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windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 21 2012 09:56 GMT
#141
On September 21 2012 18:49 eericson000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 18:40 windzor wrote:
On September 21 2012 18:38 Gamegene wrote:
On September 21 2012 18:36 windzor wrote:
On September 21 2012 18:16 Gamegene wrote:
lol alex garfield is relatively overdressed, but tries to tone it down with his shoes zzz.

this is stimulating but i'm slightly dissapointed to hear them talk about developers and not have Dustin Browder in to give him 2 cents.


What could Dustin really say? He is in no position to make any calls on such an organisation. Hell if it happened he properly wouldn't even know it before it happened.


Eh, I'd just like some sort of Blizzard/publisher representation


This true, there should be a publisher on it. But if they should be represented on the panel, they should also be in a position where they can say things and not just say nice words. Which I think many publishers would mostly do because they haven't really thought about such a scenario.


Dustin will be on the panel, 3rd panel topic, "Game developers and esports, how they have embraced the concept and changed their games accordingigly.

Please check the website that is listed on page 1 of this thread for the schedule and topics covered. Because some of people only appear on certain panel topics.



Yes he is on a panel where he makes sense. There he has the position to say: "We thought about eSports so we built in an awesome spectator mode". Something where eSports might have changed their priority on features, and as the game designer he was the one making the calls based on what the Blizzard execs wanted.

But this is not what I am discussing with the government body. So please read the whole discussion.

A Rob Simpson would properly be okay. Atleast he is in a position where they know something about the stance on esports from the company and hopefully is in a position where they can give ideas to the execs about non-in-game development of eSports.
Yeah
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 10:02:03
September 21 2012 09:59 GMT
#142
I think the Korean guy touched on something interesting when discussing the international olympic commity. In my naive, humble opinion, they seem to be looking in the wrong direction when looking for something to model a federation/governing body over. FIFA, NFL, etc are all centred around a single sport. It's near impossible to emulate such a structure for esports as there are numerous titles with unique requirements. I think the governing body would have to be centred around the same kind of model as the IOC, with individual commities for each game, applying to be a sub-element of the main commity. The game would have to adear to the main commities standards and rules (although tailored to the specific game), to be accepted and it would be the job of the main commity to give reason to the game publisher to become a sub-element of the commity. There is just too much variety for there to be a single governing body like a FIFA. I have no idea how tournaments and leagues would fit into such a commity though.

That's my uninformed opinion, just from watching that panel though. It's an incredibly hard question, as shown in the panel, as they made very little progress. I think Alex Garfield made the best comments though, in trying to just establish something, however small it is.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
September 21 2012 09:59 GMT
#143
Is it over?
asdfg
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 21 2012 10:00 GMT
#144
On September 21 2012 18:59 Veclada wrote:
Is it over?


No a lot more panels, should be starting again within 5 mins.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 21 2012 10:04 GMT
#145
can't find a resolution that doesn't lag
Henx
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
September 21 2012 10:07 GMT
#146
On September 21 2012 18:39 JunkkaGom wrote:
can anyone summarize what happened and what each person think?


There was also some debate over the best possible structure for an organisation based on pre-existing sports in the west. There was a comparison between American style franchises, state funding, European football and the tennis/golf model.

I honestly think the tennis/golf model is what we should be moving towards with around 4 major events each year that are considered much more important than the rest. The events themselves would be organised by their own organisations so we'd have one MLG, one Dreamhack, the Blizzard WCS and say the NASL or IPL. Other large events would of course be there but the number of top tier events per year needs to remain low in order to not ti diminish their individual importance.
I believe in e-sports
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 10:17 GMT
#147
Sponsors and teams commenting on the success vs. marketability in players now
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 21 2012 10:18 GMT
#148
This group seems a little more open. Running a lot smoother than the last one
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 10:20 GMT
#149
And how did that go for you at Raleigh, Odee?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 21 2012 10:23 GMT
#150
Hehe, RedeYe really throwing Odee under the bus with the Raleigh-incident - He handled it smoothly though
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Dobrev
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria30 Posts
September 21 2012 10:28 GMT
#151
Dignitas: BBC to follow JonnyREcco in WCS.

But he's not qualifed?
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
September 21 2012 10:29 GMT
#152
On September 21 2012 19:28 Dobrev wrote:
Dignitas: BBC to follow JonnyREcco in WCS.

But he's not qualifed?


WCG
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 21 2012 10:30 GMT
#153
On September 21 2012 19:28 Dobrev wrote:
Dignitas: BBC to follow JonnyREcco in WCS.

But he's not qualifed?


He did qualify for WCS europe. But properly hoped he would go further but atleast they have WCS europe...
Yeah
Anomek
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland152 Posts
September 21 2012 10:32 GMT
#154
What's happening..., what's happening... ?

What Raleigh-incidident with Odee? How could I miss any drama?!

And thanks to everyone LRing event
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 21 2012 10:34 GMT
#155
Fantic calling themselves as good as everyone else at marketing there brand?!?!?!?!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 21 2012 10:34 GMT
#156
On September 21 2012 19:32 Anomek wrote:
What's happening..., what's happening... ?

What Raleigh-incidident with Odee? How could I miss any drama?!

And thanks to everyone LRing event

The "match fixing" scandal between the 1st/2nd place teams where they got their prize money and points revoked.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
September 21 2012 10:34 GMT
#157
the 1 to 10 question is so bad. yet he's pushing it to the panel to answer it.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
September 21 2012 10:35 GMT
#158
ugh the sound quality is terrible. clipping all over the place.
anyone know who's who? the big guy is odee right?
Pugget
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
September 21 2012 10:35 GMT
#159
On September 21 2012 18:39 JunkkaGom wrote:
can anyone summarize what happened and what each person think?


There shall be VODs on Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/valenciaesportscongress The first two hours are already up.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#160
On September 21 2012 19:35 tyner wrote:
ugh the sound quality is terrible. clipping all over the place.
anyone know who's who? the big guy is odee right?


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