How to abuse seasons and ladders: (top 8 masters) - Page 2
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CCalms
United States341 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
In fact there are guys with 3k + And you did not awnser the question nr.1 Why would you do all this? | ||
PopTartSplash
United States12 Posts
A) Partial arrange team Queing in Random team ladders and getting ranked on random team ladder. You look at any random team ladder player that has a somewhat decent / good record at masters and you will always see them playing with the same people all the time +1 randomly given ally. All the best records is from pre-team abuse. Blizzard has stuff in to compensate for a full arrange team vs random team to even up the matchup, but with partial arrange team there is nothing in place. Random team ladder is basically a meaningless ladder right now and its better off being called an Arrange team ladder because thats what it is, if you want to get to the top of Random team ladder with a somewhat good record you gotta play with friends. Its pretty easy for 3 good players to accept 1 bad player in 4v4 rt or 3v3 rt and do strong cheeses to easily take out the 4 completely random team players. Abuse = abuse. Hate the fact random team ladder isnt a true random team ladder. It removes the whole point of playing random team ladder completely. If i wanted to play arrange team ladder i'd play arrange team ladder, you know with friends? Why must i be forced to play with friends to compete on random team ladder? LAWL stupid blizzard and their ideas.. B) outside of 2v2, the maps are really bad. They piegon hole you into certain builds all the time, really big ramps, separated bases.... All they do is promote heavy heavy cheese, Its a dual zerg 8-10 pool playground with ramps that big. Lets say for instance you play terran in 4v4 rt, how the fuck do you defend your allys on the other side of the map against dual 10 pools? . YOu can do a fast gas to reactor hellion, but if the 10 pools hit your side instead, your dead because you wont have it out in time. So really terran is forced into 2 rax marine everygame and pulling scvs. Most of the time your ally die and your just fighting a downhill battle from the get go. Bascially the balance is so bad its pointless to even play C) 1v1 is where its at , blizzard knows this and thats all they care about. This^ is perfect. That is 100 percent true. I myself am guilty of queuing with people. It's not truly random. Blizzard does know 1v1 is where its at. Thanks for this Johny123. To everyone: I am REALLY sorry about the queue mix-up. I KNEW I was doing something wrong. I think i have corrected all of them. Thanks for noticing. | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
I hadn't considered something so extreme (relatively) as waiting til the end of the season first though, haha. | ||
Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:49 Kashll wrote: You spent a long time researching things, preparing screenshots and writing. Yet you didn't look up the correct spelling of "queue". You could be saying brilliant things about starcraft, I don't know. Because i instantly started skimming your posts once you lost your credibility. Life is in the details man. Yeah, and you could have said something that added to the discussion instead you just criticized someones spelling on the internet. Not just any place on the internet, a place where a lot of non native English speakers come to discuss things. You should try being nice and considerate instead of a grumpy gramps. I'm not sure what you're trying to get out of your statement though. | ||
EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:54 CCalms wrote: I hereby nominate OP for the "most oblivious starcraft 2 player" award. I second this! Take it to a vote! edit: + Show Spoiler + no hard feelings OP, it was a well-constructed and informative post. and I'm glad for that. at the same time, lol who cares. ^^ | ||
SkullXbones
United States58 Posts
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
It used to be that even if you're top 8 in your division, it didn't actually mean that you were high masters or even "top" of the low master players because of all the different divisions. Now they have it that if you're say top 8 in your division, you're top 8% of whatever rank you are. I doubt he'll still be able to do this. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012 Ladder Tier Removal Currently not all divisions within a League are created equal. Individual divisions are actually assigned to different “tiers”, and players are assigned to tiers based on skill. This system hasn't been very transparent, making it difficult to determine your next promotion. For example, if you’re in a lower tiered Diamond division, just getting to Rank 1 doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll see a promotion soon. With the goal of increasing transparency for ladder players, we’re removing tiers from the ladder with the commencement of 2012 Season 4. The removal of tiers from all leagues will allow players to better gauge exactly where they’re at on the ladder and how far away they are from the next league. After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth. So he never actually made "top" of any league but only a useless division which in my eyes, is nothing to brag about. | ||
ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:49 Kashll wrote: You spent a long time researching things, preparing screenshots and writing. Yet you didn't look up the correct spelling of "queue". You could be saying brilliant things about starcraft, I don't know. Because i instantly started skimming your posts once you lost your credibility. Life is in the details man. You've instantly lost your credibility with this useless post correcting someones grammar and scolding/judging them for it. As for the exploit here, people seem to always be able to find a new way to cheat the system. If it really makes them feel better about themselves, then it's rather pathetic anyway. | ||
kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:09 MicroTastiC wrote: top 8,25,50 means something. top 8 indicates that you're at least half decent relative to your location in masters. people who are mediocre wouldn;t get there in a lifetime. Actually there are plenty of mediocre players in GM sooo... yeah. | ||
convention
United States622 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:48 johnny123 wrote: no, i disagee. Im glad people post stuff like this, a flawed ladder system is flawed, the more people that know about the abuse, the more inclined blizzard is to act. There is a whole bunch of different problems i have with team games as well. There are alot more abuses that just turn me off completely from the team games. A) Partial arrange team Queing in Random team ladders and getting ranked on random team ladder. You look at any random team ladder player that has a somewhat decent / good record at masters and you will always see them playing with the same people all the time +1 randomly given ally. All the best records is from pre-team abuse. Blizzard has stuff in to compensate for a full arrange team vs random team to even up the matchup, but with partial arrange team there is nothing in place. Random team ladder is basically a meaningless ladder right now and its better off being called an Arrange team ladder because thats what it is, if you want to get to the top of Random team ladder with a somewhat good record you gotta play with friends. Its pretty easy for 3 good players to accept 1 bad player in 4v4 rt or 3v3 rt and do strong cheeses to easily take out the 4 completely random team players. Abuse = abuse. Hate the fact random team ladder isnt a true random team ladder. It removes the whole point of playing random team ladder completely. If i wanted to play arrange team ladder i'd play arrange team ladder, you know with friends? Why must i be forced to play with friends to compete on random team ladder? LAWL stupid blizzard and their ideas.. B) outside of 2v2, the maps are really bad. They piegon hole you into certain builds all the time, really big ramps, separated bases.... All they do is promote heavy heavy cheese, Its a dual zerg 8-10 pool playground with ramps that big. Lets say for instance you play terran in 4v4 rt, how the fuck do you defend your allys on the other side of the map against dual 10 pools? . YOu can do a fast gas to reactor hellion, but if the 10 pools hit your side instead, your dead because you wont have it out in time. So really terran is forced into 2 rax marine everygame and pulling scvs. Most of the time your ally die and your just fighting a downhill battle from the get go. Bascially the balance is so bad its pointless to even play C) 1v1 is where its at , blizzard knows this and thats all they care about. Well said, except I disagree witht he "outside of 2v2 part." 2v2 Maps are really bad too ![]() | ||
rauk
United States2228 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:30 nakedsurfer wrote: They changed the ladder system this new season. It used to be that even if you're top 8 in your division, it didn't actually mean that you were high masters or even "top" of the low master players because of all the different divisions. Now they have it that if you're say top 8 in your division, you're top 8% of whatever rank you are. I doubt he'll still be able to do this. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012 So he never actually made "top" of any league but only a useless division which in my eyes, is nothing to brag about. that's not what it means it means that the invisible bonus points you got for being in a certain tier division dont' exist anymore, bronze-diamond work the same way as masters does now | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:30 nakedsurfer wrote: They changed the ladder system this new season. It used to be that even if you're top 8 in your division, it didn't actually mean that you were high masters or even "top" of the low master players because of all the different divisions. Now they have it that if you're say top 8 in your division, you're top 8% of whatever rank you are. I doubt he'll still be able to do this. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012 So he never actually made "top" of any league but only a useless division which in my eyes, is nothing to brag about. It did for masters. Only Bronze - Diamond had that shitty random ass tier system. Masters didn't have it - it was always percentile. | ||
wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On September 12 2012 14:56 wptlzkwjd wrote: This is a really good trick to get the achievements for top 8 masters 1v1 or team games. Well, at least we know blizz's policy of removing the losses and adding meaningless achivements to cater to the casuals worked. | ||
baldgye
United Kingdom1092 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:48 johnny123 wrote: no, i disagee. Im glad people post stuff like this, a flawed ladder system is flawed, the more people that know about the abuse, the more inclined blizzard is to act. There is a whole bunch of different problems i have with team games as well. There are alot more abuses that just turn me off completely from the team games. A) Partial arrange team Queing in Random team ladders and getting ranked on random team ladder. You look at any random team ladder player that has a somewhat decent / good record at masters and you will always see them playing with the same people all the time +1 randomly given ally. All the best records is from pre-team abuse. Blizzard has stuff in to compensate for a full arrange team vs random team to even up the matchup, but with partial arrange team there is nothing in place. Random team ladder is basically a meaningless ladder right now and its better off being called an Arrange team ladder because thats what it is, if you want to get to the top of Random team ladder with a somewhat good record you gotta play with friends. Its pretty easy for 3 good players to accept 1 bad player in 4v4 rt or 3v3 rt and do strong cheeses to easily take out the 4 completely random team players. Abuse = abuse. Hate the fact random team ladder isnt a true random team ladder. It removes the whole point of playing random team ladder completely. If i wanted to play arrange team ladder i'd play arrange team ladder, you know with friends? Why must i be forced to play with friends to compete on random team ladder? LAWL stupid blizzard and their ideas.. B) outside of 2v2, the maps are really bad. They piegon hole you into certain builds all the time, really big ramps, separated bases.... All they do is promote heavy heavy cheese, Its a dual zerg 8-10 pool playground with ramps that big. Lets say for instance you play terran in 4v4 rt, how the fuck do you defend your allys on the other side of the map against dual 10 pools? . YOu can do a fast gas to reactor hellion, but if the 10 pools hit your side instead, your dead because you wont have it out in time. So really terran is forced into 2 rax marine everygame and pulling scvs. Most of the time your ally die and your just fighting a downhill battle from the get go. Bascially the balance is so bad its pointless to even play C) 1v1 is where its at , blizzard knows this and thats all they care about. If blizz care about 1v1 why is the map pool total shit? With unbalanced map spawns and just generally bad Maps? | ||
Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
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PopTartSplash
United States12 Posts
On September 12 2012 14:56 wptlzkwjd wrote: This is a really good trick to get the achievements for top 8 masters 1v1 or team games. kind of... It's kind of like cheating IMO. To me it's like saying map-hacking is a good trick to be better at this game. Obviously it is NOT a good trick to be better, just an example. To me, if you have a top 8 masters achievement it should really mean something. Mean you know quite a bit about this game. With exploits like this its hard to know just how GOOD you really have to be to get these achievements. | ||
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