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Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
September 27 2012 03:35 GMT
#521
On September 27 2012 12:18 mage36 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 12:06 Nosferatos wrote:
Yay (Irony), with Stephano and Scarlett out of the picture, KESPA is going crush MLG. This tournament is becoming more of a joke, my interest is (almost) gone, with only Naniwa still keeping me interested. And even he is having a heavy time atm.

You totally misused the word "irony". It should be "sarcasm".


Thanks, it's not always easy.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 27 2012 03:45 GMT
#522
On September 27 2012 12:35 Nosferatos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 12:18 mage36 wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:06 Nosferatos wrote:
Yay (Irony), with Stephano and Scarlett out of the picture, KESPA is going crush MLG. This tournament is becoming more of a joke, my interest is (almost) gone, with only Naniwa still keeping me interested. And even he is having a heavy time atm.

You totally misused the word "irony". It should be "sarcasm".


Thanks, it's not always easy.


well its not always easy because in many situations it can be either. You can say "yay" both sarcastically or ironically.... as far as im concerned, you had it right first time around.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 27 2012 04:58 GMT
#523
There was no ESF wide decline as the thread title would suggest, only bad, drama stirring journalism. I say this thread should get closed before people turn it into a KeSPA vs ESF shitfest which is happening already.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 27 2012 05:33 GMT
#524
On September 27 2012 00:51 ReachTheSky wrote:
I definitely can see why ESF would do this. Its a slap in the face.

Yeah...i'm starting to lose interest in this tounament.It's a shame this could have been something big(probably the bigest thing since sc2 came out).
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 06:20:39
September 27 2012 06:11 GMT
#525
On September 27 2012 13:58 Roman666 wrote:
There was no ESF wide decline as the thread title would suggest, only bad, drama stirring journalism. I say this thread should get closed before people turn it into a KeSPA vs ESF shitfest which is happening already.

+1


if MLG is trying to put on "the next big thing" in SC2 competitive play then they require a prize pool commensurate with the hype.

had the prize pool been say ... $350,000 then i suspect every ESF invitee would gladly participate.

it all comes down to money.

in the past MLG has been able to offer very low prize pools and yet maintain a high level of prestige.
now that MLG is stepping out onto a more world wide scale of stage...

money talks..
bullshit walks...

you'd figure being an american Sundance would know this.
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CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
September 27 2012 07:30 GMT
#526
Sweet sweet justice.. thats what theyh get for screwing ESF
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markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 08:07:39
September 27 2012 07:36 GMT
#527
its not just a bullshit prize pool but a stupid seeding plan. MLG Fall Championship won't mean much now. about the prestige equivalent of Korea vs The World "GSL World Championship". A bit more than a show match
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 27 2012 07:37 GMT
#528
We cant keep calling these events "eSPORTS" if one of the biggest tournament organizations is having partnerships with certain teams. Take a step out of your nerd bubble and it is very obvious how silly and unprofessional this is.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 08:38:55
September 27 2012 08:38 GMT
#529
On September 27 2012 16:37 Fjodorov wrote:
We cant keep calling these events "eSPORTS" if one of the biggest tournament organizations is having partnerships with certain teams. Take a step out of your nerd bubble and it is very obvious how silly and unprofessional this is.


sports have been partially biased forever.

in baseball the owner of the milwaukee brewers is the commissioner... half the league is juiced or on HGH.
in hockey sam pollock basically robbed every expansion team for high draft picks
in basketball we have crooked referees and the NBA tries to call it an isolated incident despite a mountain of evidence suggesting he was working with other referees.
and then in international european football ... check out a book called "the fix" by Declan Hill.

horse racing.. talk to anyone who has worked with thoroughbreds....

starcraft/MLG is no better or worse than these higher profile mainstream sports...
welcome to the adult world.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 27 2012 09:14 GMT
#530
Hi,

Could OP be updated with the importants quotes (i think of FXO's ones) because it's not really helping to know the reactions and what's going on if you don't have time to browse all of the 30pages on the thread ?

Thank you
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 27 2012 09:17 GMT
#531
I reminded of Serenity... Nothing here is what it seems. Slasher is not the plucky journalist busting a conspiracy. MLG's MvP is not a serious tournament. This is not a fight between two rival organizations. FXOBoss is not the dark mastermind behind it all.

And that's not incense. *boom*

Seriously... There is nothing to see here, move along. I think the transparency we need is from Slasher.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51577 Posts
September 27 2012 09:51 GMT
#532
Anyone know who replaced Stephano from Europe?
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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
September 27 2012 10:04 GMT
#533
imo its more about the lag issues from cross server plays rather than esf vs kespa shit.
way to stir drama.
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#534
On September 27 2012 18:51 GTR wrote:
Anyone know who replaced Stephano from Europe?

I don't know if anyone will replace him. Were there any replacements for MKP, Losira and Scarlett announced?
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
September 27 2012 10:56 GMT
#535
Oh boy, here we go.

ESF didn't sign partnership with MLG so they shouldn't be randomly spouting stuff like that.
Ban ESF from OSL and have Rain vs Last in OSL finals. Simple stuff.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 11:02:20
September 27 2012 11:00 GMT
#536
On September 27 2012 19:56 DidYuhim wrote:
Oh boy, here we go.

ESF didn't sign partnership with MLG so they shouldn't be randomly spouting stuff like that.
Ban ESF from OSL and have Rain vs Last in OSL finals. Simple stuff.

read
the
goddam
thread.
The OP is WRONG. The title is WRONG and this thread should be closed or heavily edited.
The OP is designed in the way you think all the ESF players declined when only 2 did for various reasons (to busy with GSL/GSTL, lagg and so forth)
CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
September 27 2012 11:26 GMT
#537
As constructive as it may sound : Kespa deserves this and even more
Just a few more drones I sware !
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
September 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#538

User was temp banned for this post.


so, there are mods to ban this guy, but there are not mods to clarify the op
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.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
September 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#539
esf acting like turds again.

User was temp banned for this post.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 27 2012 13:00 GMT
#540
On September 27 2012 19:07 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:51 GTR wrote:
Anyone know who replaced Stephano from Europe?

I don't know if anyone will replace him. Were there any replacements for MKP, Losira and Scarlett announced?

they weren't part of the original announcement, whereas stephano was
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