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Archonn
Profile Joined September 2012
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September 30 2012 21:37 GMT
#121
On October 01 2012 05:11 desarrisc wrote:
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On September 30 2012 23:26 Archonn wrote:
On September 30 2012 22:53 monkybone wrote:
On September 30 2012 22:48 Archonn wrote:
The Wraith/Banshee would have been a effective combo, maybe more effective than Viking/Banshee. The Viking is still very fragile (just 125 hit points, just like the wraith). I also don't like how Vikings are too slow to escape effectively from Stimpack Marines or Blinking Stalkers, which both rip light air units to shreds.


The key point about the viking is its range. Reduce it and its efficiency would have been reduced drastically. I don't know the range of wraiths, but i assume it is much lower. Anyway, consider how useless it would be in TvP: With an obs the stalkers would shoot them down instantly, and if any of them have energy they would get feedbacked. In TvZ they would just clump up even more than vikings do.


That's why I used the comsat scan in TvP back in Sc1. You could just scan, and then just kill the Observers in just around 3 seconds (If it's just one Observer, a group of Wraiths could just one shot it and the stalkers could only hope to just get one volley of attack). Now the wraiths have a weak ground attack for killing the helpless ground units, but that would not be a issue if you had some Banshees around. You could argue that Vikings snipe obs for Banshees too, but without the support of a large enough ground army, the stalkers would just blink near them. Since Viking lack the speed, they would just get shot down like sitting ducks.

And if the Protoss player has Templars out already, then it's very likely Terran player would have Ghosts by then which could EMP them, preventing the use of feedback or psi storm.

In TvZ, Wraiths would be even more effective than they were in Sc1 because not every Overlord can detect cloaked units now.


I try my best to explain Terran unit designs in context of the lore rather from the gameplay, because sc1/2 gameplay are all based on low-orbital combat situations (not much space-space battles without ground troops). Essentially, in space-based combat, vikings would be able to devastate large capital ships, overlords, and other flying things much better than a wraith would.



Agreed, especially since the Viking has an amazing missile range.
poogpoogs
Profile Joined September 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 14:33:07
October 21 2012 03:39 GMT
#122
On October 01 2012 06:36 Evangelist wrote:
I should love this thread, but some of the reasoning is a bit rubbish :p The cloak field idea is so silly - particularly when you consider that it would be countered, in seconds, by acoustic sonar and radar (since the field couldn't trap radio waves due to communication).

Much easier to just invoke meta-materials and claim that the rest is due to low profile cold thrusters, ramjets, unusual acoustic profiling and stealth plating.



the thing about the sonar/radar is is that the comsat scan and the raven have it, but probably for the purpose of economy, they don't put them in to other terran units.
although,your idea on stealth tech is perfectly viable, but the wraith can on and off cloak,with out its speed or shape being changed like your ideas propose.
desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
October 21 2012 06:04 GMT
#123
On October 01 2012 06:36 Evangelist wrote:
I should love this thread, but some of the reasoning is a bit rubbish :p The cloak field idea is so silly - particularly when you consider that it would be countered, in seconds, by acoustic sonar and radar (since the field couldn't trap radio waves due to communication).

Much easier to just invoke meta-materials and claim that the rest is due to low profile cold thrusters, ramjets, unusual acoustic profiling and stealth plating.



Oh I actually missed this post. Acoustic sonar can't travel through vacuum like space. Radar only detects large enough spaceships, and design of a wraith can simply counter this (like contemporary stealth fighters).


Also, sorry for the lack of posts. Crazy midterm season.
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