Stephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 53

On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.

On August 22 2012 05:12 riderLyrae wrote:
With the amount of baseless ragging on Evil Geniuses in the community you'd think that they're doing something right and everyone is just jealous.

On August 22 2012 04:05 Benjamin99 wrote:


I hear its more like +15k$ per month.

On August 22 2012 05:12 riderLyrae wrote:
With the amount of baseless ragging on Evil Geniuses in the community you'd think that they're doing something right and everyone is just jealous.

On August 22 2012 05:15 Arachne wrote:
What about the BW teams?

Skimmed thru some posts., Anyone think they might pick up Stephano?

They pay the highest salaries don't they?

On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.

On August 22 2012 05:19 turdburgler wrote:


its nothing to do with that. EG is the first team to truly run like a business. they are in the business of making money and they user sponsorship placement in games as a means to that ends. other teams tend to be run the opposite way around. they see making money as the means to the end of getting more players out there to play games, making a little money is a helpful byproduct that allows them to do what they do.

in pretty much every sport the fans would prefer the second model, they see the short term results of spending all energy building a team and whatnot and they just want to see their favorite player do well. but when the business, run by business men, make a choice to promote the brand and make money, ahead of get results, the fans who are emotionally driven are upset.

be it EG players spending too much time on talk shows promoting instead of playing or a football team bringing in a star name that they dont really need to appease sponsors and more fickle fans.

fans would prefer if every team was run like a dignitas or a mouz, who are focused on getting a player to an event. this makes them popular, but its short sighted, growing the brand long term allows EG to send more players to more events, but an emotionally driven fan doesnt see it like that. EG gets shit on by neutral fans because they are interested players players player, and its difficult sometimes to look 5 years in to the future, and if a team will still be around.

so EG are probably in the right in their choices from an objective standpoint and thats what makes them a great business, but as the first ones to be a 'real' business they also get a lot of flack

On August 22 2012 05:18 nymfaw wrote:
The difference between liquid and EG is that liquid is actually serious business where people are expected to do well. EG is all about chilling out and smoking weed in a big summerhouse in Florida or wherever it is. Of course im jealous of Stephano, i'd love to sit in a LAN all day playing whenever I wanted, swimming in the pool whenever I wanted and trashtalking the other fatsos in my clan for drinking disgusting acid aka Monster all day while getting payed. Its a superstar life that no one can blame Stephano for choosing.

On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

On August 22 2012 05:18 nymfaw wrote:
The difference between liquid and EG is that liquid is actually serious business where people are expected to do well. EG is all about chilling out and smoking weed in a big summerhouse in Florida or wherever it is. Of course im jealous of Stephano, i'd love to sit in a LAN all day playing whenever I wanted, swimming in the pool whenever I wanted and trashtalking the other fatsos in my clan for drinking disgusting acid aka Monster all day while getting payed. Its a superstar life that no one can blame Stephano for choosing.

On August 22 2012 04:00 Doodsmack wrote:


Do you consider yourself a smart person? If yes, how is it that you overlooked the fact that 1) they're competitors and motivated to win irrespective of money and 2) that the money motivation is very much still present once you join EG, because you can get a renewed contract and possibly an increase in salary? Let's hear you try to explain those factors away .

On August 22 2012 05:24 Mtuhk wrote:


Not my post, but in general i think EG has a serious problem with their results, considering the sort of budget they're playing with. We should have at least a GSL/MLG runner-up from the last 6-9 months, or a major european tournament winner (No, Thorzain doesn't really count, since he was picked up after his DreamHack Open win) but EG hasn't really posted any results during late 2011 or 2012.

They've got the talent, but maybe they're not paying for results, rather for potential. Drop the players' salaries by a large margin, but give them incentives to post results via royalties. Say Puma wins MLG and he makes more money from this win than he would otherwise bring in for a whole year, or Idra getting into Code S and BAM! he's raking in the dollars. Those players who don't achieve success are still getting paid, but just enough to get by, considering they're still getting accomodations in the team house.

On August 22 2012 05:26 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
if he leaves for an awesome salary and it's not EG, that would be interesting seeing another team able to cough up that kind of cash. Somewhat exciting still though no matter what team it is.

On August 22 2012 05:24 Mtuhk wrote:


Not my post, but in general i think EG has a serious problem with their results, considering the sort of budget they're playing with. We should have at least a GSL/MLG runner-up from the last 6-9 months, or a major european tournament winner (No, Thorzain doesn't really count, since he was picked up after his DreamHack Open win) but EG hasn't really posted any results during late 2011 or 2012.

They've got the talent, but maybe they're not paying for results, rather for potential. Drop the players' salaries by a large margin, but give them incentives to post results via royalties. Say Puma wins MLG and he makes more money from this win than he would otherwise bring in for a whole year, or Idra getting into Code S and BAM! he's raking in the dollars. Those players who don't achieve success are still getting paid, but just enough to get by, considering they're still getting accomodations in the team house.