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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything.
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
August 21 2012 20:28 GMT
#1061
When doing the dinner dishes, thinking of this i was wondering is he still in korea ? and then it got me wondering could he have gone to Team 8. Lets face it he is the most likely non korean players to be a A teamer
Drone untill i die.
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 20:30:45
August 21 2012 20:28 GMT
#1062
On August 22 2012 05:18 nymfaw wrote:
The difference between liquid and EG is that liquid is actually serious business where people are expected to do well. EG is all about chilling out and smoking weed in a big summerhouse in Florida or wherever it is. Of course im jealous of Stephano, i'd love to sit in a LAN all day playing whenever I wanted, swimming in the pool whenever I wanted and trashtalking the other fatsos in my clan for drinking disgusting acid aka Monster all day while getting payed. Its a superstar life that no one can blame Stephano for choosing.



so mutch hate?! why? i really thought people on tl were smarter
this is just bashing ... terrible
JANGBI never forget
Wayne123
Profile Joined July 2011
88 Posts
August 21 2012 20:29 GMT
#1063
Stephano stated that he´s doing pro gaming for the money and only for a limited amount of time. As a member of EG, he can
probably earn the maximum amount of money he can earn as a professional gamer. If he joins EG, he would have made the smartest move he can make.

Also, to all those people who say he just going for the money and that his decision is wrong because EG is bad in your opinion. What would you do, if you know that you only do for another pro gaming for 1-3 years and somebody offers you a huge contract? Most people would accept the contract because it´s smart. It´s not an idealistic decision where you say, it´s EG, I won´t join them because they suck. No, most people choose the money because, after all you need the money for your future.(Like going to college after gaming, buying a house, ..., Whatever you want to do after pro gaming) After your gaming career, who cares on which team you were? You need the money because no one out there pays your bills, you need to do it and if you can´t you have a problem.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 21 2012 20:31 GMT
#1064
On August 22 2012 05:27 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:24 Mtuhk wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:00 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 22 2012 03:50 DeCoder wrote:
EG is like a luxury retirement home for professional players. Only the most accomplished are invited in, and once they they are in there is no going back. Your career will be over, but you don't care since you're busy enjoying a relaxed training regime and the best benefits in the business.


Do you consider yourself a smart person? If yes, how is it that you overlooked the fact that 1) they're competitors and motivated to win irrespective of money and 2) that the money motivation is very much still present once you join EG, because you can get a renewed contract and possibly an increase in salary? Let's hear you try to explain those factors away .


Not my post, but in general i think EG has a serious problem with their results, considering the sort of budget they're playing with. We should have at least a GSL/MLG runner-up from the last 6-9 months, or a major european tournament winner (No, Thorzain doesn't really count, since he was picked up after his DreamHack Open win) but EG hasn't really posted any results during late 2011 or 2012.

They've got the talent, but maybe they're not paying for results, rather for potential. Drop the players' salaries by a large margin, but give them incentives to post results via royalties. Say Puma wins MLG and he makes more money from this win than he would otherwise bring in for a whole year, or Idra getting into Code S and BAM! he's raking in the dollars. Those players who don't achieve success are still getting paid, but just enough to get by, considering they're still getting accomodations in the team house.



Im not too fond of eg's results either, but they are a business and need to please sponsors. It just so happens that the sc2 communty value personalities more than they do results, otherwise MVP would be the most popular player, but hes not... SO maybe people should stop looking at EG for having something wrong with them and instead focus on the community. In no other esport that I know of besides sc2 do people like destiny get huge stream numbers. SC2 scene loves drama and personalities and EG caters to that. Start blaming the community, not the most well-run team there is.

this is not specific to the sc2 scene. its pretty normal across all sports and entertainment. But sports stars are media trained and know how to build personas and such. People watch Destiny for entertainment and because they find him funny.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
August 21 2012 20:33 GMT
#1065
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.
esports
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 21 2012 20:33 GMT
#1066
On August 22 2012 05:31 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:24 Mtuhk wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:00 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 22 2012 03:50 DeCoder wrote:
EG is like a luxury retirement home for professional players. Only the most accomplished are invited in, and once they they are in there is no going back. Your career will be over, but you don't care since you're busy enjoying a relaxed training regime and the best benefits in the business.


Do you consider yourself a smart person? If yes, how is it that you overlooked the fact that 1) they're competitors and motivated to win irrespective of money and 2) that the money motivation is very much still present once you join EG, because you can get a renewed contract and possibly an increase in salary? Let's hear you try to explain those factors away .


Not my post, but in general i think EG has a serious problem with their results, considering the sort of budget they're playing with. We should have at least a GSL/MLG runner-up from the last 6-9 months, or a major european tournament winner (No, Thorzain doesn't really count, since he was picked up after his DreamHack Open win) but EG hasn't really posted any results during late 2011 or 2012.

They've got the talent, but maybe they're not paying for results, rather for potential. Drop the players' salaries by a large margin, but give them incentives to post results via royalties. Say Puma wins MLG and he makes more money from this win than he would otherwise bring in for a whole year, or Idra getting into Code S and BAM! he's raking in the dollars. Those players who don't achieve success are still getting paid, but just enough to get by, considering they're still getting accomodations in the team house.



Im not too fond of eg's results either, but they are a business and need to please sponsors. It just so happens that the sc2 communty value personalities more than they do results, otherwise MVP would be the most popular player, but hes not... SO maybe people should stop looking at EG for having something wrong with them and instead focus on the community. In no other esport that I know of besides sc2 do people like destiny get huge stream numbers. SC2 scene loves drama and personalities and EG caters to that. Start blaming the community, not the most well-run team there is.

this is not specific to the sc2 scene. its pretty normal across all sports and entertainment. But sports stars are media trained and know how to build personas and such. People watch Destiny for entertainment and because they find him funny.



I dunno, in the cs scene which preceded the sc2 scene in both america and europe, bad players were laughed at and never taken seriously....ever. They are still running jokes to this day.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 21 2012 20:34 GMT
#1067
It will be good for EG's terrans and JYP to have a legitimate zerg to practice against. It will be good for Idra too, take pressure of him, lets him ease into the transition InControl has been going through for the last 2 years and become a caster/personality/coach/streamer. It will be great for Suppy, someone to pick up tips from too while he continues to rise higher and higher. [although if I were suppy I'd rather enjoy college but hey, diff strokes for different folks.]
Its kind of bad for Machine and the other less-than-successful or visible EG guys (lzgamer I guess) because they dont have the personality thing incontrol and idra will fall back onto.

And its good for stephano, he doesnt like to work that hard and he gets to live in a very nice house in Arizona or whatever. Instantly is the best player on the team. And lets face it, the personality he projects while playing fits with the EG brand. The only one better at appearing as an evil genius is idra.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 21 2012 20:34 GMT
#1068
On August 22 2012 05:33 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.



Fun fact: Taeja is gettin PAID by liquid and he wouldnt have joined them if liquid didnt caugh up the dough. Same shit here.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 21 2012 20:35 GMT
#1069
Wait didnt Stephano say he wanted to stay in the TSL for longer?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 21 2012 20:35 GMT
#1070
On August 22 2012 05:33 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.

exactly, Liquid is incredibly dependent on Taeja.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 21 2012 20:36 GMT
#1071
EG is the KT academy of SC2.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
August 21 2012 20:36 GMT
#1072
It doesn't make sense to badmouth EG as they do a lot for the SC2 community, but it is very obvious that some, if not all the players on EG never returned to the potential they were showing before joining EG. Getting paid gives you a false sense of gratification with your performances so I wouldn't be surprised of Stephano starts slipping soon. He's probably closer to the end of his SC2 career anyways.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
Nelz
Profile Joined December 2011
309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 20:39:31
August 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#1073
On August 22 2012 04:51 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano's practice schedule is a complete joke; he takes a week or two off after every major tournament and when he's traveling for tournaments (which lately is almost all of the time) he barely practices at all. Even in his recent trip to Korea, which was purportedly to practice hard for the upcoming MLG event, he played way more than usual for about three days (8+ hours) but then he started playing every other day and now hasn't played at all apparently in several days. Despite his general lack of practice, he is still at this moment, given DRG's recent collapse, curious's and symbol's inconsistency and life's lack of results (which will change soon), arguably the best zerg on the planet. This is all to say, it seems extremely unlikely that a move to EG will impact his level of play since he already practices so little as it is. He could practice solely only on the NA server and it probably would not affect his overall level of gameplay significantly. In fact, EG, because it wants Stephano to stream, will probably have a positive impact on his overall play since he'll be forced to stream more regularly (and thus practice more) than he does now. Also if his salary is higher than it is at present this will give him more freedom not to not enter a million online tournaments and perhaps go to Korea for an extended stay and a run at the GSL.


Stephano left Korea 3 days ago and came back in France yesterday ( see his twitter ), he will probably fly tomorrow towards MLG, so yeah, he will not have practice for nearly a week just before this MLG.

And about the EG curse, we'll see, Stephano stated several times that he wants to be the best player in the world since his victory in NASL3 and i want to believe him on that statement (not that he will be the best but that he will really try and stop being lazy).
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
August 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#1074
On August 22 2012 05:34 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:33 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.



Fun fact: Taeja is gettin PAID by liquid and he wouldnt have joined them if liquid didnt caugh up the dough. Same shit here.


He had a stable position at one of the then top teams, slayers, he left because it benefited his career to be able to go to foreign tournaments.
esports
Warzilla
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic311 Posts
August 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#1075
Awesome now i can finally cheer for the same team :D All of my favorite players are in EG
"AFTER LOST GAME - I usually run around in circles yelling "WHY OH GOD WHY" in my room, pointing towards the sky. After 5 to 10min ,i get tired and go back to playing"
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 21 2012 20:38 GMT
#1076
On August 22 2012 05:37 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:34 stratmatt wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:33 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.



Fun fact: Taeja is gettin PAID by liquid and he wouldnt have joined them if liquid didnt caugh up the dough. Same shit here.


He had a stable position at one of the then top teams, slayers, he left because it benefited his career to be able to go to foreign tournaments.



Wait, you mean....HE GOT PAID? NOOOOOOOOOOooooo......travel cost money, dawg
newbie550
Profile Joined August 2012
Cuba13 Posts
August 21 2012 20:39 GMT
#1077
fun fact: everybody except the monster brainwashed EG fanboys knows that team EG is a joke in terms of tournament results the last 2 years.

User was warned for this post
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 21 2012 20:40 GMT
#1078
On August 22 2012 05:37 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:34 stratmatt wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:33 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:22 testthewest wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:10 skatblast wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:00 Luepert wrote:
On August 22 2012 04:44 skatblast wrote:
I dont understand why people complain and say EG players are bad. EG is the best foreign team obviously, Liquid cant compete roster to roster, so why act like all the EG players are so terrible.


Sheth all killed EG.


Thats why i said roster to roster. There would be no all killing sir.


Oh common, Taeja, Ret, Sheth, Hero are all better than any EG player.

fun fact, JYP won more GSTL games alone than the entire Liquid roster


Fun fact, Taeja won more games in the IPL TAC Finals that JPY did in the entire GSTL/IPL TAC combined.



Fun fact: Taeja is gettin PAID by liquid and he wouldnt have joined them if liquid didnt caugh up the dough. Same shit here.


He had a stable position at one of the then top teams, slayers, he left because it benefited his career to be able to go to foreign tournaments.

plz dont tell me u dont think it was because of money
ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
August 21 2012 20:40 GMT
#1079
It is sorta weird to see Stephano on EG or any other big team name for that reason. I think it is because on Millenium Stephano was the only player I knew about so I considered Millenium team Stephano. On EG its not team Stephano cuz the other players are all so well known. Just thought I'd throw out what I thought about it. Just hope he doesn't slump. After watching all of the hard work he was putting in on the Korean ladder I had high hopes and if he kept practicing like that I think he could really be at the tip top of SC2.
ZERg
TheRealzz
Profile Joined November 2010
150 Posts
August 21 2012 20:41 GMT
#1080
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhh BUDdddddddy!!!

EG Whaaaaat bi.tches!!! That's my Teeeeeaaaaaam!!!
One-base play is aggression ?
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