EPTFeel free to debate whether or not Terran is really underpowered in TvZ, but don't use a single pro player as conclusive evidence that everything's okay.
[D] The raven buff does not address TvZ issues - Page 2
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
Feel free to debate whether or not Terran is really underpowered in TvZ, but don't use a single pro player as conclusive evidence that everything's okay. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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CelestialX
Canada32 Posts
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pwnopotamus
United States70 Posts
Actually...I think Ravens are still largely useless due to the time it takes to get just one HSM (as you mentioned). I really just wanted to comment on the lack of good Ghost usage vs. Infestors in the TvZ matchup. | ||
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Ochrow
United States110 Posts
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Shiori
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ritzia1
Canada95 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:24 CelestialX wrote: You lose to hydralisks in TvZ, get good and shut the fuck up. I don't know why you're being so hostile towards him, he's only stating some opinions he has wether you agree with him or not you don't need to insult him. | ||
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:10 InDesconrowl wrote: Give it some time, Taeja is doing just fine in TvZ. Instead of asking blizzard to change the game because you are struggling why don't you analyze Taeja's gameplay and learn how he succeeds in TvZ. dude stop... that's always everyone excuse, mvp is doing fine, taeja is doing fine, well guess what, nestea won an entire gsl without dropping a single game, if you wanna say taeja is doing fine, then zerg shouldn't have ever been buffed, because nestea is doing fine | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:27 Secret05 wrote: dude stop... that's always everyone excuse, mvp is doing fine, taeja is doing fine, well guess what, nestea won an entire gsl without dropping a single game, if you wanna say taeja is doing fine, then zerg shouldn't have ever been buffed, because nestea is doing fine Or DRG's 90% win rate in TvZ at one point, infact if that's how we're going to approach it then maybe we should have nerfed zerg! But seriously, people need to actually have a discussion about the post instead of saying "avilo u r a fag" or "taeja does it". TL discussion is fucking embarrassing sometimes... | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
The tumor creep radius area decrease is a start though. | ||
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:23 FeUerFlieGe wrote: Ghost EMP is good yes i agree with ghosts, this is something that terrans are starting to do more of, if you really think about it, what's the easiest way to get rid of infestors? I'm not saying I'm good with ghosts nor am i saying I'm good with terran, but a few good emps sounds like a good try | ||
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Ozell
Canada105 Posts
TvZ now equals no rush 20 minutes. | ||
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Maxilicious
221 Posts
The balance between Terran vs Zerg is not that off the chart that it requires immediate remedy. Unlike Reaper opening in the past against Zerg, for example. HotS is entering its final stages of production, and hence many things will be reset. If Blizzard do change anything for this match up, then it may hint that HotS is likely to delay further. With that being said, it's hard to change something that only affect one match up, there will be effect on other match ups. For example, TvP and ZvP. In sum, I can't see any changes coming if HotS is on track. | ||
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:29 Talack wrote: Or DRG's 90% win rate in TvZ at one point, infact if that's how we're going to approach it then maybe we should have nerfed zerg! But seriously, people need to actually have a discussion about the post instead of saying "avilo u r a fag" or "taeja does it". TL discussion is fucking embarrassing sometimes... Agreed... who cares who wrote the article, he has a pretty valid point, lets leave the personal stuff out of this. | ||
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VincendioS
Belgium107 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:19 blade55555 wrote: Ya they are and Korean terrans are saying tvz is fine. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. MMA, MKP, DRG and many more Koreans said Z was way too good. DRG said he can't loose a ZvT unless he makes a huge mistake. Edit: ForGG too. He always says on his stream that Zerg is imba. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6214 Posts
Personally, I'm still hoping for a rework to fungal's root. It's just such a terrible mechanic. | ||
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SuperPro
99 Posts
You guys really should be ashamed of yourselves. If you took the time to look at his post with an unbiased attitude, you would realize that he is not bitching or moaning, but merely pointing out a clear flaw in blizzards thinking as well as a proposed solution. | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
On August 19 2012 11:15 pac.558 wrote: avilo nice wall of text you pasty fuckin nerd your butt frustration level must be off the charts Lol.. I currently think ZvT is fine. But only ones opinion. | ||
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Ranir
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Trict
Canada182 Posts
You can also go macro to attempt to match the zergs macro, personally this doesn't seem like a good idea to me but it works for some terrans. Stop trying to use hellions early it won't work unless you completely out maneuver your enemy. Hellions still have there place in that they destroy mineral lines quickly, but this is best used later on in the game with multi pronged attacks and where they can go unattested. The raven from a P/Z player just looks bad on paper it's abilities take to long and the only one really worth it is PDD. Blizzard has there worked cut out for them making it better without being OP, but I agree with you that the speed changes address nothing on there usefulness. | ||
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