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On July 05 2012 00:57 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 00:53 Dosey wrote:On July 05 2012 00:23 Vardant wrote: Only Parting practiced with Naniwa? That's kinda weird. Not weird if you consider his.... different.... personality. I mean the guy just basically insulted a fellow countryman and foreigner in his interview with absolutely no reason to... How did he insult Jinro? Everyone knows that what he said is true. While that is true it is totally uncalled for and the interviewer never mentioned , he just flapped it out.
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On July 05 2012 00:59 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 00:57 nam nam wrote:On July 05 2012 00:53 Dosey wrote:On July 05 2012 00:23 Vardant wrote: Only Parting practiced with Naniwa? That's kinda weird. Not weird if you consider his.... different.... personality. I mean the guy just basically insulted a fellow countryman and foreigner in his interview with absolutely no reason to... How did he insult Jinro? Everyone knows that what he said is true. If everyone knows it they why insult the guy in public? It was an unnecessary jab at someone and explains why many pros dislike the guy.
It wasn't an insult. What's so hard to understand about that?
On July 05 2012 01:00 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 00:57 nam nam wrote:On July 05 2012 00:53 Dosey wrote:On July 05 2012 00:23 Vardant wrote: Only Parting practiced with Naniwa? That's kinda weird. Not weird if you consider his.... different.... personality. I mean the guy just basically insulted a fellow countryman and foreigner in his interview with absolutely no reason to... How did he insult Jinro? Everyone knows that what he said is true. While that is true it is totally uncalled for and the interviewer never mentioned , he just flapped it out.
Yeah, god forbid pros answer with something more than a yes or a no... Do you have to look for drama to be happy? Take the answer for what it is.
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On July 05 2012 00:55 zezamer wrote: I'm starting to like Naniwa, wtf... and I'm starting to dislike him, haha.
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Just ask anyone about Fruit Dealer and they will say pretty much the same thing and that guy won the GSL. It's sad, in both cases, but that's just how it is.
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as a fan of Jinro it may look really insulting, but i think Jinro should understand. I mean he haven't got through the slump or improved pacely as the other foreigners/koreans as he should be
But oh well, Naniwa might say it under all the adrenaline he get from winning the last game
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On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/
we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else
Not sure if trolling.
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I think it would be meaningful if Nestea makes it in first place and faces me too. If I beat Nestea again this time, he won’t have any excuses.
make this happen! it will increase viewer count by a lot and i love juicy drama
i don't think it's possible though since DRG is beast
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I'm glad for Nani and I'll be rooting for him. The overall skill level is definitely higher now, but I still rate Jinros consecutive ro4 finishes higher than naniwas double ro8. If Nani get's to ro4 then they're tied.
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On July 05 2012 01:07 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/
we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else Not sure if trolling. honestly the total lack of patriotism feels pretty superior at times when you see so much crazy shit caused by it abroad
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On July 05 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 01:07 RageBot wrote:On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/
we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else Not sure if trolling. honestly the total lack of patriotism feels pretty superior at times when you see so much crazy shit caused by it abroad Thinking you're "superior" is racist/nationalistic, not just "patriotic", in my opinion.
And from what i've heard about anti-patriotism in Sweden, it seems like you guys took it way too far, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it forbidden to wear/show the Swedish flag, even during your national holiday? (not sure if it's illegal or just very frowned upon).
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Next patch I foresee a zerg nerf.
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On July 05 2012 00:44 BlindKill wrote: lollll, if you read Parting's OSL interview he is almost as arrogant as Naniwa. They must be bff Parting, the new SaSe?
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It's a socially accepted thing nowadays that if you are proud of your achievements and lucid enough to know that you're the best at something, you are a douche if you say it! Why?? Because all the mediocre (not "literally" mediocre, just everyone who isn't as good as you) people would feel bad from hearing it. So you don't want to hurts their poor feelings.
F*ck feelings, if you're the best at something and you know it there's no shame in clearly saying it! Fake modesty is just another shitty concept people try to hide behind stuffs like humility ... saying that one should be humble. It's not a lack of humility to say such things! It's not like he was taunting anyone or rubbing someone's face in what he's saying.
EDIT: all I say here is of course meant in a competitive environment like eSport is
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On July 05 2012 01:15 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 05 2012 01:07 RageBot wrote:On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/
we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else Not sure if trolling. honestly the total lack of patriotism feels pretty superior at times when you see so much crazy shit caused by it abroad Thinking you're "superior" is racist/nationalistic, not just "patriotic", in my opinion. And from what i've heard about anti-patriotism in Sweden, it seems like you guys took it way too far, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it forbidden to wear/show the Swedish flag, even during your national holiday? (not sure if it's illegal or just very frowned upon). Not forbidden. But certainly frowned upon by at least some of the older swedes.
I think we as a nation have gone to far in terms of political correctness, modesty and anti-invidualism.
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ro8 still ain't no ro4 naniwa!
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On July 05 2012 01:15 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 05 2012 01:07 RageBot wrote:On July 05 2012 00:31 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i dont like the "im proud to be swedish"-stuff :/
we swedes arent patriotic, thats what makes us better than everyone else Not sure if trolling. honestly the total lack of patriotism feels pretty superior at times when you see so much crazy shit caused by it abroad Thinking you're "superior" is racist/nationalistic, not just "patriotic", in my opinion. And from what i've heard about anti-patriotism in Sweden, it seems like you guys took it way too far, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it forbidden to wear/show the Swedish flag, even during your national holiday? (not sure if it's illegal or just very frowned upon). Didn't mean it like that, just meant that independant thinking is a good thing, and I don't think patriotism should affect it. Just think it's a superior ideology, it's got nothing to do about being Swedish of course.
...and I've no idea where you heard it was illegal to raise flags, that's just silly. Most people don't really care if they're there or not, but there's nothing wrong with doing it. Yes, some frown upon it, but generally people are pretty indifferent about it.
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On July 05 2012 01:26 Sif_ wrote: ro8 still ain't no ro4 naniwa!
That's a stupid arguement considering how young the game was back when Jinro made ro4 and how much people sucked. You think FruitDealer is good? He won GSL back in the days, but one must keep in mind that the opponents he beat were worse than masters level in NA right now. I'm aware that this is a speculation but people really sucked back then as the game was so young.
I love Jinro and I'm Swedish as well but Jinro reaching ro4 back then is less of an achievement than winning a weekly cup nowadays. People are simply so much better now and sucked so bad back then.
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It may be harder mechanically now to reach the Ro8 but I fail however to see what that has to do with the comparative difficulty of reaching the ro4 twice in a row back when Jinro did it, both times the players were at the complete edge of the competitive scene they were/are as far as it could go in their time.
For that reason I'd call it bullshit to try and claim that Jinros accomplishments were "easier". Also no one ever said he had to fake humility, you don't have to fake humility. I don't think anyone would give a shit too much if he'd said "I think this is my biggest achievement" or "The biggest foreign achievement". However he says "The fact that Jinro is no longer in code S is proof of that" talking about his achievement being greater. There's absolutely no reason to reference Jinro at all while expressing the sentiment that he thinks his achievement is the best.
Also it's strange to say something like that when he was seeded into code S and everytime Jinro was offered a seed to any GSL league he declined it because he thought he didn't deserve to get in like that.
Edit: Actually I forgot to mention but leveller who posted under me is correct , stuff can get lost in translation so it could be absolutely nothing.
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On July 05 2012 00:35 Elsid wrote: Really think his comments about Jinro are quite tactless, Naniwa really does say stupid shit all the time :/
agreed that statement had 0 style but lets not judge answers based on
korean questions, translated into english, answered by a swedish person in english, translated back to korean, then translated back to english again
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On July 05 2012 01:29 sd_andeh wrote:That's a stupid arguement considering how young the game was back when Jinro made ro4 and how much people sucked. You think FruitDealer is good? He won GSL back in the days, but one must keep in mind that the opponents he beat were worse than masters level in NA right now. I'm aware that this is a speculation but people really sucked back then as the game was so young. I love Jinro and I'm Swedish as well but Jinro reaching ro4 back then is less of an achievement than winning a weekly cup nowadays. People are simply so much better now and sucked so bad back then.
If the others sucked shouldn't have he sucked just as equally too?
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