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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On August 16 2012 17:09 Godwrath wrote: Yep, because after 2 years noone figured that out. Keep waiting. Pros don't want to have to try new things, they want a comfortable little stagnant metagame. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On August 16 2012 12:40 Pelirrojo wrote: Nestea used like 6 overseers to kill Losira in a ZvZ in GSL finals a while back. That was when contaminate was probably 75 energy. | ||
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furo
Germany449 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
On August 16 2012 17:28 branflakes14 wrote: Pros don't want to have to try new things, they want a comfortable little stagnant metagame. Sure, because most builds we see weren't created by pros. If you really think there is some kind of magical flower around ravens, argue why you think so, no "somebody will figure it out". | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 16 2012 17:29 furo wrote: they dont use it because they sit behind 40 spines and make infestor/bl I understand you think thats bad? I mean they are playing the game but in fact its their JOB. So choosing most winning scenario is best for them. Contaminate strategies were and always will be gimmicks, because thats the nature of this strategy. I would say risk/reward scenario of this strategy is equivalent to how much we have seen it being done and its not my fault OP never encountered it because it only shows he was exposed to low variety of play. Ah and people are getting wrong impressions, PROS are aware of those strategies they are simply not CHOOSING them, if you have watched streams in 2010 2011 you would know they were experimenting with almost everything in the game. | ||
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Mallard86
186 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On August 11 2012 05:33 apm66 wrote: Wait until pros start using it in every game, it won't be so mediocre then. Yeah man, Raven are insane. With viking support they melt broodlord lines. Also they would help counter the mass muta style that Leenock is showing lately. Missiles FORCE the mutas away and PDDs stop them from attacking. Its incredible. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
On August 11 2012 05:27 Forikorder wrote: why do terrans not use Ravens? much more important question Switching a starport from reactor to techlab requires too much apm for foreigners. As for koreans, they are starting to use it. With zvz being the slugfest it is and given how it's still very far away from being figured out people just need more time, we will see it being used a lot eventually. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
kind of same with battlecruisers in tvz | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
You need 9 overseers to keep avrage 1 building contaminated at a time. This cost 450/450. it will never be worth it to get overseers just for contamination. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:15 G5 wrote: Contaminate is good for slowing down robo play vs toss and preventing larvae production in ZvZ. how's your PvT these days? I'd stay on track but I'm seeing 18 pages of Ravens | ||
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mannerless
Brazil86 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:21 Sea_Food wrote: Building an additional gateway cost 150/0 recourses. You need 9 overseers to keep avrage 1 building contaminated at a time. This cost 450/450. it will never be worth it to get overseers just for contamination. Hey genius, you don't need to perma-contaminate a building...you could, hrm, you know contaminate one or two buildings to delay a certain timing early/mid game?? Like delaying the 2tech-labbed factories that are pumping the first two Thors of a meching-terran who opened banshee-hellion buying you enough time to rape his economy with mutalisks?? This would actually result in a instant-win pretty often. I've actually feared having that happen to me as the Thors are out jussssst in time to defend the first wave of Mutalisks but the Zerg players would rather get stomped and bitch about how mech "takes no micro" (as opposed to zerg units). | ||
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lem0ncake
England85 Posts
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
Turret doesn't do much damage or have much health so it's kinda useless and takes way too much energy and is too difficult to mass cast unlike infested terrans Pdd isn't effective against much since it can't block more than one missile at a time, the energy runs out super fast, and it doesn't even effect most units in the game HSM is good but takes a bit too much energy considering how slow ravens regen and their max capacity. Detect is great but ravens are very expensive to produce. Anyway I (and most people I would guess) have never faced a zerg that uses contaminate to it's full potential so it's really hard to judge its practical strength. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On August 18 2012 11:08 InfCereal wrote: Just so you know, contaminate doesn't prevent repairing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dy0Qtj4Lds&feature=youtu.be How disappointing.. that was the best consistently good use of it I could think of. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:50 Maxd11 wrote: People really seem to think that ravens are amazing... Turret doesn't do much damage or have much health so it's kinda useless and takes way too much energy and is too difficult to mass cast unlike infested terrans Pdd isn't effective against much since it can't block more than one missile at a time, the energy runs out super fast, and it doesn't even effect most units in the game HSM is good but takes a bit too much energy considering how slow ravens regen and their max capacity. Detect is great but ravens are very expensive to produce. Anyway I (and most people I would guess) have never faced a zerg that uses contaminate to it's full potential so it's really hard to judge its practical strength. its the best tool we have against broodlord late game, until zerg learn to split that is | ||
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Mirham
Denmark44 Posts
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