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[Interview] 2012 GSL S3 CodeS RO16 Group C - Page 6

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paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
July 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#101
You guys know that... Jinro is also Swedish... Right?
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
July 04 2012 16:55 GMT
#102
naniwa is infinitely better than jinro, if you guys cant grasp that. might as well say fruitdealer is still top 10, because he won GSL1

FACPALM
Jar Jar Binks
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
July 04 2012 16:56 GMT
#103
On July 05 2012 01:55 BlackGosu wrote:
naniwa is infinitely better than jinro, if you guys cant grasp that. might as well say fruitdealer is still top 10, because he won GSL1

FACPALM


What has that got to do with Jinros past achievements?
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 04 2012 16:57 GMT
#104
On July 05 2012 01:47 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:45 Aunvilgod wrote:
Naniwa is proud to be Swedish?

TL is one of the most international boards in the world and he starts with nationalism? He really steps into every mudhole he can find, doesn´t he?

Cause clearly, he was interview by the TL board members. He should have taken that into account. Nani so BM!


People seem determined to seize on absolutely anything and everything Naniwa says that could possibly be construed as offensive to somebody, somewhere.

Guys no one has yet pointed out that he said he wants to beat Nestea so he can't make any excuses. He implied Nestea has been making excuses about losing to him.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 04 2012 16:58 GMT
#105
On July 05 2012 01:55 BlackGosu wrote:
naniwa is infinitely better than jinro, if you guys cant grasp that. might as well say fruitdealer is still top 10, because he won GSL1

FACPALM

Nobody is saying naniwa isn't better than jinro, but he didn't ACHIEVE more. past achievements=/= current skill, obviously....
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
July 04 2012 16:59 GMT
#106
Naniwa fighting!!
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
July 04 2012 16:59 GMT
#107
On July 05 2012 01:45 Aunvilgod wrote:
Naniwa is proud to be Swedish?

TL is one of the most international boards in the world and he starts with nationalism? He really steps into every mudhole he can find, doesn´t he?


What's wrong with loving your country?
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
July 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#108
On July 05 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:07 RageBot wrote:
On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/

we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else


Not sure if trolling.

honestly the total lack of patriotism feels pretty superior at times when you see so much crazy shit caused by it abroad


He said ''not sure if trolling'' because he said ''that's what makes us better than everyone else'' is a very patriotic phrase.
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
July 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#109
Some people will call this BM, but I sure love all the drama, rivalry in SC2
Naniwa vs Nestea would be so epic. Crazy Epic.
Naniwa is probably the top foreigner and out done Jinro idra by miles. It is the same as to Flash is the "Most accomplished Bonjwa", even though Boxer's, Nada, Savior...etc have done crazy amount. It is still the common-known fact that Flash is above them...etc.
So no harm in what Naniwa said really, even it is cocky

E-sport needs more Idra giving MC the finger. It really hype up the match so much!
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
July 04 2012 17:07 GMT
#110
On July 05 2012 01:55 BlackGosu wrote:
naniwa is infinitely better than jinro, if you guys cant grasp that. might as well say fruitdealer is still top 10, because he won GSL1

FACPALM



Doesn't matter.

Jinro made Round of 4 twice--- regardless of whether or not NaNiwa is better than him, the fact is he wasn't at that time. Even if he is "better than he was now", that does not take away from Jinro's achievements in the GSL still trumping NaNiwa's currently.

Plus, NaNiwa never directly qualified for Code A/S--- he received seeds, and I'm pretty sure Jinro qualified through the preliminary system they had when he first played in the GSL during Season 3. The people in the Code A qualifiers are very good--- and even some of the best Code S caliber players have a hard time getting back into the GSL (CoCa, DRG for instance).

Without those seeds, it's not a given that NaNiwa would still be in Code S (perhaps he gets knocked out in prelims, or in the Code A stages), but it's also not a given that he wouldn't still be where he is at.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#111
Kinda surprised NaNi wasn't practicing with Squirtle and Bomber too - they usually seem to be his practice partners in these situations. Hopefully there isn't drama with his teammates.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 04 2012 17:13 GMT
#112
It would be interesting to have a translation of Korean netizen reaction to his win.
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
July 04 2012 17:16 GMT
#113
Seems about as insecure as a teenage girl.

Randomly bringing up a comparison with Jinros achievements just oozes bad confidence.
no
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 04 2012 17:16 GMT
#114
I think his achievements were harder to achieve because the game is more evolved but he shouldnt take away from jinro. Is like saying fruitdealer wasnt a GSL champion because things were "easier" back then, even though you could argue they werent for zerg because of the maps. Jinro made it to the RO4 twice until Naniwa does that Jinro stil has gotten further in the GSL.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 17:17 GMT
#115
On July 05 2012 02:16 Mylin wrote:
Seems about as insecure as a teenage girl.

Randomly bringing up a comparison with Jinros achievements just oozes bad confidence.


Thanks, armchair psychologist.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 17:18:00
July 04 2012 17:17 GMT
#116
On July 05 2012 00:29 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Parting is the only player who practised with me. I am extremely grateful to Parting and want to thank many people on the ladder.


Forever alone? :/ How come no one else practices with him ? :|


Maybe cuz he's BM? Someone should ask him
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 04 2012 17:18 GMT
#117
On July 05 2012 02:07 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:55 BlackGosu wrote:
naniwa is infinitely better than jinro, if you guys cant grasp that. might as well say fruitdealer is still top 10, because he won GSL1

FACPALM



Doesn't matter.

Jinro made Round of 4 twice--- regardless of whether or not NaNiwa is better than him, the fact is he wasn't at that time. Even if he is "better than he was now", that does not take away from Jinro's achievements in the GSL still trumping NaNiwa's currently.

Plus, NaNiwa never directly qualified for Code A/S--- he received seeds, and I'm pretty sure Jinro qualified through the preliminary system they had when he first played in the GSL during Season 3. The people in the Code A qualifiers are very good--- and even some of the best Code S caliber players have a hard time getting back into the GSL (CoCa, DRG for instance).

Without those seeds, it's not a given that NaNiwa would still be in Code S (perhaps he gets knocked out in prelims, or in the Code A stages), but it's also not a given that he wouldn't still be where he is at.


This whole debate seems pretty pointless to me. The game and GSL have change so much since Jinro's appearances in the GSL it's impossible to compare the two.

You could argue all day about who was more impressive. You can talk about how Jinro qualified through Code A. You can talk about how GSL was organized differently when Jinro played. You can argue Jinro played during a period where Terrans still had all sorts of crazy advantages, and the games were being played on shit maps.

To me, Jinro was a pioneer. He was a foreigner making a big splash in Korea and paving the way for other foreigners to get in via seedings (as Naniwa and Thorzain did). Naniwa is the second stage of that. Now that the game has stabilized somewhat (David Kim's patching might honestly show otherwise) and players are more consistent (no more bit-by-bits) he's doing incredible things now that the game's talent level has risen.

They don't need to be compared. They played in entirely different eras and their achievements mean different things due to when they played. It's like comparing NBA/ABA player point totals before and after 3-pointers were added to the game of basketball.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 17:21:17
July 04 2012 17:20 GMT
#118
On July 05 2012 02:16 zeratul_jf wrote:
I think his achievements were harder to achieve because the game is more evolved but he shouldnt take away from jinro. Is like saying fruitdealer wasnt a GSL champion because things were "easier" back then, even though you could argue they werent for zerg because of the maps. Jinro made it to the RO4 twice until Naniwa does that Jinro stil has gotten further in the GSL.


He isn't taking away from Jinro's achievements, he's just saying that the metagame was less developed back in the day and now that things have mostly stabilized, only the really good terrans can get far. As an example, Jinro got through one round using mech against a befuddled MC and we never really see that anymore
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
July 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#119
Don’t get where Naniwa gets off saying that his achievement is better than Jinro’s. 2 Ro4 >>>> 2 Ro8. Naniwa will always be a cocky ignorant kid.

howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
July 04 2012 17:29 GMT
#120
On July 05 2012 01:45 Aunvilgod wrote:
Naniwa is proud to be Swedish?

TL is one of the most international boards in the world and he starts with nationalism? He really steps into every mudhole he can find, doesn´t he?

What the hell are you talking about? Of all the things he said in the interview you had to get all up in arms with that? lol
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