EPTOn August 21 2012 20:59 K4m4Hl wrote:
Another really good player disappearing from the tourney scene
Another really good player disappearing from the tourney scene
I see what you did tharhardeeharhar!!!
Stephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 55
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BadAim
Norway879 Posts
I see what you did tharhardeeharhar!!! | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
could u name me players that disappeared after joining eg and how it is a trend? | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:18 nymfaw wrote: The difference between liquid and EG is that liquid is actually serious business where people are expected to do well. EG is all about chilling out and smoking weed in a big summerhouse in Florida or wherever it is. Of course im jealous of Stephano, i'd love to sit in a LAN all day playing whenever I wanted, swimming in the pool whenever I wanted and trashtalking the other fatsos in my clan for drinking disgusting acid aka Monster all day while getting payed. Its a superstar life that no one can blame Stephano for choosing. Liquid expected to do well? hahahahahaha Tyler TLO Haypro Jinro The best result those 4 combined have posted in the last ~1.5 year is what, a top-x finish by haypro on an mlg? Liquid's positive results = Taeja + Hero. I'm not saying anything about EG, just the part about liquid is wrong. | ||
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:38 stratmatt wrote: Wait, you mean....HE GOT PAID? NOOOOOOOOOOooooo......travel cost money, dawg Yes, the Starcraft team Slayers paid one of their top terrans Taeja. Also, Team Liquid pays him. This is how the system works, teams pay players money to represent them. | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:45 Luepert wrote: Yes, the Starcraft team Slayers paid one of their top terrans Taeja. Also, Team Liquid pays him. This is how the system works, teams pay players money to represent them. yea and i promise you he isnt getting paid more now that he is in liquid lol... | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:45 Luepert wrote: Yes, the Starcraft team Slayers paid one of their top terrans Taeja. Also, Team Liquid pays him. This is how the system works, teams pay players money to represent them. Taeja wasn't really one of SlayerS top Terrans. MMA, Ganzi and Ryung were always considered better than him. I doubt he was getting paid honestly. He wasn't even living in the team house. | ||
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:43 niteReloaded wrote: Liquid expected to do well? hahahahahaha Tyler TLO Haypro Jinro The best result those 4 combined have posted in the last ~1.5 year is what, a top-x finish by haypro on an mlg? Liquid's positive results = Taeja + Hero. I'm not saying anything about EG, just the part about liquid is wrong. Both TLO and jinro have come within one series (and in both cases) one game away from code A which is a feat that very few non koreans can claim they've done. Jinro/TLO/DeathAngel/Macsed/Torch are the only foreigners that I can think of that have been in the finals of a code A qualifier since code A started. TLO also came close to being seeded into IEM from the Korean bracket (losing 2-3 to inori who eventually did qualify) EDIT: Added Macsed to the list of code A qualifier finalist foreigners EDIT2: Added Torch EDIT3: Nvm Jinro was in one final | ||
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Interstellar
Mexico67 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:43 sam05396 wrote: could u name me players that disappeared after joining eg and how it is a trend? Idra and Huk for starters. Sure they play and win tournaments in their respective countries, but before that they were touted as the best players for their races. JYP was looking like he could win a Code S tournament but never improved to be able to. Same with Puma. Never improved. Players like lzgamer and machine have never placed high in any tournaments. Why is that teams like IM or Startale have young players who already dominating Code S and tournaments everywhere? | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:49 Burns wrote: well, eg has gotten pretty boring, its like they dont even care about the team, theyll just buy new players to replace the ones that burnt out Yeah there is such a thing as having too many players. | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:50 chipmonklord17 wrote: Both TLO and jinro have come within one series (and in both cases) one game away from code A which is a feat that very few non koreans can claim they've done. Jinro/TLO/DeathAngel/Macsed/Torch are the only foreigners that I can think of that have been in the finals of a code A qualifier since code A started. And as the case with Jinro (and deathangel) they've done it more than once. TLO also came close to being seeded into IEM from the Korean bracket (losing 2-3 to inori who eventually did qualify) EDIT: Added Macsed to the list of code A qualifier finalist foreigners EDIT2: Added Torch so we are considering almost qualifying for tournaments notable success's? | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
Like Liquid'Tyler (even HuK) said, if you want to stay "dominant", you got to adapt and change your playstyle, due to the ever changing metagame. Relying on a certain mechanic or build order is not going to maintain your relevance in the pro-scene for long. As of now, HuK is still a micro intensive player without any new build orders, any significant improvement in his macro abilities, or a stronger idea of positioning and map controlling. Idra is still an macro monster who relies a lot on massing units (even his upgrade timings are below average). Also, he still makes a lot of costly mistakes such as poor engagements or bad unit control and gets tilted pretty easily. Puma still relies on a lot of abusive plays such as greedy CC's or cheesy all-ins. Puma had really scary executions. But by now, everyone knows how Puma plays and can react to his playstyle accordingly. DeMuslim, JYP, and Thorzain were always considered to be high-tier players with good mechanics, but they were never "outstanding". Everyone else sucks (in pro-gaming terms). I guess the difference between Stephano and the other top players is very solid decision-making capabilities, even though a lot of avid zerg fans nitpick his slightly flawed mechanics. But I think EG is good for him but a heart-breaker for the foreign fans hoping for a dominant foreigner. | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:53 Interstellar wrote: Idra and Huk for starters. Sure they play and win tournaments in their respective countries, but before that they were touted as the best players for their races. JYP was looking like he could win a Code S tournament but never improved to be able to. Same with Puma. Never improved. Players like lzgamer and machine have never placed high in any tournaments. Why is that teams like IM or Startale have young players who already dominating Code S and tournaments everywhere? jyp never looked like he could win code s didnt even look like he could beat terran at all. Huk is the one true one at this point. And someone who has been on one team for 2 years counts as a slump because of eg? can u show me one other player other than mvp mc or nestea who has been consistent through that time? Also Puma had 6 top 3 finishes in tournaments after joining eg. And are we comparing eg a foreign team to other foreign teams, or are we comparing them to korean teams? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:56 sam05396 wrote: so we are considering almost qualifying for tournaments notable success's? When you count that in almost a year its been done by 5 people yes I'd say that's impressive and a success. Not a large one mind you but they've all proved they're pretty damn good | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:53 Interstellar wrote: Idra and Huk for starters. Sure they play and win tournaments in their respective countries, but before that they were touted as the best players for their races. JYP was looking like he could win a Code S tournament but never improved to be able to. Same with Puma. Never improved. Players like lzgamer and machine have never placed high in any tournaments. Why is that teams like IM or Startale have young players who already dominating Code S and tournaments everywhere? I wouldn't say Idra fell off/disappeared. Joined EG, did fairly well, got into a bit of a slump, then broke out with IEM/Asus and then had a good showing at Orlando/IPL3, then now. | ||
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RaelSan
Belgium223 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:19 StarStruck wrote: See ya, I think it's funny that you think it would be any different there. Otalio with regards to those results lets look at other results from other countries while we're at it. Question: Do you honestly think Scarlett is the best player in Canada at the moment? Take those results with a grain of salt. They aren't as important as people make them out to be especially the Swedish ones with all the star power and you can make valid reasons as to why Naniwa isn't playing so well in that type of format after being in the GSL for the last while. IMO Scarlett is, by far, the best player in Canada and has the potential to become the best in NA, many people will agree | ||
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DiamondTear
Finland165 Posts
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On August 22 2012 06:04 DiamondTear wrote: With EG firing bm casters and Stefano with his constant nazi comments, how are they at all compatible? constant nazi comments? what are you talking about | ||
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