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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
We feel that at this time, we should give players more opportunities to fully explore the slowly-shifting meta-game before we change the balance of the game. Wish they just did this all the time.. players, most of the time will figure out ways to deal with any problems and on some occasions Blizzard should have just waited longer before making changes | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:14 TheDwf wrote: So this is how Blizzard decides to balance or not the game? By watching Mvp crushing inferior Zergs then concluding TvZ is OK? How amateurish. I'm sure he could write you a book on the various things they do and look at to come to conclusions, but it's not worth it if he's just making a 2-minute update. Simmer down. | ||
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pmp10
3374 Posts
 Now someone put avilo on suicide watch. This should put the end to the silliness of thinking blizzard could actually do something wrong :D | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
WCS- enough said Korea- P has always been good and the metagame shifting benefits them I guess MLG- Zerg champion ( not to say that was balance related Leenock played beast but still) Racial balance in tournaments is a terrible way of looking at balance in general. They clearly just don't want to see any terrans playing on the ladder if they continue with this way of "balancing". Its pretty funny how when terrans are underpowered its ok bc the metagame is shifting, but when it comes to a different race having trouble they either baby them and show them what to do or nerf terran. The second a 2 base thor timing from a foreigner vs cross server Korean game comes out a giant nerf making the Thor obsolete in TvP comes. Or one tournament of blue flame hellions is enough to warrant a giant nerf. And depending on the day a bunker or barracks builds too fast or too slow. In both TvP and TvZ, one misclick even when you are mechanically stronger and ahead can cost the game..its OK when you are on the level of IMMVP, but everybody else its unreasonable to expect this type of play. I guess David Kim doesn't think so. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:17 Zelniq wrote: Wish they just did this all the time.. players, most of the time will figure out ways to deal with any problems and on some occasions Blizzard should have just waited longer before making changes They are slowing catching on. Blizzard has come a long way since the release of SC2. The maps alone are a huge improvement. We should focus on making better maps and keep the balance changes off the table for a while. | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:14 TheDwf wrote: So this is how Blizzard decides to balance or not the game? By watching Mvp crushing inferior Zergs then concluding TvZ is OK? How amateurish. Did you even read it? They never said it was perfect, they said they are going to wait to see how to meta-game evolves after seeing the potential use for ravens. They still could buff them or nerf creep, but they don't want to rush things. Being patient and considerate is amateurish to you? Does that mean you are in favour of knee-jerk balance changes then? | ||
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Deleted User 123474
292 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:14 Plansix wrote: I will never have the AMP to control blink stalkers like Hero or MC, but I keep running into that brick wall in PvP. Don't worry, I have faith in you and that your ability to get enough AMP to beat your opponents. Adenosine Mono-Phosphate? You must mean either ATP (energy) or APM (movements). But I'm not so sure, given that that typo happened twice in a row... I think that the creep nerf is still necessary, as the game is, even if possibly fair in TvZ, kind of lacking in an interesting early and mid-game. And, like others have pointed out, basing balance on the status of TaeJa's and MVP's conditions is suspect. The "interest" factor also applies to the raven changes, IMO. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:17 Zelniq wrote: Wish they just did this all the time.. players, most of the time will figure out ways to deal with any problems and on some occasions Blizzard should have just waited longer before making changes This game especially toss balance was pretty dire in the fall of last year. I think in hindsight we're being gracious but it wasn't a very competitive or compelling game at the pro-level for significant portions of last year. Now after the map changes and the balance tweaks we're reaching an equilibrium where on their day no one race is really expected to dominate or more likely to win. Unfortunately, some of the fundamental design seems terrible and the gameplay stale, but this game is significantly more competitive than it was before Bliz stepped in. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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nt-rAven
Canada405 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:21 TechNoTrance wrote: Did you even read it? They never said it was perfect, they said they are going to wait to see how to meta-game evolves after seeing the potential use for ravens. They still could buff them or nerf creep, but they don't want to rush things. Then why did they give Queens +2 range? Don't you realize their hilarious double standards in regard to this? | ||
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Lightswarm
Canada967 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
Standard. | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:23 xrapture wrote: Guess he didn't watch any of the Vortix games. He did really well for a first time showing on the big stage. We will have to see how much better he does against a stronger player pool, but all and all he did very well. | ||
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nemonic
132 Posts
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