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Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
September 21 2012 14:06 GMT
#241
I don't understand this panel, it's all fluff, and it is set up to be. There is basically only one side represented, the developer side, and there will never come any interesting discussions out of it. Don't get me wrong, I never expected them to actually come to any conclusions, but no one there will voice any differing opinions. It is just Redeye asking "How great is your company at promoting esports?". Even the subject sounds more like a presentation than a question to discuss.

I would have liked to see maybe a representantive or two from the player/team side who is actually involved in some of the games these guys represent, and even someone from the outside, perhaps someone who is more into business. There just aren't any tensions between these guys, no one who comes even with a slightly uncomfortable reply.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 21 2012 14:06 GMT
#242
On September 21 2012 23:03 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:59 Grettin wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:58 Musicus wrote:
Did they talk about f2p/very cheap against full prize yet? Wheter Dustin thinks sc2 can grow their fanbase without making it free?


They did ask Carmac's "question" about Free multiplayer for SC2 in the future.

ELA wrote this few pages back. Don't know if it was word to word, i missed most of the question.


RedeYe to Dustin Browder: "Why not just make Starcraft 2 multiplayer, free to play?"

Dustin Browder: "Well, we could do that, but then we could end up in a situation where I end up in a game against you, and I have more units than you do because I bought the game"


Thanks a lot. They could sell tons of stuff that doesn't affect the balance... skins, portraits or single player bonus missions for example. I hope they make it free some time, I wouldn't mind that I had to pay for it, more people playing the game is what sc needs imo.


I would watch the VOD, he did say more than just that.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 14:06 GMT
#243
Stream offline for me - Anyone else?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
September 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#244
Stream dead
#1 Terran hater
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
September 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#245
On September 21 2012 22:49 antilyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:42 Legace wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:34 Boonbag wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:33 Asha` wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:32 Boonbag wrote:
dustin bowder is pretty bad

as usual


why?

most of his points have been good and he manages to be concise when he makes them which keeps discussion flowing.


but his points get nowhere
hes just having his speech
marketing talk is void

edit: they should've invited the guy blogging about coding sc1



Why would they invite a code monkey to discuss e-Sports? That's like inviting a zamboni driver to the CBA negotiations.

Boonbag miscalculated his words.
The "guy blogging about coding sc1" is essentially the main game designer of SC1 and the equivalent of David Kim/Dustin Browder for SCII


Just to be clear, we're talking about Patrick Wyatt, formerly Vice President of Research and Development and a senior programmer at Blizzard, right?

So, "essentially" Patrick Wyatt was not a game designer, but hey, making shit up to prove a point is fun, right?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 14:07:40
September 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#246
Is it down or is it my own connection?

edit: I guess it's all of us.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#247
On September 21 2012 23:06 Appendix wrote:
I don't understand this panel, it's all fluff, and it is set up to be. There is basically only one side represented, the developer side, and there will never come any interesting discussions out of it. Don't get me wrong, I never expected them to actually come to any conclusions, but no one there will voice any differing opinions. It is just Redeye asking "How great is your company at promoting esports?". Even the subject sounds more like a presentation than a question to discuss.

I would have liked to see maybe a representantive or two from the player/team side who is actually involved in some of the games these guys represent, and even someone from the outside, perhaps someone who is more into business. There just aren't any tensions between these guys, no one who comes even with a slightly uncomfortable reply.


Lol everyone looks uncomfortable except for our man Browder.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 21 2012 14:07 GMT
#248
Next panel topic: "How important is a reliable stream for an eSports event?"
Such flammable little insects!
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
September 21 2012 14:08 GMT
#249
It's so awesome that the stream is dead and the offline screen says powered by Twitch
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 21 2012 14:10 GMT
#250
On September 21 2012 23:06 Appendix wrote:
I don't understand this panel, it's all fluff, and it is set up to be. There is basically only one side represented, the developer side, and there will never come any interesting discussions out of it. Don't get me wrong, I never expected them to actually come to any conclusions, but no one there will voice any differing opinions. It is just Redeye asking "How great is your company at promoting esports?". Even the subject sounds more like a presentation than a question to discuss.

I would have liked to see maybe a representantive or two from the player/team side who is actually involved in some of the games these guys represent, and even someone from the outside, perhaps someone who is more into business. There just aren't any tensions between these guys, no one who comes even with a slightly uncomfortable reply.

Get IdrA up there with a tire iron. That'll liven things up.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#251
On September 21 2012 23:07 Rannasha wrote:
Next panel topic: "How important is a reliable stream for an eSports event?"


I hear this. stream quality and stability is a big thing for developing esports. not to mention a funny jab at this one.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#252
On September 21 2012 23:04 adiga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:59 Grettin wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:58 Musicus wrote:
Did they talk about f2p/very cheap against full prize yet? Wheter Dustin thinks sc2 can grow their fanbase without making it free?


They did ask Carmac's "question" about Free multiplayer for SC2 in the future.

ELA wrote this few pages back. Don't know if it was word to word, i missed most of the question.


RedeYe to Dustin Browder: "Why not just make Starcraft 2 multiplayer, free to play?"

Dustin Browder: "Well, we could do that, but then we could end up in a situation where I end up in a game against you, and I have more units than you do because I bought the game"


So basicly they are have trouble finding a way to make money from, SC2 can't offer what the other games have like items, gear, better exp etc. So I beleive SC2 won't be free in the near future unless they find something they can make money from.


We still don't have capes for banelings. There is still money to be made!
Yeah
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#253
On September 21 2012 23:07 Rannasha wrote:
Next panel topic: "How important is a reliable stream for an eSports event?"


"powered by twitch"

/cringe
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#254
On September 21 2012 23:06 Appendix wrote:
I don't understand this panel, it's all fluff, and it is set up to be. There is basically only one side represented, the developer side, and there will never come any interesting discussions out of it. Don't get me wrong, I never expected them to actually come to any conclusions, but no one there will voice any differing opinions. It is just Redeye asking "How great is your company at promoting esports?". Even the subject sounds more like a presentation than a question to discuss.

I would have liked to see maybe a representantive or two from the player/team side who is actually involved in some of the games these guys represent, and even someone from the outside, perhaps someone who is more into business. There just aren't any tensions between these guys, no one who comes even with a slightly uncomfortable reply.


Have to agree.

What they really need is to get Blizzard to sit down with the team owners, organizers and associations to unify everything.

This is just panels for every competitive game on the market.

Very similar to the other panels we've seen before.

It's nice to have different folks meet together, but this isn't the Summit I was asking for.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#255
I feel the topic for his panel was never going to be much more than a lot of fluff, still fun but it would have been awesome to have Riot/Valve there as well.

Ubisoft guy seems really switched on tho, might check out his game sometime.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
September 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#256
You can watch the stream without lag and sound problem at dreamhack.

http://www.dreamhack.tv/?v=129
-,-
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 21 2012 14:12 GMT
#257
Simon Bennett makes me more interested in checking out World of Tanks than any promo material I've actually seen.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 14:13 GMT
#258
Is there a place for casual games in esports...


No.
MMA: The true King of Wings
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
September 21 2012 14:14 GMT
#259
some of these questions are pointless --
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 21 2012 14:14 GMT
#260
Absolutely unwatcheable on this stream
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