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On August 25 2012 03:51 CoR wrote:
i play random every game and 1 sec after start i tell my opponent what race i am
^^
I cant even tell my workers to go mine in 1 second  game lags for 2 seconds before i can do anything..
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I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves.
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On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves.
Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions.
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Random is part of the game too, stop being butthurt about you having to play a safer game , if its really that bad then just cheese or play super greedy against them. IF your worried about it not being "good" practice then just leave the game . Not to mention the higher up you go on ladder the less random players there are.
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Learning defections is a reason for you to tell me why i should not play random?
I'm sorry, i call this rubbish. Let me choose my own learning curve. The cons you mention are very dependent of learning method. Also, if your post is directed at people below platinum, it does hardly matter against which race one plays, so it makes even less sense.
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On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions.
the man speaks the truth though, a lot of the complaints hold no value and illogical and its mostly idiotic whines. it is annoying. opinions are cool but the moment they're wrapped around with baseless claims such as ffe is only viable pvz opener or all randomers are cheesers, etc., it is no longer an opinion, only childish whines.
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On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions.
He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling.
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On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling.
Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject.
What an idiotic view point.
I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster.
It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters.
Thanks for bring that up.
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On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up.
This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time.
Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game.
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On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game.
Really? I remember Artosis saying that Wolf was masters on KR and he actually would practice with him.
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On August 25 2012 05:24 ShakAttaK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game. Really? I remember Artosis saying that Wolf was masters on KR and he actually would practice with him.
He definitely doesn't understand the game at a KR masters level...
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On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game.
Athlete's with inflated egos criticize others? How very surprising. The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters. That's all beside the point and irellevant to this thread though.
It's just funny hearing all these non-pros whine that NA ladder isn't good practice BECAUSE OF RANDOMS (LOL). As if there aren't TONS of other more valid reasons why you wouldnt use NA or EU ladder as your main practice.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:
The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters.
That's because casting is a lot of other skills besides game knowledge. However, the casters actually worth listening to for information are the ones that are also good players with pretty much no exceptions.
Anyway, I have an account for laddering as random. It sucks that I deal with a ton of rushes because nobody wants to deal with the inevitable random rushing that most randoms do. Just display the damn race in the loading screen, all possible issues solved.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game. Athlete's with inflated egos criticize others? How very surprising. The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters. That's all beside the point and irellevant to this thread though. It's just funny hearing all these non-pros whine that NA ladder isn't good practice BECAUSE OF RANDOMS (LOL). As if there aren't TONS of other more valid reasons why you wouldnt use NA or EU ladder as your main practice.
KR has the most randoms FYI
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On August 25 2012 06:03 Nightshade_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game. Athlete's with inflated egos criticize others? How very surprising. The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters. That's all beside the point and irellevant to this thread though. It's just funny hearing all these non-pros whine that NA ladder isn't good practice BECAUSE OF RANDOMS (LOL). As if there aren't TONS of other more valid reasons why you wouldnt use NA or EU ladder as your main practice. KR has the most randoms FYI
That's really ironic, funny and interesting at the same time. Thanks ^^
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On August 25 2012 06:05 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 06:03 Nightshade_ wrote:On August 25 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game. Athlete's with inflated egos criticize others? How very surprising. The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters. That's all beside the point and irellevant to this thread though. It's just funny hearing all these non-pros whine that NA ladder isn't good practice BECAUSE OF RANDOMS (LOL). As if there aren't TONS of other more valid reasons why you wouldnt use NA or EU ladder as your main practice. KR has the most randoms FYI That's really ironic, funny and interesting at the same time. Thanks ^^
it goes like toss -> random -> terran -> whites -> zerg
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On August 25 2012 06:05 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 06:03 Nightshade_ wrote:On August 25 2012 05:56 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 05:23 xrapture wrote:On August 25 2012 05:09 Smancer wrote:On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling. Finally someone said it. I am so sick of those mid-master and above people. How they think they are the only ones who have an oppinion on the subject. What an idiotic view point. I mean take any other sport like baseball. You have incredibly smart analysts who study the game, but yet have never played themselves. And yet, you don't hear players go around saying, those idiots have no idea what they are talking about because they aren't grandmaster. It is simple minded to think that just because someone is low level, they can't analyze the game more so than someone who is high masters. Thanks for bring that up. This is so blatantly wrong lol. Guess you don't know who Hope Solo is (recent athlete who criticized analyst) As an avid follower of American sports, I can tell you that players criticize analysts all the time. Even in our SC2 scene, you get tweets from Morrow saying "Wolf is in gold league and saying Code S players are playing badly" or Cloud saying that no casters understand the game. Athlete's with inflated egos criticize others? How very surprising. The best casters don't have to be the best players and the best players don't necessarily (rarely infact) make the best casters. That's all beside the point and irellevant to this thread though. It's just funny hearing all these non-pros whine that NA ladder isn't good practice BECAUSE OF RANDOMS (LOL). As if there aren't TONS of other more valid reasons why you wouldnt use NA or EU ladder as your main practice. KR has the most randoms FYI That's really ironic, funny and interesting at the same time. Thanks ^^
it does make sense. most korean sc2 players probably have played bw for long time and many long time bw players probably played random or know how to use all three races competently. i played random since beginning because lack of knowledge was backed up by 10 years of bw mechanics, i understand for new sc2 people wanting to focus their improvement of mechanics and knowledge on one race but those who played bw for long time, its only a matter of time getting used to other races and would rather be competent with all three rather than being good at one and completely noob at others,
to those that say "roll a dice before you play instead"...i ask, why....? if there was no random button, sure but there is a random button. race dont matter on ladder
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On August 25 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:05 Mr Showtime wrote:On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Cool your jets Dr. Hostile. People are going to have differing opinions. He's right... It's absurd hearing mid-master scrubs complain that their sanctified ladder practice is somehow compromised by the existance of Random players. It's actually mind boggling.
I absolutely agree as well. But the fact remains that not everyone else will. No need to get all nasty about it. People are going to always disagree.
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On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves.
Speaking of poorly thought out arguments, what, other than angry adjectives and ad hominem attacks, are yours?
Choosing random produces sub-optimal Starcraft games and involves increased BO luck. How is that beneficial to the game? The argument that 'random players have to learn all races, so they need an advantage' doesn't make any sense. They can just choose not to play random. Giving them an artificial advantage like this (in my view, absolutely analagous to giving their units +10% HP or something equally silly) is not helping anyone. Why would random players want to be artificially higher ranked through increased build order luck, rather than beating their opponent purely through their own skill? If I played random, I would like to win a TvZ purely on the strength of my ability to play the matchup rather than winning from an early lead caused by my opponents fear of going hatchery first. The argument that it increases variety is bullshit as well. Rather, it does the exact opposite. It forces the opponent down a weird catch-all build (like 15 pool 16 hatch for zerg) and thus decreases the level of early game variety in the game. Aside from this the hidden random specifically caters to the cheesy play from random players that I feel would be prominent enough without the hidden-race-buff. It might not be a huge deal, but for these reasons, I really don't enjoy encountering random on the ladder at all. That's my opinion, and unlike yours its complete with arguments and all.
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On August 25 2012 06:43 Catatafish wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:02 Befree wrote:
I find this attitude against random very infuriating. People who are too stupid, too biased, and too quick to whine, making ignorant, poorly thought out arguments, against a non-existent problem for the sake of preserving their delusional self image and securing their fictional narrative on why life is not fair for them.
Even accepting (the terrible) arguments of random being an advantage or impeding your learning, who the fuck are you to lecture others on their choices on a public Battle.net ladder? Quit expecting others to conform under your will.
This whiny, pathetic, entitled attitude is getting really old on here. Get over yourselves. Speaking of poorly thought out arguments, what, other than angry adjectives and ad hominem attacks, are yours? Choosing random produces sub-optimal Starcraft games and involves increased BO luck. How is that beneficial to the game? The argument that 'random players have to learn all races, so they need an advantage' doesn't make any sense. They can just choose not to play random. Giving them an artificial advantage like this (in my view, absolutely analagous to giving their units +10% HP or something equally silly) is not helping anyone. Why would random players want to be artificially higher ranked through increased build order luck, rather than beating their opponent purely through their own skill? If I played random, I would like to win a TvZ purely on the strength of my ability to play the matchup rather than winning from an early lead caused by my opponents fear of going hatchery first. The argument that it increases variety is bullshit as well. Rather, it does the exact opposite. It forces the opponent down a weird catch-all build (like 15 pool 16 hatch for zerg) and thus decreases the level of early game variety in the game. Aside from this the hidden random specifically caters to the cheesy play from random players that I feel would be prominent enough without the hidden-race-buff. It might not be a huge deal, but for these reasons, I really don't enjoy encountering random on the ladder at all. That's my opinion, and unlike yours its complete with arguments and all.
It's absurd and funny at the same time that you think the "BO advantage" of Random artificially inflates Random player's rank/skill. I honestly can't wrap my head around that. Like do you honestly believe that every Random player blindly plays the same builds specifically to counter the most common openers for each race? Like seriously. If you're actually half decent at SC2 you aren't even going to be playing many Random players in the first place. And chances are they aren't half bad players. Stop acting like Random turns diamonds into GMs or some shit.
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