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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 27 2012 22:56 GMT
#561
for $10 you will only get 19-32 games, not that great a deal imo especially compared with gsl
plus their english production is kinda meh atm
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 27 2012 23:17 GMT
#562
On September 28 2012 07:56 opterown wrote:
for $10 you will only get 19-32 games, not that great a deal imo especially compared with gsl
plus their english production is kinda meh atm


You know every player is playing every other player, right? There are six matches today with six more match days to follow. That's.... that's not 19-32 games, is that that is. Plus there are playoffs, which is eight additional match days.
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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
September 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#563
just go watch IPTL then NASL. way better than this tournament imo
as1
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 27 2012 23:37 GMT
#564
On September 28 2012 08:17 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 07:56 opterown wrote:
for $10 you will only get 19-32 games, not that great a deal imo especially compared with gsl
plus their english production is kinda meh atm


You know every player is playing every other player, right? There are six matches today with six more match days to follow. That's.... that's not 19-32 games, is that that is. Plus there are playoffs, which is eight additional match days.

was talking about the OSL, oops
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heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 04:55:40
September 28 2012 04:35 GMT
#565
am i too naive to think that MLG is still keeping friendly relationship with Gomtv?

can they just write news depend on real material and investment, bad job to make that kind of news even if they are true
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 28 2012 04:44 GMT
#566
Wow great job by ESF players. They were basically MLG's best friend, then MLG found kespa and just sold out and think they are too cool for ESF. I guess this just proves that nice guys finish last.
Save me from myself
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
September 28 2012 17:48 GMT
#567
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 28 2012 18:48 GMT
#568
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


rigged?
It's just good business
moo...for DRG
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 28 2012 19:00 GMT
#569
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol
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RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 28 2012 19:03 GMT
#570
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.
hohoho
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 28 2012 19:04 GMT
#571
On September 28 2012 13:44 brokenLoL wrote:
Wow great job by ESF players. They were basically MLG's best friend, then MLG found kespa and just sold out and think they are too cool for ESF. I guess this just proves that nice guys finish last.


Well too be fair MLG and GOM was not in the best relationship since Naniwa thing, and certainly after GSTL final @ IPL4.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 28 2012 19:19 GMT
#572
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 28 2012 19:34 GMT
#573
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.
hohoho
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:43:18
September 28 2012 19:42 GMT
#574
On September 29 2012 04:34 RifleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.


mlg players have mlg experience, that was the point for their invite afaik. proleague players have their proleague experience and this tournament is merging of the two. why are people splitting hairs about this? as if these proleague players are no name scrubs.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:45:34
September 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#575
Their problem is with the format.

MLG made the qualification part of this tournament. To say they have no qualification process is folly because it's part of the format.

Once again, we're talking about misplaced criticism.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 28 2012 19:48 GMT
#576
On September 29 2012 04:42 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:34 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.


mlg players have mlg experience, that was the point for their invite afaik. proleague players have their proleague experience and this tournament is merging of the two. why are people splitting hairs about this? as if these proleague players are no name scrubs.


I have more problem with # of seeding given out than anything else. It is a cross server glorified online show match involving 48 players, no matter how qualified they are. And I think most people agree it is not a bracket well suited for determining player's skill level. MLG is giving out 8 spots to group play from it somehow, which is 1/4 of total group spots if same format as previous championship. 2 I can totally agree to, 8 just seems a lot more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 19:56:53
September 28 2012 19:48 GMT
#577
On September 29 2012 04:42 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:34 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.


mlg players have mlg experience, that was the point for their invite afaik. proleague players have their proleague experience and this tournament is merging of the two. why are people splitting hairs about this? as if these proleague players are no name scrubs.


Depends on how much significance you place on the competition from the hybrid proleague. Splitting hairs over 2 or 4 or watever seeds doesn't really matter to me; MLG can do what they want. ESF players can also feel like it isn't worth to them in terms of time and money and whatnot. The amount of interest will be shown in the viewer numbers.

EDIT: I personally am not going to watch this tournament because I don't think a cross-server tournament will show good games. The only reason I purchased the MLG arenas is due to the FPV of the players, since that isn't available, I don't think the tourny is worth the price point.
hohoho
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#578
On September 29 2012 04:48 RifleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:42 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:34 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.


mlg players have mlg experience, that was the point for their invite afaik. proleague players have their proleague experience and this tournament is merging of the two. why are people splitting hairs about this? as if these proleague players are no name scrubs.


Depends on how much significance you place on the competition from the hybrid proleague. Splitting hairs over 2 or 4 or watever seeds doesn't really matter to me; MLG can do what they want. ESF players can also feel like it isn't worth to them in terms of time and money and whatnot. The amount of interest will be shown in the viewer numbers.

EDIT: I personally am not going to watch this tournament because I don't think a cross-server tournament will show good games. The only reason I purchased the MLG arenas is due to the FPV of the players, since that isn't available, I don't think the tourny is worth the price point.


For your last point, Lee said on Lo3 that that would be available at some point, I think. I don't remember exactly, but he definitely brought up watching a match from Jaedong's perspective.
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
October 03 2012 21:09 GMT
#579
On September 29 2012 04:34 RifleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 04:19 StarStruck wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:03 RifleCow wrote:
On September 29 2012 04:00 jinorazi wrote:
On September 29 2012 02:48 Pudge_172 wrote:
Just saw how the bracket is... Kespa player guaranteed a spot in the finals.... no way I'm paying for this....


so does mlg side, 1 mlg finalist vs 1 proleague finalist.

wtf is wrong with people lol

People don't like the automatic seed into the MLG procircuit without any qualification process.


Technically they did the qualification process through the actual format. so perhaps we should edit your post and remove the automatic seed with format with regards to your distaste for the process.


I personally have no opinion either way. But I certainly see peoples criticisms of the fact that an invite tournament provides seeding into the MLG pro circuit. Especially since the invitees haven't even played at a proper MLG tournament prior to this invite tournament.


I'm sure these KeSPA players won't be able to make it out of the open brackets if they didn't get automatic seeds.
Since open brackets @ MLGs are so packed full of talented players and MLG players are dominating this tournament. lmao


The reason for the free seeds is to attract KeSPA players to MLG events. Why would Flash want to waste time preparing for the GSL or OSL to compete against minor league competition? He could probably find better competition at a random PC room.
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