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Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
September 21 2012 14:14 GMT
#261
I like how no one is defending casual gaming xD
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 14:15 GMT
#262
On September 21 2012 23:14 tyner wrote:
some of these questions are pointless --


They're taking community Q's. Tweet him better ones.
MMA: The true King of Wings
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
September 21 2012 14:15 GMT
#263
On September 21 2012 23:14 dizzy101 wrote:
Absolutely unwatcheable on this stream



http://www.dreamhack.tv/?v=129
-,-
LakseWim
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands202 Posts
September 21 2012 14:15 GMT
#264
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion
NaNiwa | HerO | MC | Rain | PartinG | sOs
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
September 21 2012 14:15 GMT
#265
On September 21 2012 23:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is there a place for casual games in esports...


No.

More interestingly, would the guy who plays most casually be the winner of such a tournament?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
September 21 2012 14:16 GMT
#266
On September 21 2012 23:15 SayTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 23:14 dizzy101 wrote:
Absolutely unwatcheable on this stream



http://www.dreamhack.tv/?v=129


Dont understand why it would be any different. Its the same stream?

Mine is working fine on 720p. No lag. Volume is bit low but i can hear well enough.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 14:16 GMT
#267
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Teamliquid wasn't invited, according to Kennigit twitter.
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 21 2012 14:17 GMT
#268
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Because he properly declined to come. I've shamefully taken this from reddit on a question on why Riot and Valve isn't there, but I applies to why a person like Nazgul is not there:


This is a first time thing, and since we're doing this more out of passion of eSports and not because we have another million dollar to spend, we have to limit the number of participants. Alot of important people is missing. This is the first round of people we present and additional people will follow. It's also a open Congress where everyone can take part, you, Valve and RIOT. We will not disclose what companies or organisation we have invited directly. We just hope that this is the start of something that will bring people together and make eSports bigger in the long run.
Yeah
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 21 2012 14:18 GMT
#269
Have they said anything important yet? This seems no different than a Dustin Browder interview with 4 other idiots occasionally talking about irrelevant stuff
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#270
On September 21 2012 23:18 floor exercise wrote:
Have they said anything important yet? This seems no different than a Dustin Browder interview with 4 other idiots occasionally talking about irrelevant stuff


HL3 was confirmed.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#271
On September 21 2012 23:18 floor exercise wrote:
Have they said anything important yet? This seems no different than a Dustin Browder interview with 4 other idiots occasionally talking about irrelevant stuff


Ubisoft guy said some pretty good things!
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#272
On September 21 2012 23:16 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Teamliquid wasn't invited, according to Kennigit twitter.


Well if not, then they properly wasn't invited because they are not multi-game oriented. Could see an argument for not taking organisations which aren't more multi-game. Lots of LoL teams aren't represented too if you want to discuss big eSports organisations...
Yeah
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
September 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#273
On September 21 2012 23:16 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Teamliquid wasn't invited, according to Kennigit twitter.


In other words, they failed to send in an "application" to participate. I guess you could skew that into "not invited".
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 14:20 GMT
#274
On September 21 2012 23:19 windzor wrote:
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On September 21 2012 23:16 ELA wrote:
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Teamliquid wasn't invited, according to Kennigit twitter.


Well if not, then they properly wasn't invited because they are not multi-game oriented. Could see an argument for not taking organisations which aren't more multi-game. Lots of LoL teams aren't represented too if you want to discuss big eSports organisations...


I agree with you completely.
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
September 21 2012 14:20 GMT
#275
On September 21 2012 23:19 windzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 23:16 ELA wrote:
On September 21 2012 23:15 LakseWim wrote:
Why isn't Nazgul there? you'd say the founder and owner of both of Team Liquid and teamliquid.net is pretty infuential. Furthermore he seems like someone that could definately contribute to the discussion


Teamliquid wasn't invited, according to Kennigit twitter.


Well if not, then they properly wasn't invited because they are not multi-game oriented. Could see an argument for not taking organisations which aren't more multi-game. Lots of LoL teams aren't represented too if you want to discuss big eSports organisations...


there is official coverage for 3 titles, and decent user coverage for like 5-6 others? thats more variation than the whole panel combined.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 21 2012 14:21 GMT
#276
On September 21 2012 23:04 adiga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:59 Grettin wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:58 Musicus wrote:
Did they talk about f2p/very cheap against full prize yet? Wheter Dustin thinks sc2 can grow their fanbase without making it free?


They did ask Carmac's "question" about Free multiplayer for SC2 in the future.

ELA wrote this few pages back. Don't know if it was word to word, i missed most of the question.


RedeYe to Dustin Browder: "Why not just make Starcraft 2 multiplayer, free to play?"

Dustin Browder: "Well, we could do that, but then we could end up in a situation where I end up in a game against you, and I have more units than you do because I bought the game"


So basicly they are have trouble finding a way to make money from, SC2 can't offer what the other games have like items, gear, better exp etc. So I beleive SC2 won't be free in the near future unless they find something they can make money from.


I don't know how realistic it would be, but can't Blizzard find a better way to monetize the tournament scene (charge higher fee for license/concentrate on merchandising).

Granted the last WCG EU generated great viewership, but how long can SC2 sustain a high viewership to small playerbase ratio? I feel that not adapting to the F2P market is going to hit Blizzard really hard soon. Unless HOTS somehow recaptures the magic/luck of BW's gameplay and balance, SC2 needs to expand the scene. Going F2P will bring in China and we all saw what they did in terms of viewership with TI2 and several years of WC3.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 21 2012 14:21 GMT
#277
Next up @VLCeSportsCon: 17:00 - Kevin Lin (Twitch) Joakim Sandberg (SVT) Simon Whitcombe (CBSi) Mark Reed (Heaven Media) Stuart Saw (Own3D)

SVT is Swedish Television
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
September 21 2012 14:22 GMT
#278
On September 21 2012 23:21 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 23:04 adiga wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:59 Grettin wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:58 Musicus wrote:
Did they talk about f2p/very cheap against full prize yet? Wheter Dustin thinks sc2 can grow their fanbase without making it free?


They did ask Carmac's "question" about Free multiplayer for SC2 in the future.

ELA wrote this few pages back. Don't know if it was word to word, i missed most of the question.


RedeYe to Dustin Browder: "Why not just make Starcraft 2 multiplayer, free to play?"

Dustin Browder: "Well, we could do that, but then we could end up in a situation where I end up in a game against you, and I have more units than you do because I bought the game"


So basicly they are have trouble finding a way to make money from, SC2 can't offer what the other games have like items, gear, better exp etc. So I beleive SC2 won't be free in the near future unless they find something they can make money from.


I don't know how realistic it would be, but can't Blizzard find a better way to monetize the tournament scene (charge higher fee for license/concentrate on merchandising).

Granted the last WCG EU generated great viewership, but how long can SC2 sustain a high viewership to small playerbase ratio? I feel that not adapting to the F2P market is going to hit Blizzard really hard soon. Unless HOTS somehow recaptures the magic/luck of BW's gameplay and balance, SC2 needs to expand the scene. Going F2P will bring in China and we all saw what they did in terms of viewership with TI2 and several years of WC3.


how many people that watch nfl, nba, mlb etc actively play?
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 21 2012 14:22 GMT
#279
Has DB mentioned anything about Blizzard DOTA or has that been quietly swept under the rug?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 14:23:08
September 21 2012 14:22 GMT
#280
Good question, even though it should be obvious that it is a good idea.

On September 21 2012 23:22 floor exercise wrote:
Has DB mentioned anything about Blizzard DOTA or has that been quietly swept under the rug?


Not if i recall, at least on this panel.
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