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JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
September 12 2012 21:15 GMT
#41
I wouldn't consider it a big issue, although since blizzard is actively "rewarding" people for reaching top 50/25/8 by making their league sign more prettu it kind of is an issue, that people can reach the most pristine league decals with so little effort. It can even happen unintentionally. If you're busy the first 2-3 weeks of a new season and don't do your placement matches you will generally end up in an easier division (average pointcount 100-300 lowered compared to divisions formed the first week after ladder reset). If people wanted to exploit this without not playing SC2, they could just focus on team league the first 2-3 weeks and do their solo games after this period to catch an easy division.

But as I said, it is only a minor issue and any serious SC2 player knows this and will use SC2ranks and equivalents so rate how well people are doing.
1338, one upping 1337
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
September 12 2012 22:08 GMT
#42
I am a terribly bad horrible aweful player, but I can get to mid-top masters because of my huge bonus pool bank. When I was rank 1 diamond I had 0 bonus pool. I won a few games and got promoted to master, and it just straight up gave me 300 bonus pool lol. I doubt it is a bug, but i feel like its a mistake on blizzards part to do that. It makes the ladder misleading because I belong on the bottom of masters, not the middle or top.

I've never been top 8 master in multiplayer, but I have been from rank 10-16 before, and the most ive waited was 2 minutes. But I can see your wait time is ridiculous. It sucks because you dont really want to play with or against bad players, so you dont want it to just give you people right away. However, there isnt much you can do about it. People are starting to drop out of this game for new ones that are coming out, and games like LoL and dota.

Plus, apparently (according to the popular belief) most players are of bronze-gold skill level, so you dont have a high population at your mmr.

As for getting top masters by playing at the end of the season: no one gives a shit. Ladder rank, league, points, all dont mean jack shit. They are simply there to make you feel good and keep you playing; eye candy. If being top8 master with 4 games played makes you feel good, then keep doing it, but it doesnt mean anything to anyone else, so it isnt a problem.
Zedromas
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada112 Posts
September 12 2012 22:20 GMT
#43
On September 12 2012 11:49 Kashll wrote:
You spent a long time researching things, preparing screenshots and writing. Yet you didn't look up the correct spelling of "queue". You could be saying brilliant things about starcraft, I don't know. Because i instantly started skimming your posts once you lost your credibility.

Life is in the details man.



You didnt capitalize one of your "i's." Man you must be really retarded..........
But she said she was 18!!!!
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#44
That's so awesome, because ranking in team games matter a lot, oh wait, they don't.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 12 2012 22:49 GMT
#45
I'm sorry m8 but this was probably the most pointless thread I have seen, and the explanations weren't very good either. Of course at the start of the season, when you get placed on a new division, it's easy to get top 8 (sometimes you will be placed straight into top 8 if the division is new enough!), but you go down eventually as the days and weeks pass!

So I didn't really understand what we must get from this thread, sorry! :/
The more I practice, the luckier I get!
uzushould
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 23:42:41
September 12 2012 23:39 GMT
#46
it takes me wonder how anyone could even waste time on thinking about how he can trick the system to get a better placment in his league....not even a better mmr or more points, just better place in a division.....who the fuck does even give a shit about this?

Well if your mentally disabled in some way this can maybe work out for you....i mean if you really feel better if your rank 1 in your division instead of rank X in any other division (while having the same skill, mmr and points), then this maybe is a great thing....but as i say this requires quite a bit of stupidity to trick yourself into this, (don t expect anyone other to be "tricked" by this, because everyone knows that only points and mmr matter and not rank). The point that this is about teamrankings makes it even worse....

and overall, I m not a friend of postings who describe how to trick a system or abuse something for your own benefit (well in this case there isnt even a benefit for your, but still you know what i mean)

i see how you think this system is unfair, and maybe your intention was not give a guide how other people can abuse this, but only to point out its a bad system....but the thread name says something different....and even if i repeat myself, it doesn t matter if this system if bad or good, because no one gives a shit
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 12 2012 23:57 GMT
#47
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
September 13 2012 00:02 GMT
#48
I still don't get what is the point to get into ""top 8"" of the league.
Chicken gank op
yurta
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada91 Posts
September 13 2012 00:39 GMT
#49
The only thing this thread made me think of was ladder abuse in 2v2 Warcraft III : Frozen Throne. Age old story with smurfing, only difference with sc2 compared to wc3 is you can make infinite accounts on WC for free. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, but honestly who cares about this at all, top 8 with 20 points is meaningless.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
September 13 2012 00:48 GMT
#50
Blizzard wants people to easily make it top the top of their divisions. That's why they created the divisions to begin with. It gives people a sense of accomplishment without them actually having to work hard for it. I hesitate to call this abuse.
pOnarreT
Profile Joined March 2012
155 Posts
September 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#51
On September 12 2012 11:49 Kashll wrote:
You spent a long time researching things, preparing screenshots and writing. Yet you didn't look up the correct spelling of "queue". You could be saying brilliant things about starcraft, I don't know. Because i instantly started skimming your posts once you lost your credibility.

Life is in the details man.

User was warned for this post


You didn't capitalized "i" and s and c in "starcraft". You've lost your credibility. Life is in details.
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
September 13 2012 01:06 GMT
#52
Divisions are bullshit.
I want a real ranking.
PopTartSplash
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
September 13 2012 01:10 GMT
#53
On September 13 2012 07:49 YouthSC wrote:
I'm sorry m8 but this was probably the most pointless thread I have seen, and the explanations weren't very good either. Of course at the start of the season, when you get placed on a new division, it's easy to get top 8 (sometimes you will be placed straight into top 8 if the division is new enough!), but you go down eventually as the days and weeks pass!

So I didn't really understand what we must get from this thread, sorry! :/


Sorry you didn't understand it. I made it as clear as possible, did you read the whole thing? You are right. When you get placed in a new division it IS easy to get top 8. The point is DAYS AND WEEKS do NOT pass by. Like I said in my post, when you place on the LAST DAY of the season, the league does not have enough time to get competitive. If you play just a couple games you can be top 8. Please re-read my post to make more sense of this.
Synk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States297 Posts
September 13 2012 01:13 GMT
#54
Ranking in team games is almost completely meaningless. The points system in team games ( especially 4v4) is a joke, its no secret. I have 3 friends who have all gotten to diamond or masters in 4v4 thanks to having me on their team(their all bronze or silver in 1v1, I'm high masters 1v1). One is my brother IRL who was in his very first season of sc2. It really irks me every time I see some guy in masters in team leagues masquerading around like he is a masters level player as well because almost anyone can get to masters in team games if you just keep queuing games.
Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
BabyfaceSC
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada1 Post
September 13 2012 01:39 GMT
#55
I think alot of people dont quite understand or just didnt read everything.

This PROTOTYPE noob is a perfect example of what you're talking about. he waited till the last day to place his 1v1 AND his 2v2 because he knows just how bad he really is. I know who PROTOTYPE is and I know for a fact that he maphacks and only plays games when some1 is smurfing on a bronze account for him.

Like going from low plat everything to rank 1 world masters in 3s is just not possible without texpoilting smurfing and maphacks.

Your solutions that you thought of for this issue on how blizzard can fix this, seem very viable. I agree with you completely. for those who thinkthis is actually think this is a 'how to guide". It's not, Poptartsplash is bringing this issue into the light because it is bogus and too easy to do. I've seen many lower than master skill level players reach top masters by doing this.

I'll admit ive used a smurf aswell, not to make my opponents easier but to lower the queue time because I aswell have very high MMR and cant stand to wait 10+ minutes for a game i only get 5 points for.

The 1v1 part of this thread that was mentioned about getting top 8 in your division with ease by waiting till the last day of the season to do your 1 placement match. Really just proves to every1 that you were leveled once and do this just to look good on ur career summary every season.

And, if PROTOTYPE reads this i hope he gets smart, stops maphacking and goes back to plat to learn how to actually play instead of being a total fake, cheating and exploiting the game's flaws.

I agree with Poptartflash if you didnt get that by now.
Sweet as custard, always cuts the mustard.
itiswhatitis
Profile Joined February 2011
United States136 Posts
September 13 2012 01:52 GMT
#56
It never ceases to amaze me how pointlessly douchey people can be just over a simple post. The guy pointed out a flaw in the system, that's it. If you don't think it's important, go on to the next thread. There is really no need to insult the guy and generally be an asshat.
"The bad artists imitate. The great artists steal." -itiswhatitis
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 02:24:55
September 13 2012 02:24 GMT
#57
On September 13 2012 10:06 DrGreen wrote:
Divisions are bullshit.
I want a real ranking.

Agreed. It was a bit interesting due to it's complexity at first but I wish they would please drop this Division stuff. I would really like the "behind-the-scenes" MMR to be displayed in some fashion and a percentile/total/tier ranking.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 02:58:19
September 13 2012 02:55 GMT
#58
On September 13 2012 10:39 BabyfaceSC wrote:
I think alot of people dont quite understand or just didnt read everything.

This PROTOTYPE noob is a perfect example of what you're talking about. he waited till the last day to place his 1v1 AND his 2v2 because he knows just how bad he really is. I know who PROTOTYPE is and I know for a fact that he maphacks and only plays games when some1 is smurfing on a bronze account for him.

Like going from low plat everything to rank 1 world masters in 3s is just not possible without texpoilting smurfing and maphacks.


Actually it's very possible to up from plat to master in one or two season. It's not because you can't do it then other ppl can't do it either.

One of my teammate did Bronze => Plat => Master in 2 seasons and I personnally up from plat to master in one, with like 500 games. And I promise you I don't cheat, I justed trained well with good players.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
September 13 2012 03:08 GMT
#59
Lol... why do you even care if someone abuses the system to be top 8 masters, does it really mean anything? If someone is that dumb to waste an account just for bragging (just like all the idiots that pay pro's to level their account), you should just really not give a crap, really it doesn't matter.

About long waiting time I agree, that is a problem and should be fixed, I think it also occurred with pro's, having too high MMR to be able to play on ladder at all, you should write it on Blizzard's forums so they will know about your solution. (I like btw, nice thinking )
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
September 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#60
You will still be able to do this, since the idea of this is more so that the division itself doesn't fill up completely.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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