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It's Poptart!
I approve of this thread!
Too bad that "competitive team play" is a big oxymoron... but is fun for sh*ts and giggles.
Sincerely,
A True-Solo-Queue-4v4-Random-Rank-2-Masters-Player :D
On September 13 2012 09:49 pOnarreT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 11:49 Kashll wrote:
You spent a long time researching things, preparing screenshots and writing. Yet you didn't look up the correct spelling of "queue". You could be saying brilliant things about starcraft, I don't know. Because i instantly started skimming your posts once you lost your credibility.
Life is in the details man.
User was warned for this post You didn't capitalized "i" and s and c in "starcraft". You've lost your credibility. Life is in details.
Additional Corrections:
*The sentence starting with "You could..." is a run-on sentence. Replace the comma with a period to separate two complete sentences.
*The sentence starting with "Because..." is a fragmented sentence. You must have a main clause before or after the subordinate clause to make it a complete sentence.
*"Started to skim" > "Started skimming"
*People make mistakes. It is life.
*i pssoibly mdae an Miss Take in this sentences i think i may have spelt it wrongly? because , i dont know.
*Just sayin'.
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Okay, so Poptarts ideas for fixing the problem seem good to me. Im pretty much up for anything to fix the que time issue. As a bonus i would include the que i got today. And mind you that for some reason it still didnt place me in a league after the game. Battle.net needs to be fixed. It ruins the game when you get a high mmr and you literally cannot play the game. I actually fell asleep during the que time (didnt help i am sick) but thats besides the point. There needs to be a fix because once you hit a certain point the only way to actually play the game is to smurf so basically smurfing gets promoted by these que times. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xpvdR.png)
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Hahaha, Thanks Rain, you're amazing!
Punisher, Thanks for the picture i really appreciate it! Same here, on the topic of queuing, you basically HAVE to smurf to be able to play games. 184 minutes is WAY too long LOL!
Babyface, Thanks for understanding! I like what you said here "for those who thinkthis is actually think this is a 'how to guide". It's not, Poptartsplash is bringing this issue into the light because it is bogus and too easy to do. I've seen many lower than master skill level players reach top masters by doing this."
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I can't believe that you willingly queue that long for team games. If you'll wait that long to play, just invest time into playing 1v1 o.o
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I feel like the waiting until end of season to get top 8 would be fixed if they would fix the issue of people who play 1 game a season just to keep their league. The real issue here is if you are so inactive that you play like 3 or 4 games a season, why is the system keeping you in masters? There should be some kind of decay on MMR.
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queue is only long cuz u play 2-3am in NA...
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@killingvector, I agree 100 percent.
@OpTikDream. Probably KIND of true but not really :/. I'm sure it can't help tho. look at this: http://www.twitch.tv/natmo0470/b/332079155 - That is Punishers stream from when he decided to start streaming how long it took. He started queuing about 4:30 PM.
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@eifer funny thing is i fell asleep. and @OpTiKDream it was at around 4:30 like Poptart said. i cant play at 2-3am usually because im in school and it sucks when i get back from school and it takes 3 hours to get into a game pretty much takes up my day for one game.
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I'm not in favor of anything that you propose.
I have no sympathy for your long Q times since you and your other xS buddies Q all day into 4v4 random with 3 players in order to finish top few in the world in random brackets and think you're good, playing 3 arranged against 4 randoms all day.
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I guess it's cool to brag about but being if it shows that you were high master in achievements it doesn't really show or tell that much, unless of course you played a lot of games or so the legit way.
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Yeah I have no sympathy for these xS and mKc 4v4 progamers either when they are farming easy wins all day with 3 premades in random 4s. 99% of their games end in < 10 minutes and they do literally the same thing almost every time (some variant of abusive coordinated attack that a team of randoms have no chance to stop). Its pretty funny when they are basically collecting free wins all day (while trash talking “legit” random 4s players and thinking they are good) and then complain about having a too high MMR.
EDIT: I thought it is common sense that it is much easier to get a better rank in divisons created near season end since the players are generally less active and you need fewer points to climb up the ranks. Only these 4v4 progamers would think this is some sort of “ladder abuse” because they are the only ones that think their top master ranks in team games actually mean something.
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On September 15 2012 02:47 vNmMasterT wrote:
Yeah I have no sympathy for these xS and mKc 4v4 progamers either when they are farming easy wins all day with 3 premades in random 4s. 99% of their games end in < 10 minutes and they do literally the same thing almost every time (some variant of abusive coordinated attack that a team of randoms have no chance to stop). Its pretty funny when they are basically collecting free wins all day (while trash talking “legit” random 4s players and thinking they are good) and then complain about having a too high MMR.
Completely agree. Didn't know bragging about team games was cool. Guess I learned something out of this.
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This is how you could cheat your mmr high in WoW arena. Play with low rating alts 100% winrate. Leave team and team up with gladiator calibre players who did the same. 2800+ in 40 games.
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Don't know why to abuse 3x3, I've played like 150 games to get top1 masters (1300 pts) with absolutely terrible build-orders while I'm a shitty diamond Terran player with 100 awful APM.
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Well points do not have a direct relationship towards your MMR and your skill. I personally don't mind how many ladder points I get anymore. I have learned to love the game for the game itself, rather than how good I can possibly get at it
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I play mostly 4v4 RT in ladder (have been since the very first season), the vast majority of the time I fly solo. My win rate when going solo is probably about 55% at best. But I'll bet you that I had a hell of a lot more fun winning crazy/insane 4v4 games in a legit fashion than these other guys who literally won't even play 4's RT unless they are running with 2 others AND have to do some form of ling/ling/helion since they are afraid to play a straight up game even against 4 randoms (LOL). Like 75% of players in supson channel are like this, fucking pathetic.
It's lame that losers like PROTOTYPE can get high masters from doing basically nothing, but whatever, let him have his top 8 masters star. Your rank only has meaning if you know that you've earned it and didn't abuse to get it. The most important thing is that you actually have fun playing the games... I really don't see what's fun about winning with ling/ling/helion all day against 4 randoms. I don't need a 90% win rate too boost my ego, my 55% win rate playing straight up is good enough for me.
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I really smiled at the point: " You normally can't get from plat to masters in one season!" :D I have a friend who got from silver to masters in one season I helped him a little but still it is possible once you really understand how the game is going.
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PROTOTYPE didn't even get top 8.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vKtjOl.jpg)
Why is there someone that plays team games complaining about 1v1?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l6ZZjl.jpg)
Did anyone notice anything in the last two minutes of the video that PopTartSplash linked?
Check this out: http://www.twitch.tv/natmo0470/b/332079155?t=192m45s
Maphack downloaded. Two SC2 clients open. The one in the back leaves the game automatically.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5nhggl.jpg)
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On September 15 2012 03:23 rhs408 wrote:
I play mostly 4v4 RT in ladder (have been since the very first season), the vast majority of the time I fly solo. My win rate when going solo is probably about 55% at best. But I'll bet you that I had a hell of a lot more fun winning crazy/insane 4v4 games in a legit fashion than these other guys who literally won't even play 4's RT unless they are running with 2 others AND have to do some form of ling/ling/helion since they are afraid to play a straight up game even against 4 randoms (LOL). Like 75% of players in supson channel are like this, fucking pathetic.
It's lame that losers like PROTOTYPE can get high masters from doing basically nothing, but whatever, let him have his top 8 masters star. Your rank only has meaning if you know that you've earned it and didn't abuse to get it. The most important thing is that you actually have fun playing the games... I really don't see what's fun about winning with ling/ling/helion all day against 4 randoms. I don't need a 90% win rate too boost my ego, my 55% win rate playing straight up is good enough for me.
In case you missed it, the OP is one of “these other guys”. In fact, he is also queuing with low ranked smurf friends to get easier opponents (or according to him, lower the queue time). The funny thing to me is how he somehow thinks that he is better than this PROTOTYPE guy (hint: he is not), and that he is jealous about this guy having the star that only true 4v4 progamers like himself deserve.
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On September 12 2012 11:39 Prplppleatr wrote:
1. this won't happen with the new ladder system they implemented this season (rank is based on actual lvl in ur skill range, ie diamond, masters, w.e...rank 1 is top 1%)
All they did was remove the tiers in Diamond and below which won't change anything about this.
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EPT
