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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
September 21 2012 13:17 GMT
#201
On September 21 2012 22:17 Highways wrote:
Who is the guy next to Dustin Browder?


Alex Kokhanovsky from Na'Vi
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 13:18 GMT
#202
On September 21 2012 22:17 Highways wrote:
Who is the guy next to Dustin Browder?


On September 21 2012 22:06 Asha` wrote:
We're live again!

Game Developers and esports, how have they embraced the concept and changed their games accordingly.

From left to right on this panel:

Kristen Reilly - Meteor/Hawken
Florent Castelnerac - Ubisoft/Nadeo
Simon Bennett - Wargaming
Alex Kokhanovsky - Na'Vi
Dustin Browder - Blizzard



Jeebus, people. Read the thread please
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 13:23:35
September 21 2012 13:18 GMT
#203
On September 21 2012 22:17 Highways wrote:
Who is the guy next to Dustin Browder?

Guy from Na'Vi don't know his name. He has a cool accent.
Edit: the ubisoft guy also falls into the cool accent category.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 13:31:39
September 21 2012 13:27 GMT
#204
Yes Simon Bennett, you get my vote!

Genres will be the long lasting divisions of esports competition, even if the games within them shuffle regularly.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 21 2012 13:29 GMT
#205
Tears in my eyes, this guy is so right. The death of 1.6 is the saddest thing to have happened to eSports.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 21 2012 13:32 GMT
#206
dustin bowder is pretty bad

as usual
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
September 21 2012 13:33 GMT
#207
paraphasing 'BW is a very successful esport, even to this day, and i hope its successful for years to come'

except blizzard has made active efforts to switch people from BW to SC2 so they can make some money off it, due to sales and more control of the IP. no one gonna challenge the speakers on stuff like this?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 13:34:07
September 21 2012 13:33 GMT
#208
On September 21 2012 22:32 Boonbag wrote:
dustin bowder is pretty bad

as usual


why?

most of his points have been good and he manages to be concise when he makes them which keeps discussion flowing.

I'm glad to hear him talking about how clear and watchable gaming is more important for esports than flashy OTT graphics.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 13:35:14
September 21 2012 13:34 GMT
#209
On September 21 2012 22:33 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:32 Boonbag wrote:
dustin bowder is pretty bad

as usual


why?

most of his points have been good and he manages to be concise when he makes them which keeps discussion flowing.


but his points get nowhere
hes just having his speech
marketing talk is void

edit: they should've invited the guy blogging about coding sc1
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
September 21 2012 13:35 GMT
#210
That Na'Vi guy comes off as really really clueless :\
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 21 2012 13:37 GMT
#211
On September 21 2012 22:33 turdburgler wrote:
paraphasing 'BW is a very successful esport, even to this day, and i hope its successful for years to come'

except blizzard has made active efforts to switch people from BW to SC2 so they can make some money off it, due to sales and more control of the IP. no one gonna challenge the speakers on stuff like this?


The people designing the game (Browder) and the people marketing it / trying to make money out of it (upper management usually) aren't the same and they don't have the same priorities. I'm glad that the panel-debate didn't boil down to the "OMG y u kill BW OSL?" level, because this is nothing that Browder himself did or has anything to say about. He just decides which type of destructible rock is the best to add for playability.
Such flammable little insects!
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 13:37 GMT
#212
Browder looks the most comfortable.
MMA: The true King of Wings
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
September 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#213
On September 21 2012 22:37 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:33 turdburgler wrote:
paraphasing 'BW is a very successful esport, even to this day, and i hope its successful for years to come'

except blizzard has made active efforts to switch people from BW to SC2 so they can make some money off it, due to sales and more control of the IP. no one gonna challenge the speakers on stuff like this?


The people designing the game (Browder) and the people marketing it / trying to make money out of it (upper management usually) aren't the same and they don't have the same priorities. I'm glad that the panel-debate didn't boil down to the "OMG y u kill BW OSL?" level, because this is nothing that Browder himself did or has anything to say about. He just decides which type of destructible rock is the best to add for playability.


if hes going to represent his company then he needs to be prepared to answer questions on every topic without reverting to marketing drivel. i couldnt care less about watching a 90 minute infomercial on esports. i had hoped that they would be prepared to actually debate their decisions and choices rather than advertise their games.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
September 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#214
Will there be VODs?
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#215
Browder really knows how to talk lol.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
September 21 2012 13:40 GMT
#216
On September 21 2012 22:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Browder really knows how to talk lol.


As he should.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
September 21 2012 13:42 GMT
#217
On September 21 2012 22:34 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 22:33 Asha` wrote:
On September 21 2012 22:32 Boonbag wrote:
dustin bowder is pretty bad

as usual


why?

most of his points have been good and he manages to be concise when he makes them which keeps discussion flowing.


but his points get nowhere
hes just having his speech
marketing talk is void

edit: they should've invited the guy blogging about coding sc1



Why would they invite a code monkey to discuss e-Sports? That's like inviting a zamboni driver to the CBA negotiations.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6113 Posts
September 21 2012 13:43 GMT
#218
Dustin Browder: 'In Broodwar the community made maps to balance the game without patches"
RedeYe: "So what you are saying is that SC2 needs anti zerg maps"
#1 Terran hater
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 13:44 GMT
#219
On September 21 2012 22:43 Highways wrote:
Dustin Browder: 'In Broodwar the community made maps to balance the game without patches"
RedeYe: "So what you are saying is that SC2 needs anti zerg maps"


Redeye knows whats up
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 21 2012 13:44 GMT
#220
On September 21 2012 22:43 Highways wrote:
Dustin Browder: 'In Broodwar the community made maps to balance the game without patches"
RedeYe: "So what you are saying is that SC2 needs anti zerg maps"

Well Antiga is like the most balanced map atm sooooo
Romanes eunt domus
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