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NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
July 31 2012 14:59 GMT
#61
OP, make a poll if it was better or worse.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
July 31 2012 15:00 GMT
#62
When I post this during beta, no one seem agreed with me. Sad

The following is just my opinion and I'm fully aware this is just beta. Even though the Arcade thing is an improvement, the 1.5 UI in other aspects is NOT an overall improvement.

I post 6 sets of screenshot comparisons below and show how 1.5 UI is still not better than 1.4.3. All upper pictures are from 1.5, and all bottom pictures are from 1.4.3.

------------------------
1 Comparison: the home screen:
http://imgur.com/a/KacLr

The home screen has been criticized most for not utilizing the empty space. As you can see from the screenshots, the 1.4.3 utilizes more space than 1.5.

---------------------------
2 Comparison: Quick Match:
http://imgur.com/a/jyRnp

The pictures of the race selection are ridiculously bad at representing the race. The pictures of three races look somehow like from a single race. People not familiar with the races may not even think Terran is human.

Most importantly, the new button style is inconsistent with the old UI elements. In the 1.5 screenshot, in the upper-right, buttons are the old 1.4.3. light blue buttons, but all the other buttons are the new 1.5 dark blue buttons. Anyone with a basic aesthetics will think the UI style in bottom screenshot more mature and harmonious.

----------------------------
3 Comparison: Versus AI:
http://imgur.com/a/3D7vV

Really? No preview window of mini-map?

----------------------------
4 Comparison: Game lobby:
http://imgur.com/a/LPseH

Look at the right side of the 1.5 screenshot, there is a scroll bar and no all the options can be shown. You need to scroll up and down to see all the options. While in the 1.4.3 screenshot, you can see all the options at one glance.

----------------------------
5 Comparison: Score screen
http://imgur.com/a/dGurv

In the 1.5 screenshot, the elements inside the score window are all the old light blue style, but all other things outside the score window are dark blue.

In the 1.4.3 screenshot, everything is just highly consistent and harmonious.

----------------------------
6 Comparison: Settings
http://imgur.com/a/gK3dU

Sorry but I have to say that dark blue buttons are just so ugly, especially in this screenshot.

----------------------------

People were not complaining about the UI style. The UI style was great. People were complaining about the layout of the UI and how the empty space is not utilized to provide some important information. I know aesthetics can be very subjective. People may not buy into what I said and I heard many people said the new UI style is better than the old one. However, everything I saw from the 1.5 beta is not great like they said.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 31 2012 15:00 GMT
#63
I think it was a good improvement for sure !
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 31 2012 15:01 GMT
#64
to be honest i don't know how they worked on this for so long on something so irrelevant and unnecessary.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
July 31 2012 15:07 GMT
#65
On August 01 2012 00:01 GreyKnight wrote:
to be honest i don't know how they worked on this for so long on something so irrelevant and unnecessary.


And dint notice that the transparency on drop down boxes is too high and overlaps with the text below. Ie. The graphic settings main selection drop down menu.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
July 31 2012 15:10 GMT
#66
Honestly, Team Liquid is a place where we care about the ladder. This patch is not for us. This patch is for the people who like SC2 for the custom games mainly and the old system was terrible for it. Not everything has to be about just the ladder/competitive side of the game.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 31 2012 15:11 GMT
#67
On August 01 2012 00:01 GreyKnight wrote:
to be honest i don't know how they worked on this for so long on something so irrelevant and unnecessary.



I believe a lot of the was put in for HotS support. Things like clans, and better community support, rather than the UI.
Cereal
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
July 31 2012 15:12 GMT
#68
Graphically the new interface looks like they just went into photoshop, made some rounded squares, and just went crazy with the bevel tool.

I prefer the old interface look but this one is alright, gets the job done.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Mazaire
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia217 Posts
July 31 2012 15:15 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 01 2012 00:00 larse wrote:
When I post this during beta, no one seem agreed with me. Sad

The following is just my opinion and I'm fully aware this is just beta. Even though the Arcade thing is an improvement, the 1.5 UI in other aspects is NOT an overall improvement.

I post 6 sets of screenshot comparisons below and show how 1.5 UI is still not better than 1.4.3. All upper pictures are from 1.5, and all bottom pictures are from 1.4.3.

------------------------
1 Comparison: the home screen:
http://imgur.com/a/KacLr

The home screen has been criticized most for not utilizing the empty space. As you can see from the screenshots, the 1.4.3 utilizes more space than 1.5.

---------------------------
2 Comparison: Quick Match:
http://imgur.com/a/jyRnp

The pictures of the race selection are ridiculously bad at representing the race. The pictures of three races look somehow like from a single race. People not familiar with the races may not even think Terran is human.

Most importantly, the new button style is inconsistent with the old UI elements. In the 1.5 screenshot, in the upper-right, buttons are the old 1.4.3. light blue buttons, but all the other buttons are the new 1.5 dark blue buttons. Anyone with a basic aesthetics will think the UI style in bottom screenshot more mature and harmonious.

----------------------------
3 Comparison: Versus AI:
http://imgur.com/a/3D7vV

Really? No preview window of mini-map?

----------------------------
4 Comparison: Game lobby:
http://imgur.com/a/LPseH

Look at the right side of the 1.5 screenshot, there is a scroll bar and no all the options can be shown. You need to scroll up and down to see all the options. While in the 1.4.3 screenshot, you can see all the options at one glance.

----------------------------
5 Comparison: Score screen
http://imgur.com/a/dGurv

In the 1.5 screenshot, the elements inside the score window are all the old light blue style, but all other things outside the score window are dark blue.

In the 1.4.3 screenshot, everything is just highly consistent and harmonious.

----------------------------
6 Comparison: Settings
http://imgur.com/a/gK3dU

Sorry but I have to say that dark blue buttons are just so ugly, especially in this screenshot.

----------------------------

People were not complaining about the UI style. The UI style was great. People were complaining about the layout of the UI and how the empty space is not utilized to provide some important information. I know aesthetics can be very subjective. People may not buy into what I said and I heard many people said the new UI style is better than the old one. However, everything I saw from the 1.5 beta is not great like they said.



I would like to point out that all those screen shots are irrelevant because 90% of the revamp was on the custom game side of things to breathe new life into custom map makers and casual players who didn't ladder nearly as much. They didn't tweak with the laddering system much at all.

Did you even bother to look at the new arcade button?
"No matter what event you go to there are so many koreans, like a swarm. Even if you beat three or four, there are like 10 others waiting." - Socke
conz
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom163 Posts
July 31 2012 15:15 GMT
#70
On July 31 2012 22:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 22:33 DrAbuse wrote:
On July 31 2012 21:39 Melty Butter wrote:
Did anyone else notice that it now takes 3 clicks to start queuing for a ladder 1v1, as opposed to 2 clicks before? Maybe it's a minor quibble, but- No, it's not, it's dumb and I don't like it.


Did anyone else notice that it takes Zerg only one click to produce a building, while you have to tell your Terran and Protoss worker to go back to mining after it finished? I dont like it, I dont like it at all!! BLIZZAAAAAAAARD

Zergs need to spread creep tumors and inject alltime



You kinda missed what he did there.
TheRealDude: you were lucky you scouted
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
July 31 2012 15:15 GMT
#71
There aren't hotkeys to navigate through the interface, right (unless I've been missing it for a long time)? Would have been nice to have.
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
July 31 2012 15:17 GMT
#72
It's not too bad, I agree with the comments about the quick match screen though. Pretty happy with everything they've done with the engine and my only real gripe with the UI is that they've removed the leagues overview section from your main profile page, leaving us with ugly rectangles and text.
In the Emperor we trust
Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
July 31 2012 15:17 GMT
#73
People hate change, i guess. I like it.
ROOT4ROOT <3
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
July 31 2012 15:18 GMT
#74
Played beta and its mostly fail !
Freelancer veteran
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 31 2012 15:19 GMT
#75
On August 01 2012 00:15 djcube wrote:
There aren't hotkeys to navigate through the interface, right (unless I've been missing it for a long time)? Would have been nice to have.

They were just added
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
July 31 2012 15:21 GMT
#76
Blizz really has no idea about priorities. They spend their time with pointless stuff when they could be spending time for an update to include automated tournies or other features that their previous games had.

Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
Emuking
Profile Joined June 2012
United States144 Posts
July 31 2012 15:27 GMT
#77
Chat no longer scrolls to the bottom of a chat window when a new message is added if a player has previously scrolled up in the chat window.

THANK GOD
When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breath, then you'll be successful.
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
July 31 2012 15:33 GMT
#78
I really wonder that the hell are they doing at the Blizzard headquarters. They have been hyping this patch for months, yet the majority of these changes are irrelevant. Does it really take so much effort to do what they did?
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:34:43
July 31 2012 15:34 GMT
#79
Also, tick player health bars match their colours in gameplay options. Nice visual improvement. Yellow player now has yellow HP bars. Your own bars are the same red though, but this'll help in 200 vs 200 .. maybe.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
July 31 2012 15:36 GMT
#80
On August 01 2012 00:33 Art.FeeL wrote:
I really wonder that the hell are they doing at the Blizzard headquarters. They have been hyping this patch for months, yet the majority of these changes are irrelevant. Does it really take so much effort to do what they did?


Really depends how many people are working on it. Given how all their starcraft people are either working on stuff for hots or lotv I doubt there are many to do a patch for wol. But then again they said they'd do 1.5 before beta so you never know.
But na with a modern sized development team on it this could have been out months ago (given how early the beta for it came out).
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