EPTDH Valencia with eSports Congress - Page 9
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TheSir
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:32 Anomek wrote: What's happening..., what's happening... ?  What Raleigh-incidident with Odee? How could I miss any drama?! And thanks to everyone LRing event  Dignitas Now discussing sponsors and the need to find sponsors out of the hardware/gaming peripheral branches. Telia, which is a large ISP in scandinavia and has alot of different branches into different products not broadband related, thinks that the demographic that e-sport attracts, is very relevant to almost all kinds of companies. From this point, it's just a matter of educating these companies in Esports and convince them that it's a legit thing. EDIT: Not Dota 2-team, but League of Legends, thank you Asha' | ||
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tyner
176 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:38 Asha` wrote: from left to right: Sam Matthews - Fnatic Goran Hellgren - Telia Sonera Christopher Mitchell - Razer Matthieu Dallon - ESWC Michael O'dell - Dignitas ah thank you very much interesting talk | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:39 ELA wrote: Dignitas Dota2 team was involved in coluding in the finals match along with the team Curse and was as consequence, disquallified and the prizemoney of the Dota2 finals was distributed to 3-5th place. Now discussing sponsors and the need to find sponsors out of the hardware/gaming peripheral branches. Telia, which is a large ISP in scandinavia and has alot of different branches into different products not broadband related, thinks that the demographic that e-sport attracts, is very relevant to almost all kinds of companies. From this point, it's just a matter of educating these companies in Esports and convince them that it's a legit thing. Woah Woah it was LOL not glorious Dota2!!! | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
The circle is complete | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
Believe it or not, you need iron fist authority like Kespa in order to have a long term and professional scene. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
Oh boy... | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
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Graviton
Australia146 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:52 ELA wrote: Odee mentioning that TeamDignitas has a total of $ 25,000 outstanding prizemoney from tournaments. I think it was 25,000 pounds. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
EDIT: RedeYe now taking twitter question with #VEC - First mentioned, compliments the fact that Odee is dressed like a Snooker-player (lol) | ||
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TheSir
1830 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:51 Laryleprakon wrote: I really dislike teams taking some prize money from teams, salaries should be based on the ROI from sponsors imo. Well thats how it works in all team sports. You think the players from Barca get the prize money for winning the Champions league? Nope they get a salary plus bonuses, just like in any team sport. Nothing wrong with the teams getting a large percentage of prize money. For example most of them pay more salary then they will get back in prize money. | ||
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Raskit
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
Also Redeye is a boss, fantastic job as usual. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:59 TheSir wrote: Well thats how it works in all team sports. You think the players from Barca get the prize money for winning the Champions league? Nope they get a salary plus bonuses, just like in any team sport. Nothing wrong with the teams getting a large percentage of prize money. For example most of them pay more salary then they will get back in prize money. Maybe if you have a lot of incentives in your contracts for winning but EG has stated they don't take any prize money from players and they also pay the highest salaries, maybe they are insanely lucky or are just better than everyone else. I think both ways are fine I just dislike taking prize money and relying more on teams finding sponsors. | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
B) Better questions C) Host: He's not very good at getting answers out of panelists, maybe phrase question better? Or think of ways to get some of the quieter panelists to talk? :D D) Prepared script for both panelist and hosts - this could include pre-determined questions (Not sure, maybe they already had a script) E) More interaction between the panelists themselves. F) Longer event, these people flew out all the way there to get only 1 panel? Should have at least 2 sessions for each and mix it up! :D (Maybe im greedy and just want more panels.) Of course this was already a great event, first of its kind, it will only get better. Thanks for the efforts in making this event possible. | ||
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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:59 TheSir wrote: Well thats how it works in all team sports. You think the players from Barca get the prize money for winning the Champions league? Nope they get a salary plus bonuses, just like in any team sport. Nothing wrong with the teams getting a large percentage of prize money. For example most of them pay more salary then they will get back in prize money. The problem is not teams taking the prize money, but how much they take in correlation to how much they give. If a player is given $1000/month but believes he can make more than $12 000 in a year from prize money then it's certainly not a fair deal. And this is the most common concern among players and why they don't want teams to take the prize money. Then there is also how much a player feels he is contributing and how much effort he put into winning that money. Playing and representing the team full time is doing a lot for just $1000/month and the prize money is often seen as a bonus or as a reward. When teams are able to give out proper salaries then we will be able to have a proper discussion regarding how much prize money should be given etc. However, I also like the idea of tournaments spending more of the prize money on travel costs as it will help teams pay more salaries. It's the same thing as teams taking % of the prize money, but in a more fair way and it is easier for players to control where the money ends up. It sure is a tricky situation, but as esport grows things will get better and give better conditions to all parts involved. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On September 21 2012 20:08 kellymilkies wrote: A) Wish there was more audience watching these panels - these are amazing! B) Better questions C) Host: He's not very good at getting answers out of panelists, maybe phrase question better? Or think of ways to get some of the quieter panelists to talk? :D D) Prepared script for both panelist and hosts - this could include pre-determined questions (Not sure, maybe they already had a script) E) More interaction between the panelists themselves. F) Longer event, these people flew out all the way there to get only 1 panel? Should have at least 2 sessions for each and mix it up! :D (Maybe im greedy and just want more panels.) Of course this was already a great event, first of its kind, it will only get better. Thanks for the efforts in making this event possible. I agree. It's a great event so far and I'm excited to see the third panel. I think point C has a lot to do with technical issues (and some language barriers - hosts always seem to have issues with language barriers). I do think RedEye is doing a good job overall. | ||
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