EPTSituation Report: August 31, 2012 by David Kim - Page 3
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Instigata
United States546 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:24 TechNoTrance wrote: People whine when blizz makes changes too quickly without enough testing. People whine when blizz is patient and careful about making changes with a fair amount of testing. Standard. People complain when Blizzard makes stupid and unnecessary changes to a good match-up. People complain when Blizzard refuses to adress the various problems created by said changes. Fixed. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:17 Zelniq wrote: Wish they just did this all the time.. players, most of the time will figure out ways to deal with any problems and on some occasions Blizzard should have just waited longer before making changes This, exactly. All I ask is for some consistency, really. I would prefer the wait for players to figure things out approach but if you are going to throw buffs and nerfs around then you might as well keep that going. Pick a lane and stick with it. | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
I understand that their view when they see terran somewhat adapting to the situation, however, for a average terran like me I can see clearly the lack of terrans on ladder each time I play. On ladder my opponents are 20% T / 40% P / 40% Z according to Sc2gears. I understand that Kas and MVP makes it look easy, however, for majority of terrans it's a struggle. And last but not least it's great to see that David Kim sees that Raven has potential. Since that's the only word to describe Raven, a unit with a lot of potential and that's it. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On a second note, WHO didn't expect that? Terran being buffed?Ha, are you god damn mad?Better patch zerg again after virtually no PTR, because only terran makes them feel like they should give more time for players "to fully explore the slowly-shifting meta-game" | ||
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the_business_og
United States167 Posts
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:27 TheDwf wrote: People complain when Blizzard makes stupid and unnecessary changes to a good match-up. People complain when Blizzard refuses to adress the various problems created by said changes. Fixed. I dont agree with the TvZ was a great match up prior to the +2 queen range. I have a problem with a opening that was used on every map, every time. The only question was, "how many hellions will they build". But I guess it was nice for terrans to only have to know one build for the whole match up. | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Aquila-
516 Posts
Also: Comments are disabled, lol. | ||
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
Either way, this change would need to happen all over again if zerg players learned not to clump their air units, but i still see motherships winning games in ZvP, so maybe were safe anyway? | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:27 TheDwf wrote: People complain when Blizzard makes stupid and unnecessary changes to a good match-up. People complain when Blizzard refuses to adress the various problems created by said changes. Fixed. So much bias in one post. Thanks for proving my point. | ||
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Vete
Germany190 Posts
with Zerg. The queen range + Show Spoiler + ( on +5Range maybe 4.5/4 would be enough (yes it was necessary but not in this extend) I think they will change the position with Terran in Hots ( Zergs dominate).After some months zergs wonder why they only get nerfs and terrans get buff. finally Hots Toss will get a good buff and will dominate ( the same things with this Addon then) ect. it is most likly crap what I wrote but it could be a possibility to explain the strong buffs for Zerg. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Besides if we go by tournament results, one could also point out that Terran will be the most represented race in Code S for example... | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:32 Aquila- wrote: I dont understand why they are fooling around such a long time about just the minor buff of giving the ravens a slightly higher speed, not like this would change the winrates at all but making it a bit easier to use ravens that already need a lot of time and money to get going. They nerfed so many major things without even a PTR that had a significant impact on the balance, but now when it comes to such a minor improvement they need to think about it for months? This, exactly I have lost all faith in David and Dustin... | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
It's good they're doing this now... but drawing conclusings from Mvp winning games vs foreigners that are obviously far inferior players is pretty silly. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:30 Plansix wrote: I dont agree with the TvZ was a great match up prior to the +2 queen range. I have a problem with a opening that was used on every map, every time. The only question was, "how many hellions will they build". But I guess it was nice for terrans to only have to know one build for the whole match up. I hope you realize how ironic this statement is when talking about Zerg. And regardless of your opinion about pre-Queen buff TvZ, it was widely recognized at the most successful match-up in SC2. Now a lot of people compare it to ZvP... which unfortunately says a lot. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:24 TechNoTrance wrote: People whine when blizz makes changes too quickly without enough testing. People whine when blizz is patient and careful about making changes with a fair amount of testing. Standard. Except they had more than enough time for testing and their evaluation of IEM's games is atrocious at best, I watched every IEM replay involving MVP, his builds were extremely well thought-out, down to the T, his opponents were simply put subpar zergs, much much worse players than MVP, yet all that DKim could take from that is "game is fine, mvp wins, you see?"Why no PTR for a zerg buff that the majority DISAGREES with and when it comes to terran even when the majority AGREES with the change, it doesn't go through? It's laughable, queen range wasn't welcome, raven change was, blizzard doesn't care, probably thinking of new variations of destructible rocks. | ||
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