations hidden deeper in the thread and harder to find.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Qnfauf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States17 Posts
September 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#433
I will always side against Kespa because of what they have done so far in both Broodwar and SC2. They have been nothing but greedy and didn't hesitate to show it to get what they want.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#434
On September 27 2012 09:40 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???


If GSL could give 8 seeds Code S to KeSPA they would've, it would've increased viewership... they just couldn't do it because there's no space without totally revamping the format.

Expect both U&D seeds as well as both Code S seeds to go to KeSPA players this year.


Kespa revamped their format, too. The whole Dual tournament was cut to less than half the slots of what it used to be for Kespa players to make room for the ESFs (with whom they make less money than with Kespa players).

I more and more have the feeling that ESF with Blizz's help puts a pistol into Kespa's face and dictates whatever they feel like.
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
September 27 2012 00:53 GMT
#435
On September 27 2012 09:47 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:40 FairForever wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???


If GSL could give 8 seeds Code S to KeSPA they would've, it would've increased viewership... they just couldn't do it because there's no space without totally revamping the format.

Expect both U&D seeds as well as both Code S seeds to go to KeSPA players this year.


Kespa revamped their format, too. The whole Dual tournament was cut to less than half the slots of what it used to be for Kespa players to make room for the ESFs (with whom they make less money than with Kespa players).

I more and more have the feeling that ESF with Blizz's help puts a pistol into Kespa's face and dictates whatever they feel like.


Please read the goddamn thread and whats been written by people with actual insight in the story (IE. NOT SLASHER)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 27 2012 00:53 GMT
#436
On September 27 2012 09:47 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 09:40 FairForever wrote:
On September 27 2012 09:37 Fenrax wrote:
Wow, I really have the feeling I side with Kespa this time.

Kespa players get TWO seeds to Code S RO32 while ESF gets EIGHT into the RO16 OSL and now they fucking complain???


If GSL could give 8 seeds Code S to KeSPA they would've, it would've increased viewership... they just couldn't do it because there's no space without totally revamping the format.

Expect both U&D seeds as well as both Code S seeds to go to KeSPA players this year.


Kespa revamped their format, too. The whole Dual tournament was cut to less than half the slots of what it used to be for Kespa players to make room for the ESFs (with whom they make less money than with Kespa players).

I more and more have the feeling that ESF with Blizz's help puts a pistol into Kespa's face and dictates whatever they feel like.

How about reading FXOunstable posts before the conspiracies are starting. The OP is simply WRONG and almost tries to stir up drama.
Qnfauf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States17 Posts
September 27 2012 01:00 GMT
#437
By the way, KeSPA got 6 seeds into this season's GSL: 2 in Code S and 4 in Code A.

ESF players got 0 seeds into this season's GSL.

So, who's yelling that it's not fair? Apparently no one. And people are mad because ESF is abusing their power.

Get your facts straight before complaining.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 27 2012 01:00 GMT
#438
looks like even less people are going to pay for this
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
September 27 2012 01:00 GMT
#439
1)I like eSF trying to play hardball.

2)It is an MLG vs PL invitational. Hate to say it, but i think eSF is over reacting. Gom and gsl had a partnership earlier and gsl got benefits. The only difference now is that PL and Gom are seen in direct competition.

3) I admire the equal opportunity idea between PL and GOM, but i think gom should just let this happen because everyone is interested, and it will happen eventually.

4) Let's not talk about who deserves what. Because Blizzard deserves everlasting wealth for giving us sc in the first place if you trace it back far enough
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
September 27 2012 01:01 GMT
#440
On September 27 2012 09:32 dAPhREAk wrote:
i was just laughing at your use of "heresay" and "on the record" since both statements were hearsay and neither was "on the record" in the legal sense.


Saying that someone said something on the record is heresay sure!

But for Slasher to report it, doesn't it have to have been said "on the record"?
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